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by Fezza » 17 May 2007 06:02

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Royal Jelly Sorry to get technical here, but its incorrect to say that the English owned parts of france, or (as some would have you beleive) that the English Monarch has a claim to the french thrown, as it was actually the Normans who invaded and took over England.

If anything the current British head of state come from a line of monarchs who can tenuously be traced back to being French (with a large helping of German recently), so we're still be run by France (sorry spacey).


I've run out of essays to fail, so I'll mark your work instead.

The English/British monarchs claimed the French throne from the 14th century, and only dropped the claim in the reign of George III (when it was a little embarrassing because we were sheltering the exiled French "king", Louis XVII. The claim has nothing to do with the Norman conquest; rather, it depended on differing interpretations of the French laws of succession (although Edward III was really just looking for a fight, anyway). And the last "Frenchman" to take the English throne was Henry II, in the 12th century; just how long to does your family have to live here to be naturalised?! (We're straying into Daily Mail territory again!)


surely by the point the English Monarchs claimed the throne the whole ruling class was French anyway, and most of them spoke the language.

Either way, can't you just go along with it to upset Spacey, as he's clearly Raci.... erm, I mean xenophobic.


No he can't because you were clearly wrong in the first place. Moron.


snigger, snigger......

I think that worked well


My mistake - go to the last page to see who the new signing is (still don't know, at the time of writing this!) to see the thread descend into another episode of "Spacey vs the French". Still.... here's my 2 penny's worth: the Normans weren't actually French they were from Scandinavian background who had colonised northern France. As we British are largely Scandinavian by background too they were probably racially closer to the rest of England than to the French anyway.


So to add my bit...

William had a stronger claim to the British throne than Harold ever did. The Normans were indeed from Scandinavia and like the Saxons before them were pushing westward to escape the fiercer clans coming out of the Steppes (spelling!).

Needless to say most Britain’s contain a far higher quantity of Danish blood than either Norman or Saxon, as a couple of century’s after the Norman invasion we were damn nearly conquered by the Danes (see Alfred the Great for details on amazing resistance, gave up the whole country bar Wessex)!

However, a question for Spacey;

As the French all but wiped out their own aristocracy and royal family doesn’t that mean that our blood ties to it are gone and we no longer have a claim or that it is ours and there are just a bunch of filthy cheese eating surrender monkey peasants squatting on it?


Glad we signed this Cisse bloke all the same!

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by bobby m's syrup » 17 May 2007 07:02

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(they) are just a bunch of filthy cheese eating surrender monkey peasants squatting on it?



With a higher standard of living, infinitely better social and health-care provision, better climate, better food,(including cheese), better wine, better road network, better public transport, better train network and a better national football team. :shock:

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by Hoop Blah » 17 May 2007 09:35

Interesting to read in the Post that Coppell has only seen the lad play on the video's and this is another example of McDermot and Hammond really doing the ground work.

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by brendywendy » 17 May 2007 09:47

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(they) are just a bunch of filthy cheese eating surrender monkey peasants squatting on it?



With a higher standard of living, infinitely better social and health-care provision, better climate, better food,(including cheese), better wine, better road network, better public transport, better train network and a better national football team. :shock:



dont really like french wine

its over priced and pretentious
i wouldnt swap outr national team with theirs for all the tea in china
ill take a nice block of mature cheddar, red leicetser, wensleydale, caerphilly, anyday, poncy french cheese sucks cock, most of it stinks, and looks like poo
have you been to france? im not sure how a better standard of living is measured, but france is a pretty run down and shabby country when i have been there, and they strike at the drop of a hat.
their better health and social care is currently bankrupting the country, causing mass unemployment and is the exact reason that the french voted for the right wing sarcosi

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by Huntley & Palmer » 17 May 2007 09:53

Hoop Blah Interesting to read in the Post that Coppell has only seen the lad play on the video's and this is another example of McDermot and Hammond really doing the ground work.


As far as I was aware, Coppell has no hand in any transfers


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by Bowman's Quiver » 17 May 2007 10:24

[quoteWilliam had a stronger claim to the British throne than Harold ever did. The Normans were indeed from Scandinavia and like the Saxons before them were pushing westward to escape the fiercer clans coming out of the Steppes (spelling!).

