Seol

[Dirk Gently]

Just for information, the Manchester Evening News gives Wes Brown 5 out of 10, with the comment :

5 Brown: Had a real struggle on his hands containing Seol with the Korean having the ascendancy in their personal duel

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1000/1000557_reading_v_united_player_ratings.html

[Fife]

The reason for the booing is to get to him and wind him up so he performs better in the future and has a point to prove.

Do you have a job? If so, please tell us where so we can organize a few thousand people to come to your office and boo and jeer you as you are doing it. By your logic that would make you work better and harder, so I'm sure your boss would be delighted.

We pay his wages I feel I have the right to criticise his effort and since I can't go up and speak to him about his poor effort I show my opinion by booing him.

[loyal1]

seol was so bad last night i was calling for hunt to come to add some fizz.
full credit for hunt because no one would have said that at start of season. we are a team or workers not slackers

[AthleticoSpizz]

The reason for the booing is to get to him and wind him up so he performs better in the future and has a point to prove.

Do you have a job? If so, please tell us where so we can organize a few thousand people to come to your office and boo and jeer you as you are doing it. By your logic that would make you work better and harder, so I'm sure your boss would be delighted.

We pay his wages I feel I have the right to criticise his effort and since I can't go up and speak to him about his poor effort I show my opinion by booing him.

ladies and gentlemen I give you.......Keith Jones No1 Fan


as long as we have our sacrificial player...we will be ok


Seol 6/10 saw worse in a Reading shirt last night..........but hey..... that wouldn't be following the sheep (with one or two worthy exceptions)

[Finchley Royal]

The reason for the booing is to get to him and wind him up so he performs better in the future and has a point to prove.

Do you have a job? If so, please tell us where so we can organize a few thousand people to come to your office and boo and jeer you as you are doing it. By your logic that would make you work better and harder, so I'm sure your boss would be delighted.

We pay his wages I feel I have the right to criticise his effort and since I can't go up and speak to him about his poor effort I show my opinion by booing him.

So what if you have the "right" to boo him. It doesn't mean that it's the sensible thing to do. You're booing someone who was crucial to our good start to the season - in particular the wins against Boro, Sheff U and West Ham (a). Without that good start, the season would look very different.

For whatever reason, he hasn't played well for a while now but I don't think that booing him is a fair reflection of what he's contributed to the team this season. Nor is it likely to result in improved performances.

[URZZ]

Seol is such a talented player, just lacks interest and is weak in tackle. At the start of the season I must admit I thought to myself, "He's a fcuking good buy". I still stand by what I said too and as I said he is an extremely talented player with a good left and a good right foot but he needs to pick up form again before it's too late, haven't seen him do anything good in quite a while.

[knobby_1871]

I think anyone who was there last night saw that Seol's performance was not that expected by a Reading Player "these days".

He exasperates many by his style. Since October? He does not get stuck in, he stands off his man, he allows people too much room. He does not get back to help out, is weak in the tackle and often switches off allowing his man to get away from him in dangerous areas, therefore he is not in the team for his Defending ability. When attacking, on numerous occasions, instead of bursting into the space created on the flanks to then use his undoubted crossing ability, he cuts back, and stands still, allowing any advantage we had for a quick break to dissapear. Too often his touch lets him down and the ball rolls harmlessly into touch. When shorey/murts has the ball, they are expecting him to run into the forward space, and yet he insists on standing directly in their line of passage and causing the whole thing to box up. Invariably he receives the ball, goes square and loses the ball weakly.

Given the above, my question.....As he doesn't have the defensive attributes of a Gunnarson/Harps/Sids etc, or the attacking guile/flair of an Little/Oster/ why is he in the team? What does he actually offer Reading Football club, other than access to the Asian market?

At the moment I would suggest very little. He came with a bang, lit us up for a few weeks, since then he has been the only player in the squad IMO, who has beleived his own hype and who's performance level has dropped accordingly.

My Message to Seol would be " Buck your ideas up son, if you want to be part of this set up the other side of next summer, we need to see, commitment, passion and a desire to work, not only for your fellow teamates but for the 22000 that pay to watch you every other week, and for the millions at home who idolise you. Wallowing in self pity for being left out of the first team will not win your place back.....Earn it"

Reading Football club has no room for makeweights.

at last some brains and sense to this thread bbbbbboooooooooooooooooo

[rg6royal]

looked so classy when he first came to the club at the start of the season but have jsut lost confidence and glen little is far too good for him.

[AthleticoSpizz]

maybe look for the positives for a change.


