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by Hoop Blah » 20 Aug 2007 10:16

Stranded Booing of teams not kicking the ball out when a player is injured isn't a Reading centric thing, it happens at a lot of games. Most fans are idiots and don't know the rule change has occured.


This was intriduced last season and plenty of teams still kicked the ball out from what I remember, despite being told to leave it to the ref.

Personally I was calling for either side or the ref to stop the game to allow Oster treatment. It would be a bit different if either team was in the midst of a flowing attack but we'd already repelled their initial attack and they were just keeping possession by passing along the back four.

The ref is instructed to stop the play if he considers that a player is seriously injured. That is a bit ambiguous but more often than not a ref stops the game to allow treatment if the player goes to ground, and in Osters case I think the ref should've stopped the game as he made an effort to continue but was obviously in serious pain at the time.

As for the general boo'ing of opposition players, I don't think Reading fans are much worse than most other sets of fans for picking out players for needless attention. We don't see it much against our players because we're a little club who nobody really has anything against yet.

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by SpaceCruiser » 20 Aug 2007 10:17

The Goat was fed a) All booing is wrong and does nothing but ruin team performance.


Depends on which team's performance it ruins!

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by bigmike » 20 Aug 2007 10:17

Huntley & Palmer Of course, forgot about him. Hated by Reading fans for his spitting on of Celtic fans. Thanks


Any player who is guilty of spitting on any fan including Swindon fans should be booed IMO

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by Basingstoke Royal » 20 Aug 2007 10:19

Huntley & Palmer Is it only me that notices this but are our fans the only one's to have the ability to boo a player or official at every game we play in this league.

At Utd it was Ronaldo, Rooney and Stiles
At Chelsea it was Cech, Lampard, Drogba, Pizarro, the referee, Mourinho
At Everton it was Johnson, Howard, the whole Everton team and the referee and his officials again.

I'd understand if some of it is justifiable but for the most part it is laughable. Why on Earth were people booing Everton for not kicking the ball into touch when Oster was injured? Bennett quite rightly allowed play to continue as it was not a serious injury, Everton continued to do so yet RFC fans were foaming at the mouth. The talk before this season and last was that you didn't have to kick the ball out for an injury as the referee would stop the game if it is deemed serious enough. Oster, whilst turning over on his ankle was also play acting to waste some time.

The small mindedness of our support beggars belief sometimes. Why can't we focus on getting behind the team and supporting them rather than handing the away team the extra motivation they often need to score against us. It's happened on countless occassions now with Johnson, Lampard, Ronaldo, Heskey and a few others. Let's sort it out please

Oh and can someone tell me who is on the boo hitlist for Bolton away.


I boo anyone who ruins the english game. And the majority of those people listed do. They are cheats who should be punished for the way they conduct themselves on the pitch. They make matches a joke.

Just like styles. He was shocking against united and could have cost liverpool the title yesterday. In any other profession you would be sacked and he should be.

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by Stranded » 20 Aug 2007 10:21

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Stranded Booing of teams not kicking the ball out when a player is injured isn't a Reading centric thing, it happens at a lot of games. Most fans are idiots and don't know the rule change has occured.


This was intriduced last season and plenty of teams still kicked the ball out from what I remember, despite being told to leave it to the ref.

Personally I was calling for either side or the ref to stop the game to allow Oster treatment. It would be a bit different if either team was in the midst of a flowing attack but we'd already repelled their initial attack and they were just keeping possession by passing along the back four.

The ref is instructed to stop the play if he considers that a player is seriously injured. That is a bit ambiguous but more often than not a ref stops the game to allow treatment if the player goes to ground, and in Osters case I think the ref should've stopped the game as he made an effort to continue but was obviously in serious pain at the time.

As for the general boo'ing of opposition players, I don't think Reading fans are much worse than most other sets of fans for picking out players for needless attention. We don't see it much against our players because we're a little club who nobody really has anything against yet.


But from the refs point of view, the player managed to get back to the half way line before finally going down. I guess he could say, well you've gone that far, why didn't you just go off the pitch for treatment?


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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Aug 2007 10:22

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Any player who is guilty of spitting on any fan including Swindon fans should be booed IMO


So will you boo Carragher for throwing a coin at Arsenal fans some years ago? Alan Smith for throwing an object back into the Leeds fans after they threw it at him?