Needless to say most Britain’s contain a far higher quantity of Danish blood than either Norman or Saxon, as a couple of century’s after the Norman invasion we were damn nearly conquered by the Danes (see Alfred the Great for details on amazing resistance, gave up the whole country bar Wessex)! [/quote]

If I might add my tuppence ha'penny to one of the most off-track threads I've ever seen on HBA?

Alfred the Great's heroics were nearly two hundred years before the Norman Invasion and not a couple of centuries after it.

West Saxons
Alfred the Great (871 - 899)
Edward the Elder (899 - 924)
Ælfweard (924), King of Wessex only.
Athelstan (924 - 939)
Edmund I (939 - 946)
Edred (946 - 955)
Edwy the Fair (955 - 959)
Edgar the Peaceable (959 - 975)
St Edward the Martyr (975 - 978)
Ethelred the Unready (978 - 1013, 1014 - 1016)
Edmund Ironside (1016)

Danish Kings
Sweyn Forkbeard (1013 - 1014)
Canute the Great (1016 - 1035)
Harold Harefoot (1035 - 1040)
Harthacanute (1040 - 1042)

West Saxon Restoration
St Edward the Confessor (1042 - 1066)
Harold Godwinson (1066)
Edgar Atheling (1066)

Normans
In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy invaded England. He defeated King Harold II and became King.

William the Conqueror (1066 - 1087)
William II (1087 - 1100)
Henry I (1100 - 1135) (buried at Reading Abbey!)
Stephen (1135 - 1154)

Plantagenets

Empress Matilda (1141)
Henry II (1154-1189)
Richard I, the Lionheart (1189-1199)
John (1199-1216)
Henry III (1216-1272)
Edward I (1272-1307)
Edward II (1307-1327) (deposed, died 1327)
Edward III (1327-1377)
Richard II (1377-1399) (deposed, died 1400)

Lancastrians
Henry IV (1399-1413)
Henry V (1413-1422)
Henry VI (1422-1461 and 1470-1471)

Yorkists
Edward IV (1461-1470 and 1471-1483)
Edward V (uncrowned) (1483) (deposed 1483, most likely assassinated)
Richard III (1483-1485)

HTH

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by Behindu » 17 May 2007 10:28

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Hoop Blah Interesting to read in the Post that Coppell has only seen the lad play on the video's and this is another example of McDermot and Hammond really doing the ground work.


As far as I was aware, Coppell has no hand in any transfers


OS mentions Coppell had been out to see him play in Portugal.

I suspect Coppell has absolute say over any transfers, but doesn;t get involved in contracts.

Can you imagine Hammond and McDermeott really going out and signing random players without Coppell having any say ? He will be briefing them on the type of player he wants, they will find him options and he will narrow them down. Once they have detailed dossiers Coppell will have the final say and then leave Hammond to do the financials.

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by SpaceCruiser » 17 May 2007 10:28

Royalee Well done Spaceshitter for ruining yet another thread.


Really unfair you blaming me since it wasn't me who started the history discussion. :roll:

But then you're a twat really.

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by Hoop Blah » 17 May 2007 10:31

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Hoop Blah Interesting to read in the Post that Coppell has only seen the lad play on the video's and this is another example of McDermot and Hammond really doing the ground work.


As far as I was aware, Coppell has no hand in any transfers


Well it seems he leaves most of the scouting, selling and negotiating to Hammond and McDermot but I think he still has the final say on who goes in and out. I thought he at least scouted our major signings himself as well though, but maybe he doesn't?

To be fair I get the impression that this isn't a 'major' siging and is more an investment signing in a squad player, a bit like a Bennett. I'd be more surprised if Coppell was less involved in our major signings, like a Halford, Soel or Lita, as oppossed to less expensive gambles like this.


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by Fezza » 17 May 2007 10:39

Bowman's Quiver [quoteWilliam had a stronger claim to the British throne than Harold ever did. The Normans were indeed from Scandinavia and like the Saxons before them were pushing westward to escape the fiercer clans coming out of the Steppes (spelling!).

Needless to say most Britain’s contain a far higher quantity of Danish blood than either Norman or Saxon, as a couple of century’s after the Norman invasion we were damn nearly conquered by the Danes (see Alfred the Great for details on amazing resistance, gave up the whole country bar Wessex)!


If I might add my tuppence ha'penny to one of the most off-track threads I've ever seen on HBA?

