by higher » 10 Apr 2007 10:22
by papereyes » 10 Apr 2007 10:26
by M4 Junction 11 » 10 Apr 2007 12:28
by Row Z Royal » 10 Apr 2007 13:00
M4 Junction 11 If there was any risk of Europe I'm sure something could be arranged in the last few games to ensure we didn't enter through the Fair play system.
by Rawlie19 » 10 Apr 2007 13:05
by Z-Head » 10 Apr 2007 13:12
Rawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
by Rawlie19 » 10 Apr 2007 13:16
Z-HeadRawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
Im sure 20 million has a big part to play in English football for fast flowing football.
by Z-Head » 10 Apr 2007 13:22
Rawlie19Z-HeadRawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
Im sure 20 million has a big part to play in English football for fast flowing football.
What?
Anyway, 2000/2001 season Ipswich finished 5th in the Prem and qualified for the Uefa cup. 2001/2002 they finished 18th in the Prem and were relegated, however, they finished top of the Fair Play league in the Uefa Cup and were rewarded with a spot in the competition. Thus they played Uefa Cup football whilst in the Championship.
by Rawlie19 » 10 Apr 2007 13:25
Z-HeadRawlie19Z-HeadRawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
Im sure 20 million has a big part to play in English football for fast flowing football.
What?
Anyway, 2000/2001 season Ipswich finished 5th in the Prem and qualified for the Uefa cup. 2001/2002 they finished 18th in the Prem and were relegated, however, they finished top of the Fair Play league in the Uefa Cup and were rewarded with a spot in the competition. Thus they played Uefa Cup football whilst in the Championship.
Sorry let me expand on my view.
The premership is watched World wide far greater than any other league. In bookies pubs home telivision alike. Most countrys get to vew every game every week! (the english will pay for little of there own)
So, to create fast flowing football the prise for winning the fair play league must be good to stop it being sh1t like Italy. Just a thought of mine! Money talks!
by Z-Head » 10 Apr 2007 13:38
Rawlie19Z-HeadRawlie19Z-HeadRawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
Im sure 20 million has a big part to play in English football for fast flowing football.
What?
Anyway, 2000/2001 season Ipswich finished 5th in the Prem and qualified for the Uefa cup. 2001/2002 they finished 18th in the Prem and were relegated, however, they finished top of the Fair Play league in the Uefa Cup and were rewarded with a spot in the competition. Thus they played Uefa Cup football whilst in the Championship.
Sorry let me expand on my view.
The premership is watched World wide far greater than any other league. In bookies pubs home telivision alike. Most countrys get to vew every game every week! (the english will pay for little of there own)
So, to create fast flowing football the prise for winning the fair play league must be good to stop it being sh1t like Italy. Just a thought of mine! Money talks!
by papereyes » 10 Apr 2007 13:43
Rawlie19Z-HeadRawlie19 Am i totally missing something here? I thought that the 'fair play' entry into Europe was from fair play IN Europe? As Ipswich managed. The year they entered through the fair play league it was the season after they had already been in the Uefa Cup through finishing high enough in the league to qualify. Not sure that Uefa could care less who finishes top of their domestic fair play league.
Somebody point me in the right direction if I'm wrong.
Im sure 20 million has a big part to play in English football for fast flowing football.
What?
Anyway, 2000/2001 season Ipswich finished 5th in the Prem and qualified for the Uefa cup. 2001/2002 they finished 18th in the Prem and were relegated, however, they finished top of the Fair Play league in the Uefa Cup and were rewarded with a spot in the competition. Thus they played Uefa Cup football whilst in the Championship.
by JC » 11 Apr 2007 10:02
by papereyes » 11 Apr 2007 11:04
JC It is all academic anyway. In the strange Premier League idea of fair play we were 8th at the last count
by Berthwaite » 11 Apr 2007 11:20
papereyesJC It is all academic anyway. In the strange Premier League idea of fair play we were 8th at the last count
http://www.premierleague.com/public/dow ... Feb_07.pdf
6th by the end of Feb. Will try to find an updated list.
Premier League The fair play conduct is assessed by the appointed UEFA match delegate.
Following the game he has to complete a Fair Play assessment form in
consultation with the referee and the referee observer.
On the assessment form are six criteria:
Red and yellow cards: max 10 points
Deduction from a maximum of 10 points: yellow card = 1 point, red card =
3 points. Two times yellow equals red, but yellow + direct red = 4
points deduction. The total of this aspect may become negative.
Positive play: minimum 1 point, maximum 10 points
Positive aspects: attacking tactics, acceleration of the game, efforts
to gain time, and continued pursuit of goals. Negative aspects:
deceleration of the game, time-wasting, tactics based on foul-play,
play-acting, etc. In general terms positive play correlates with the
number of goal-scoring chances created and the number of goals scored.
Respect of the opponent: minimum 1 point, maximum 5 points
Assessment should be based on positive attitudes (e.g. helping an
injured opponent) rather than infringements. Double counting against the
item "red and yellow cards" should be avoided. Blameless behaviour, but
without any particularly positive attitude, should be assessed with a
mark 4 rather than 5.
Respect of the referee: minimum 1 point, maximum 5 points
A positive attitude towards the referee (and assistant referees),
including the acceptance of doubtful decisions without protest, should
be rewarded. Double counting against the item "red and yellow cards"
should be avoided. Normal behaviour, but without any particularly
positive attitude, should be assessed with a mark 4 rather than 5.
Behaviour of team officials: minimum 1 point, maximum 5 points
Positive and negative aspects of the behaviour of team officials should
be assessed. E.g. whether they calm or provoke angry players or fans,
how they accept the referee's decisions, etc. Co-operation with the
media should also be considered as a factor. Blameless behaviour, but
without any particularly positive attitude, should be assessed with a
mark 4 rather than 5.
Behaviour of the crowd: minimum 1 point, maximum 5 points
Encouragement of teams by shouting, singing, etc. may have a positive
influence on the atmosphere. The spectators are, however, expected to
respect the opposing team and the referee. The should appreciate the
performance of the opposition even if they emerge as the winners. The
must in no way intimidate or frighten the opposing team, the referee, or
opposing supporters. This item is applicable only if a substantial
number of fans of the team concerned are present.
Overall assessment: Add all points of the individual components,
dividing this total by the maximum number of points, and multiplying the
result by 10. The maximum number of points per game generally equals 40.
If, however, the team is being supported by a negligible amount of fans,
the maximum is 35. The general assessment should be calculated to three
decimal points and not rounded up.
by When Hicks went up... » 11 Apr 2007 11:51
Stupid Fair Play (unters Behaviour of the crowd: minimum 1 point, maximum 5 points
Encouragement of teams by shouting, singing, etc. may have a positive
influence on the atmosphere. The spectators are, however, expected to
respect the opposing team and the referee. The should appreciate the
performance of the opposition even if they emerge as the winners. The
must in no way intimidate or frighten the opposing team, the referee, or
opposing supporters. This item is applicable only if a substantial
number of fans of the team concerned are present.
by willz_royal » 11 Apr 2007 11:52
by brendywendy » 11 Apr 2007 11:59
willz_royal so, can someone just clear all this europe or not thing?
will we get in or not?
by biscuitsrus » 11 Apr 2007 12:18
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