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by SpaceCruiser » 20 Aug 2007 10:23

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Stranded Booing of teams not kicking the ball out when a player is injured isn't a Reading centric thing, it happens at a lot of games. Most fans are idiots and don't know the rule change has occured.


This was intriduced last season and plenty of teams still kicked the ball out from what I remember, despite being told to leave it to the ref.

Personally I was calling for either side or the ref to stop the game to allow Oster treatment. It would be a bit different if either team was in the midst of a flowing attack but we'd already repelled their initial attack and they were just keeping possession by passing along the back four.

The ref is instructed to stop the play if he considers that a player is seriously injured. That is a bit ambiguous but more often than not a ref stops the game to allow treatment if the player goes to ground, and in Osters case I think the ref should've stopped the game as he made an effort to continue but was obviously in serious pain at the time.

As for the general boo'ing of opposition players, I don't think Reading fans are much worse than most other sets of fans for picking out players for needless attention. We don't see it much against our players because we're a little club who nobody really has anything against yet.


But from the refs point of view, the player managed to get back to the half way line before finally going down. I guess he could say, well you've gone that far, why didn't you just go off the pitch for treatment?


I seem to remember that a player cannot leave the pitch without the referee's permission? Or am I wrong?

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by Hoop Blah » 20 Aug 2007 10:27

Stranded But from the refs point of view, the player managed to get back to the half way line before finally going down. I guess he could say, well you've gone that far, why didn't you just go off the pitch for treatment?


Because a) the player doesn't have to go off the pitch if he's seriously injured, b) it's the ref's responsibility to stop the game if a player is seriously injured and c) it's the convention within the game (see the stoppage for the Chelsea player to get treatment on Wednesday night right on the touchline - which I was demanding should be done of the pitch at the time of course!).

A bit of pressure from the fans to stop the game when our player is down is exactly the thing the crowd should be doing. There's been much debate and call for a better atmosphere at the Madejski to held the team turn it into a fortress and rightly or wrongly trying to claim an advantage from these type of things is all part of the benefit of being the home team.

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by Hoop Blah » 20 Aug 2007 10:29

SpaceCruiser I seem to remember that a player cannot leave the pitch without the referee's permission? Or am I wrong?


Bloody hell.....Spacey has made a half decent point!!!


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by Stranded » 20 Aug 2007 10:29

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Stranded But from the refs point of view, the player managed to get back to the half way line before finally going down. I guess he could say, well you've gone that far, why didn't you just go off the pitch for treatment?


Because a) the player doesn't have to go off the pitch if he's seriously injured, b) it's the ref's responsibility to stop the game if a player is seriously injured and c) it's the convention within the game (see the stoppage for the Chelsea player to get treatment on Wednesday night right on the touchline - which I was demanding should be done of the pitch at the time of course!).

A bit of pressure from the fans to stop the game when our player is down is exactly the thing the crowd should be doing. There's been much debate and call for a better atmosphere at the Madejski to held the team turn it into a fortress and rightly or wrongly trying to claim an advantage from these type of things is all part of the benefit of being the home team.


Like I said in my first post, I understand why the booing took place but accept that doing it will have no effect on the opposition when they are losing with 10 mins to go and have a man advantage for a short period. I would hope that we would do exactly as Everton did if the same situation.

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by Sharpy » 20 Aug 2007 10:32

Stranded Booing of teams not kicking the ball out when a player is injured isn't a Reading centric thing, it happens at a lot of games. Most fans are idiots and don't know the rule change has occured.

I'm sure plenty of clubs do boo most games but we see Reading more so notice it more. Still a bit weird at times, esp at people like Johnson so love it and love scoring against us (bar the width of the post, would have had 9 in 9 againt us).

Still I'd rather have that than be booing our own side off.


what does it matter?!! a good sportsman would always kick the ball out of play when someone is injured no matter what rule there is, shame you dont get many of those in this day and age! its a disgrace.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Aug 2007 10:35

The Goat was fed I boo pointless threads that raise issues that have already been raised causing the same points to be recycled.

Are you of the opinion....

a) All booing is wrong and does nothing but ruin team performance.

or

b) Having paid my money I can boo who I like when I like.

or

c) It's all panto.