Alfred the Great's heroics were nearly two hundred years before the Norman Invasion and not a couple of centuries after it.

West Saxons
Alfred the Great (871 - 899)
Edward the Elder (899 - 924)
Ælfweard (924), King of Wessex only.
Athelstan (924 - 939)
Edmund I (939 - 946)
Edred (946 - 955)
Edwy the Fair (955 - 959)
Edgar the Peaceable (959 - 975)
St Edward the Martyr (975 - 978)
Ethelred the Unready (978 - 1013, 1014 - 1016)
Edmund Ironside (1016)

Danish Kings
Sweyn Forkbeard (1013 - 1014)
Canute the Great (1016 - 1035)
Harold Harefoot (1035 - 1040)
Harthacanute (1040 - 1042)

West Saxon Restoration
St Edward the Confessor (1042 - 1066)
Harold Godwinson (1066)
Edgar Atheling (1066)

Normans
In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy invaded England. He defeated King Harold II and became King.

William the Conqueror (1066 - 1087)
William II (1087 - 1100)
Henry I (1100 - 1135) (buried at Reading Abbey!)
Stephen (1135 - 1154)

Plantagenets

Empress Matilda (1141)
Henry II (1154-1189)
Richard I, the Lionheart (1189-1199)
John (1199-1216)
Henry III (1216-1272)
Edward I (1272-1307)
Edward II (1307-1327) (deposed, died 1327)
Edward III (1327-1377)
Richard II (1377-1399) (deposed, died 1400)

Lancastrians
Henry IV (1399-1413)
Henry V (1413-1422)
Henry VI (1422-1461 and 1470-1471)

Yorkists
Edward IV (1461-1470 and 1471-1483)
Edward V (uncrowned) (1483) (deposed 1483, most likely assassinated)
Richard III (1483-1485)

HTH
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Oop's I'll keep my gob shut in future!!!!! :oops:

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by Fezza » 17 May 2007 10:43

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(they) are just a bunch of filthy cheese eating surrender monkey peasants squatting on it?



With a higher standard of living, infinitely better social and health-care provision, better climate, better food,(including cheese), better wine, better road network, better public transport, better train network and a better national (Le Pen reckons their not French, but then he's a C*NT) football team. :shock:


Top piece of misquoting going on! Do you work for the Mirror?

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by brendywendy » 17 May 2007 11:19

Bowman's Quiver [quoteWilliam had a stronger claim to the British throne than Harold ever did. The Normans were indeed from Scandinavia and like the Saxons before them were pushing westward to escape the fiercer clans coming out of the Steppes (spelling!).

Needless to say most Britain’s contain a far higher quantity of Danish blood than either Norman or Saxon, as a couple of century’s after the Norman invasion we were damn nearly conquered by the Danes (see Alfred the Great for details on amazing resistance, gave up the whole country bar Wessex)!


If I might add my tuppence ha'penny to one of the most off-track threads I've ever seen on HBA?

Alfred the Great's heroics were nearly two hundred years before the Norman Invasion and not a couple of centuries after it.

West Saxons
Alfred the Great (871 - 899)
Edward the Elder (899 - 924)
Ælfweard (924), King of Wessex only.
Athelstan (924 - 939)
Edmund I (939 - 946)
Edred (946 - 955)
Edwy the Fair (955 - 959)
Edgar the Peaceable (959 - 975)
St Edward the Martyr (975 - 978)
Ethelred the Unready (978 - 1013, 1014 - 1016)
Edmund Ironside (1016)

Danish Kings
Sweyn Forkbeard (1013 - 1014)
Canute the Great (1016 - 1035)
Harold Harefoot (1035 - 1040)
Harthacanute (1040 - 1042)

West Saxon Restoration
St Edward the Confessor (1042 - 1066)
Harold Godwinson (1066)
Edgar Atheling (1066)

Normans
In 1066, William, Duke of Normandy invaded England. He defeated King Harold II and became King.

