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by Royal Rother » 24 Sep 2006 11:32

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alad That is football, if someone is stupid enough to wear a United shirt in the Reading stand then they're inciting trouble and asking for it.


Absolutely right.
So if he was getting beaten in front of your children you think that was the right action to undertake ? There should be no place for violence of any kind at football and people who take part in it should be banned. If the guy was stupid enough to wear the shirt then he should just have been thrown out of the ground, it did not need any violence and if you think that was the right course of action then I feel very sorry for you.


Absolutely right.

ANY attempt at justification for violence at a sporting event because of allegiances deserves and receives the unanimous contempt of sane minded individuals.

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by Irvinchangeyaname » 24 Sep 2006 11:54

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alad That is football, if someone is stupid enough to wear a United shirt in the Reading stand then they're inciting trouble and asking for it.


Absolutely right.

I'm just glad all the Arsenal fans in the East stand didn't have the same mentality when there were 20 or so Reading shirts in their end last year.

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by firstdivision » 24 Sep 2006 11:59

Whew lucky it didnt all kick off at Didcot town then, where I was, there were didcot supporters around me, some wearing Didcot Town football shirts.

The funny thing is that we all got on ok? Now thats real football.

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by JimmytheJim » 24 Sep 2006 12:02

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alad That is football, if someone is stupid enough to wear a United shirt in the Reading stand then they're inciting trouble and asking for it.


Absolutely right.


I've taken the liberty of ordering a penis enlarger for each of you, so hopefully you won't need to try and compensate for that woodworm anymore.

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by Maguire » 24 Sep 2006 12:14

It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


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by Row Z Royal » 24 Sep 2006 12:18

Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?

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by PlasticRoyale » 24 Sep 2006 12:21

I was stood right next to the kid in Man Utd away top, when it started getting nasty. Obviously incredily naive of him to be there but 4fs he was one kid on his own. He looked absolutely terrified..

Shower of oxf*rd's who started on him

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by readingfc_4_life_and_beyo » 24 Sep 2006 12:23

The funny thing is, someone (I forget who) got laughed at for saying, in effect, Reading fans won't have Utd fans in the home ends...

Fair enough, it's not right that 15 (possibly over-exaggerated) blokes started on this Utd fan. But as Mags said, shouldn't have been stupid enough to wear the shirt in the home ends anyway.

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by Maguire » 24 Sep 2006 12:23

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Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?


What's the point in indulging in moral hand-wringing over something that has happened at grounds up and down the country for years and years?

Yes in an ideal world we'd all sit together, buy each other drinks, and all the rest of it but 99.99% of people know that football isn't like that and wearing a Utd shirt in the East Stand is just pure idiocy.


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by Row Z Royal » 24 Sep 2006 12:28

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Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?


What's the point in indulging in moral hand-wringing over something that has happened at grounds up and down the country for years and years?

Yes in an ideal world we'd all sit together, buy each other drinks, and all the rest of it but 99.99% of people know that football isn't like that and wearing a Utd shirt in the East Stand is just pure idiocy.


Had I been in the vicinity a simple volley of abuse - not even particularly severe - would have sufficed. He's a knob, but doesn't deserve to get battered for it.

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by RobRoyal » 24 Sep 2006 12:45

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Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?


What's the point in indulging in moral hand-wringing over something that has happened at grounds up and down the country for years and years?

Yes in an ideal world we'd all sit together, buy each other drinks, and all the rest of it but 99.99% of people know that football isn't like that and wearing a Utd shirt in the East Stand is just pure idiocy.


Sorry, you think wearing an away shirt in the home end is a MORAL issue? :lol:

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by Bath Hoops » 24 Sep 2006 12:45

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Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?


What's the point in indulging in moral hand-wringing over something that has happened at grounds up and down the country for years and years?

Yes in an ideal world we'd all sit together, buy each other drinks, and all the rest of it but 99.99% of people know that football isn't like that and wearing a Utd shirt in the East Stand is just pure idiocy.
Its only by trying to change that mentality that has allowed us to get rid of alot of the trouble you use to get at football, maybe it is daft to hope that we can be like rugby and all fans share the same area. But I certainly don't think there was any case for knocking the hell out of a guy who was just stupid to wear that top. Escort him to the stewards, throw him out but if it makes the 15 guys feel better that they knocked hell out of one teenager then they are just as bad as the Man U fans who tried the same leaving the ground. There is no place for this in football and saying that its ok because its always been like that doesnt make it right. I want an environment where I can take my child to football and enjoy the game, I don't think thats too much to ask for and I hope people who continue with violence of any kind at games get bans including the idiots who to my mind were just as stupid as the guy for wearing the top.

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by Forbury Lion » 24 Sep 2006 13:18

The 17 Bus I agree with him being feckin stupid, and asking for trouble, does not make it right tho.

Also sounds like the stewarding could have beena little bit better.
Maybe the stewards at the turnstiles should have spotted the lad entering the home end in a Utd shirt and nipped it in the bud there and then.


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by Sharpy » 24 Sep 2006 13:24

moo The stewards are to blame for letting someone with a United shirt into the East Stand, if one of us had gone into the away section with a Reading away shirt on then I would expect the same treatment.


agreed. typical of jobsworth stewards.

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by higher » 24 Sep 2006 13:27

Definately scope for a sticky "steward watch" around these parts Graham :wink:

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by Maguire » 24 Sep 2006 13:31

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Maguire It's hard to have sympathy for anybody thick enough to go in the home end in a Utd shirt to be honest.


Why should it matter?


What's the point in indulging in moral hand-wringing over something that has happened at grounds up and down the country for years and years?

Yes in an ideal world we'd all sit together, buy each other drinks, and all the rest of it but 99.99% of people know that football isn't like that and wearing a Utd shirt in the East Stand is just pure idiocy.


Sorry, you think wearing an away shirt in the home end is a MORAL issue? :lol:


I don't suppose there's any chance I was talking about the violence was there?

LOL @ you.

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by Sharpy » 24 Sep 2006 13:32

Mags was in a lil row at his local too in the evening then eh? :wink:

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by Maguire » 24 Sep 2006 13:33

Bath Hoops saying that its ok because its always been like that doesnt make it right


I didn't say it was ok, or right, I just said that it was the way that it was.

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by Millsy » 24 Sep 2006 13:37

Disgraceful behaviour by Reading 'fans' and I hope they're banned.

Obviously f**king stupid of the kid and perhaps the poor lad will learn.

It has to be remembered home and away section are there for a REASON. Home is for home fans, Away is for away fans. Simple.

If your end is sold out don't go to the opposition section because it's not for you!

What detracts slightly from my sympathy for the lad is that there are many true lifelong diehard Reading fans like myself who were unable to get a ticket for one fo the biggest matches in our history so far, and yet an away 'fan' sneaks in AND is arrogant and disrespectful enough to rub his allegiance in all our faces.

Ok, if you're going to do it fine. I went to the away end for the Preston match with my PNE mates but I didn't wear Reading colours out of respect, and was very complimentary about Preston the whole way through, even claping their goals, and of course not cheering ours out loud. And I was definitely not depriving a Preston fan of one of the most momentous games of their history.

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by Big Ern » 24 Sep 2006 13:41

alad That is football, if someone is stupid enough to wear a United shirt in the Reading stand then they're inciting trouble and asking for it.


Agree. Although the punishment was harsh for the crime, I knew at the age of 17 not to wear awau shirts in a home stand. The kid was stupid, but it is dissapointing that someof our so called fans decided to deal with it in their own uneducated way.

It is also worth questioning why the stewards allowed this kid into he East Stand wearing a United shirt.

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