Seol is getting little more than cameo appearances at the moment, he has a lumpy style of play, but without the continuity, he can (like Sodje) only provide a snapshot of his credentials each game (everybody focuses on the errors).

Coppell sees him on a daily basis........if he picks him, it is because considers his effort worthy of a team place.


Been here before.......Keith Jones , John Salako (when we lost a few on the bounce), James Harper.....not so long back


The transfer window closed weeks ago, Sir Steve did not loan nor sell Seol, Sam nor John Halls.................thats good enough for me.


Pay your money ..have your opinion...but until we perform like West Ham or Leeds...........keep the negative ones to yourself.

[URZZ]

looked so classy when he first came to the club at the start of the season but have jsut lost confidence and glen little is far too good for him.

Don't agree totally. It's not a matter of confidence, it's a matter of want and passion... he doesn't show any commitment in tackles (Does he make any to begin with?)... He doesn't track back, doesn't defend... He has confidence, he just lacks a little passion and commitment, I think those two words sum it up.

As I said earlier, good player, very talented... just needs a little more commitment, and a little more pride in the badge on his shirt.

[rollsy]

West Ham Utd 0 Reading 1

that goal as great as it was does not make up for being lazy and crap the rest of the time. even if he is not playing in the first team all the time which i assume is what he wants, he needs to earn it, and playing like thatg is never going to do it.

[AthleticoSpizz]

West Ham Utd 0 Reading 1

that goal as great as it was does not make up for being lazy and crap the rest of the time. even if he is not playing in the first team all the time which i assume is what he wants, he needs to earn it, and playing like thatg is never going to do it.

playing like what? 6/10 last night.


Lita is lazy...remember?

[MC ROYAL]

Bloody hell, it's like the Lita hating all over again. Bad attitude, should leave the club, etc. FFS people, give him a chance.

BTW, I thought Seol was much better than several other players, like Sidwell and Doyle.

[martin fife]

No Reading player deserves to be booed by us, the Club's supporters, I could not believe what I heard last night. Whatever opinion we have of Seol, we should stick by him. By all means tell him when he's playing like a twat, but he should walk off to a round of applause...every time.
Anyway, I think he is as good a squad player as you can get for the money and better than a lot.

[AthleticoSpizz]

BTW, I thought Seol was better than Sidwell and Doyle.

but....we are not allowed to say that here are we?

[jumpers for goalposts]

No Reading player deserves to be booed by us, the Club's supporters, I could not believe what I heard last night. Whatever opinion we have of Seol, we should stick by him. By all means tell him when he's playing like a twat, but he should walk off to a round of applause...every time.
Anyway, I think he is as good a squad player as you can get for the money and better than a lot.

That's absolute rubbish, the fans have every right to boo a player if they feel he isn't putting in the effort. After all, they are the ones stumping up 30 odd quid a ticket. I will admit that booing is sometimes over used. Andy Hughes copped a fair bit in his time, which was always unjust in my book, as his errors were down to poor ability, but you could never fault the guy's commitment. When someone who has as much talent as Seol just can't be arsed, not chasing balls and pulling out of tackles then he's fair game. Refusing to shake Coppell's hand was also an act of pathetic petulance and undermines all that our squad stands for.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Ivar got booed a few times in his early days....never did him no harm

[Millsy]

I used to boo.

Then I detested it.

Then I did it again.

In truth it's a tough call.

If a player is clearly not bothering then it's fair enough to boo him: we are paying his wages and for a player not to bother even trying to perform is out of order. He'll deserve it and it might make him playe better.

Then again if a player (eg Hughes) is trying his hardest yet just so happens not to be gifted it's unforgivable to boo and it will achieve nothing. It won't be fair because he's trying hard enough, and it won't make him try harder as he can't help being mediocre.

I didn't watch the match but if Seol was truly just very lazy then whilst I wouldn't boo myself, I wouldn't condemn the odd boo.

I always condemn the idiots who see it fit to boo anyone who has a bad game though.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Whilst there are 11 opposition players , a referee and two linesmen on the turf....there is NEVER any justification to boo your own.



Coppell puts them on the pitch...Coppell decides when they exit the field....think about it

[fester_royal_blue]

im not seols greatest fan by a long shot, i saw him a while back when with wolves and watched him a few times with wolves and wondered if he was worth the money we payed.
he is a very skillfull and talented player, that i cannot take away from the guy. but he is lazy and is the last one to put the team first which is the way reading are.
but besides my personal opinions of a player i cant believe there are 'fans' who booed him. you pay to watch a game, not abuse a person..you pay car tax, does that mean you can drive how you like?

i supported bas savage in a hooped shirt, i'll support seol too