Rival Watch

[Sutekh]

Looking at it now I'd say its any 2 from Exeter downwards along with Carlisle and Fleetwood.

Fleetwood are fighting hard but it looks like they have too much ground to make up, they likely need circa 2 points a game which isn't likely.

Worry for Port Vale, tough run in, loads of catch up games and three losses since Moore came in which they would have seen as an opportunity to get some points.

Charlton, no idea if I'm honest, on paper the best squad down there, but no wins still since November and the pressure will really be on the longer that goes on and when they play sides around them.

Cambridge, one to watch, third manager now this season and just lost Harris suddenly which will have caused disruption, next couple of games are Stevenage and Bolton, and have lost 4 in last 5.

I believe that Fleetwood, under any on their three incarnations (Fleetwood (1908-1976), Fleetwood Town (1977-1996) or Fleetwood Wanderers/Freeport/Town (1997-present), have never been relegated from any division in which they have played. Think they would be the only club in the top 4 divisions with that record.

[windermereROYAL]

Few games that could impact our position in the table on Tuesday. all the teams below us are playing.

[Sutekh]

Few games that could impact our position in the table on Tuesday. all the teams below us are playing.

Burton (home to Carlisle) and Shrewsbury (away at Lincoln) will both move above Reading if they get a point or more on Tuesday.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

Few games that could impact our position in the table on Tuesday. all the teams below us are playing.

Burton (home to Carlisle) and Shrewsbury (away at Lincoln) will both move above Reading if they get a point or more on Tuesday.

And Cambridge can with a point

[Stranded]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P34 Pts 20

[URZZZZ]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

[Stranded]

AMended

[Dirk Gently]

Soon be time for a "Magic Number 2024" thread...

[Mr Optimist]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

Carlisle are so far adrift it would probably be better if Carlisle win at Burton.

[Mr Optimist]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

Carlisle are so far adrift it would probably be better if Carlisle win at Burton.

[Hendo]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

Carlisle are so far adrift it would probably be better if Carlisle win at Burton.

Agree, would also break their 8 game losing streak ahead of Saturday. We all know what's going to happen if we rock up with Carlisle having lost 9 out of 9...

[Sutekh]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

I don't know where that table came from but it's a load of plop.

Reading are 16th and Burton are 18th, Carlisle have played 33.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table

[Stranded]

Can see Burton winning (though knowing our luck, Carlisle will get a confidence boosting win ahead of the weekend)

Charlton losing as will Shrewsbury and Cambridge, Vale & Fleetwood will draw - Cheltenham draw. So we will drop to 17th.


14 - Burton P34 Pts 41
15 - Exeter P35 Pts 40
16 - Wycombe P34 Pts 39
17 - Reading P35 Pts38
18 - Cambridge P34 Pts 38
19 - Shrewsbury P35 Pts 38
20 - Charlton P35 Pts 34
21 - Cheltenham P33 Pts 34
22 - Port Vale P33 Pts 32
23 - Fleetwood P35 Pts 27
24 - Carlisle P23 Pts 20

Carlisle have a few games in hand

I don't know where that table came from but it's a load of plop.

Reading are 16th and Burton are 18th, Carlisle have played 33.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table

Calm yourself down to a panic mate.

If you actually read the post rather than jumping on your high horse immediately, you would have been able to tell that:

a) Carlisle was a typo - a dumb one but clearly a typo
b) the table comes after my predictions for tomorrow, so is my predicted table - hence why all the teams due to play tomorrow have both played one extra game than today and have different points based on my prediction.

Hope that helps.

[Sutekh]

Carlisle have a few games in hand

I don't know where that table came from but it's a load of plop.

Reading are 16th and Burton are 18th, Carlisle have played 33.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table

Calm yourself down to a panic mate.

If you actually read the post rather than jumping on your high horse immediately, you would have been able to tell that:

a) Carlisle was a typo - a dumb one but clearly a typo
b) the table comes after my predictions for tomorrow, so is my predicted table - hence why all the teams due to play tomorrow have both played one extra game than today and have different points based on my prediction.