William the Conqueror (1066 - 1087)
William II (1087 - 1100)
Henry I (1100 - 1135) (buried at Reading Abbey!)
Stephen (1135 - 1154)

Plantagenets

Empress Matilda (1141)
Henry II (1154-1189)
Richard I, the Lionheart (1189-1199)
John (1199-1216)
Henry III (1216-1272)
Edward I (1272-1307)
Edward II (1307-1327) (deposed, died 1327)
Edward III (1327-1377)
Richard II (1377-1399) (deposed, died 1400)

Lancastrians
Henry IV (1399-1413)
Henry V (1413-1422)
Henry VI (1422-1461 and 1470-1471)

Yorkists
Edward IV (1461-1470 and 1471-1483)
Edward V (uncrowned) (1483) (deposed 1483, most likely assassinated)
Richard III (1483-1485)

HTH[/quote]

wahey

that list contains my favourite english king

ethelred the unready

does anyone know what he wasnt ready for?


sweyn forkbeard is a good kingname too

we should do that for modern kings/queens

king charles the chinless?

queen elizabeth the homely?

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by SpaceCruiser » 17 May 2007 11:25

brendywendy wahey

that list contains my favourite english king

ethelred the unready

does anyone know what he wasnt ready for?


Not sure, but I think it might be some invasion that he wasn't ready for.

Actually check out the entry on him in wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelred_the_unready


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by brendywendy » 17 May 2007 11:33

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brendywendy wahey

that list contains my favourite english king

ethelred the unready

does anyone know what he wasnt ready for?


Not sure, but I think it might be some invasion that he wasn't ready for.

Actually check out the entry on him in wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelred_the_unready


Nice work


thanks

i especially like this bit about him
hes definately my favourite king now!:
"According to William of Malmesbury, Ethelred defecated in the baptismal font as a child, which led St. Dunstan to prophesy that the English monarchy would be overthrown during his reign."

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A new sign. Yesterday.

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by brendywendy » 17 May 2007 12:01

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A new sign. Yesterday.



?

i liked the old one

coppell out!

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by Skyline » 17 May 2007 12:24

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A new sign. Yesterday.


Wait for the moans because the LI badge occupies the same amount of space as the RFC badge...

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by Flyingkiwi » 17 May 2007 12:30

Ethelred was "unready" because he got kicked out by Edmund Ironside and then restored.

Williams "tenious" claim to the English throne came through him being a distant cousin of Edward (William was illegitimate however so that would have been an extremely weak argument) and his kidnapping of Harold and forcing him to promise to support his claim to the throne, which would seem to be the actions of a man who knew his claims weren't that strong. But, really, there were no established rules for sucession until much later.

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by M U R T Y » 17 May 2007 12:46

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Hoop Blah Interesting to read in the Post that Coppell has only seen the lad play on the video's and this is another example of McDermot and Hammond really doing the ground work.


As far as I was aware, Coppell has no hand in any transfers


OS mentions Coppell had been out to see him play in Portugal.

I suspect Coppell has absolute say over any transfers, but doesn;t get involved in contracts.

Can you imagine Hammond and McDermeott really going out and signing random players without Coppell having any say ? He will be briefing them on the type of player he wants, they will find him options and he will narrow them down. Once they have detailed dossiers Coppell will have the final say and then leave Hammond to do the financials.


I think that Sheffield United have a slighty different approach for new players :lol:

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by Denver Royal » 17 May 2007 14:21

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brendywendy In terms of language, ireland is more local than france

Well, assuming you can speak some French, how familiar are you with the official language of Ireland, Irish (gaelic)? :P


have you ever been to ireland?

they all speak english, most of the time,
their road signs are in english,as are their newspapers, their modern literature is all written in english, as is their music nowadays

is gaelic what pikeys speak?

its official in the same way as welsh is probably the official language of wales but is only spoken regularly buy a few backward farmers in some isolated valley or other.

right, thats the irish, and the welsh, and the french al lupset

anyone else?


Yes, I've been to Ireland. Many times. Most road signs there are in English in so far as they are in both English and Irish. Some are only in English and some - particularly in the west of Ireland - are only in Irish, but most are in both. There are newspapers, literature and music all still written in Irish. Obviously its a language thats been in decline for many years but its undergoing a revival of sorts recently.

In Wales especially in the north, you will find that Welsh is more widely spoken than just by a few 'backward farmers'.

Anyways, my original point was that our language, English, is in some ways more akin or 'local' to French than it is to the celtic language of Irish (and Welsh).

Somebody else posted that we are more 'local' to Brittany than to Ireland. Well, they have their own celtic language in Brittany, too - Breton - which is akin to...Cornish (which also is undergoing a revival of sorts). How's your Cornish? :wink:

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