Hope that helps.

OK, I shall let you off this time

[Stranded]

I don't know where that table came from but it's a load of plop.

Reading are 16th and Burton are 18th, Carlisle have played 33.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table

Calm yourself down to a panic mate.

If you actually read the post rather than jumping on your high horse immediately, you would have been able to tell that:

a) Carlisle was a typo - a dumb one but clearly a typo
b) the table comes after my predictions for tomorrow, so is my predicted table - hence why all the teams due to play tomorrow have both played one extra game than today and have different points based on my prediction.

Hope that helps.

OK, I shall let you off this time

Most kind and much love

[Snowflake Royal]

Soon be time for a "Magic Number 2024" thread...

Oh god, where the same people keep getting it wrong week after week.

[WestYorksRoyal]

I'm still bewildered why we have 4 relegation spots in this division. I get it's how it's always been, but that's no reason to keep it. L2 gets an easy ride, 4 promoted and only 2 relegated.

If it was only 3 down, I'd be about 95% confident of survival by now. As it is, it's more like 70%. I know it's a poor league, but the team in 21st really won't be much poorer than half the league in my view.

[Stranded]

I'm still bewildered why we have 4 relegation spots in this division. I get it's how it's always been, but that's no reason to keep it. L2 gets an easy ride, 4 promoted and only 2 relegated.

If it was only 3 down, I'd be about 95% confident of survival by now. As it is, it's more like 70%. I know it's a poor league, but the team in 21st really won't be much poorer than half the league in my view.

It's a hangover of the addition of the 4th division in 1958/59 season.

Prior to that, 2 sides from D3N and 2 from D3S had to apply for re-election if they finished 23rd and 24th. The decision was made to turn these directly into relegation spots - so that clubs below the 3rd tier still had the same available amount of spots available to take.

It has just hung around - the best thing to have done would have been to re-jig the relegation places once automatic relegation from the league became a thing in the 80s and even more so when the 2nd spot was added.

So yeah, thats why its there but I can't imagine teams likely to be in the bottom tier will ever vote for it as it drops their chances of promotion by 25% and also keeps the division more interesting for long term residents as they get 6 new opponents each season.

[Stranded]

Few games that could impact our position in the table on Tuesday. all the teams below us are playing.

Worth noting that by the time we play Wycombe - Charlton and Cheltenham will have played 3 games to our 1 - so we will actually have a game in hand over Charlton.

They also play each other in that run, so someone is guaranteed to drop points.

[East Grinstead Royal]

I'm still bewildered why we have 4 relegation spots in this division. I get it's how it's always been, but that's no reason to keep it. L2 gets an easy ride, 4 promoted and only 2 relegated.

If it was only 3 down, I'd be about 95% confident of survival by now. As it is, it's more like 70%. I know it's a poor league, but the team in 21st really won't be much poorer than half the league in my view.

It's a hangover of the addition of the 4th division in 1958/59 season.

Prior to that, 2 sides from D3N and 2 from D3S had to apply for re-election if they finished 23rd and 24th. The decision was made to turn these directly into relegation spots - so that clubs below the 3rd tier still had the same available amount of spots available to take.

It has just hung around - the best thing to have done would have been to re-jig the relegation places once automatic relegation from the league became a thing in the 80s and even more so when the 2nd spot was added.

So yeah, thats why its there but I can't imagine teams likely to be in the bottom tier will ever vote for it as it drops their chances of promotion by 25% and also keeps the division more interesting for long term residents as they get 6 new opponents each season.

The time to have changed the 4 up / 4 down regime would have been when the 2 up / 2 down rules between D1 / D2 / D3 were changed - was that in the late ‘70s? If the 4th tier wanted to retain the “interesting” element, they could use the NL’s format for the play-offs, which would mean 8th place gets into the P/O.