So for this thread....BOOOOOOO


Maybe we are just really missing any sort of rival to look forward to playing every season. It's the only justification I can think of

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by Stranded » 20 Aug 2007 10:36

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Stranded Booing of teams not kicking the ball out when a player is injured isn't a Reading centric thing, it happens at a lot of games. Most fans are idiots and don't know the rule change has occured.

I'm sure plenty of clubs do boo most games but we see Reading more so notice it more. Still a bit weird at times, esp at people like Johnson so love it and love scoring against us (bar the width of the post, would have had 9 in 9 againt us).

Still I'd rather have that than be booing our own side off.


what does it matter?!! a good sportsman would always kick the ball out of play when someone is injured no matter what rule there is, shame you dont get many of those in this day and age! its a disgrace.


Not when said injured player has run to the halfway line before going down. Plus how many times did you see players go down, the ball go out and hey presto they're running around like nothing ever happened. Oster was hurt as we know but Everton had no need to kick the ball out as for the reason you mention, you can never really know if they are faking it or not and just looking to disrupt play as they look to hold on to a 1-0 win.


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by The Goat was fed » 20 Aug 2007 10:38

Huntley & Palmer
The Goat was fed I boo pointless threads that raise issues that have already been raised causing the same points to be recycled.

Are you of the opinion....

a) All booing is wrong and does nothing but ruin team performance.

or

b) Having paid my money I can boo who I like when I like.

or

c) It's all panto.


So for this thread....BOOOOOOO


Maybe we are just really missing any sort of rival to look forward to playing every season. It's the only justification I can think of


I miss Swindon BOOOOOO

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by Gregster » 20 Aug 2007 10:38

Huntley & Palmer Is it only me that notices this but are our fans the only one's to have the ability to boo a player or official at every game we play in this league.

At Utd it was Ronaldo, Rooney and Stiles
At Chelsea it was Cech, Lampard, Drogba, Pizarro, the referee, Mourinho
At Everton it was Johnson, Howard, the whole Everton team and the referee and his officials again.

I'd understand if some of it is justifiable but for the most part it is laughable. Why on Earth were people booing Everton for not kicking the ball into touch when Oster was injured? Bennett quite rightly allowed play to continue as it was not a serious injury, Everton continued to do so yet RFC fans were foaming at the mouth. The talk before this season and last was that you didn't have to kick the ball out for an injury as the referee would stop the game if it is deemed serious enough. Oster, whilst turning over on his ankle was also play acting to waste some time.

The small mindedness of our support beggars belief sometimes. Why can't we focus on getting behind the team and supporting them rather than handing the away team the extra motivation they often need to score against us. It's happened on countless occassions now with Johnson, Lampard, Ronaldo, Heskey and a few others. Let's sort it out please

Oh and can someone tell me who is on the boo hitlist for Bolton away.


I totally agree mate and I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the money I've spent on my ST is gonna bring me more heartache than joy this year. The fans in the stadium seem more intent on either goading the away fans or negatively shouting at the pitch then trying to back the team.

As a fanbase, there seems to be a lot of pent up, negative aggression in the stands. Does that come from being a town full of IT staff and middle management? I'm included in that list by the way and often wonder why the hatred against fans, teams and refs is so OTT at RFC. We have no derby rivals, no real grudge matches with any history and yet there's always very little in the way of support for the team but loads of boo'ing, insults, etc for the opposition team, fans or refs. We class a good atmosphere as a series of loud chants for brief periods or 'Blarmy' sung at 800bpm for 15 secs.

This is highlighted by the stadium being so quiet when we're getting beat - right up until the away fans sing at the RFC crowd and not in support of their team - we answer those cat calls fairly quick. And I know it happens all round the country but not quite to the levels it seems to at RFC.

The win against Everton felt good but our lack of support was noticeable when we were 1 - 0 up while Oster was being treated and all the crowd chanted was asking Hahnemann the score.

When those periods happen, it would be great to sing each players chant. At the very least, it passes the time during an anxious period when we had been under pressure and there's still a fair few mins left on the clock.

I think the Liverpool Kop have a campaign to try and bring back support chants for the teams rather than goading for the away fans and that was noticeable during the game yesterday. Liverpool fans sung to their team all game, while you could hear the Chelsea fans with the 'your support is f***ing sh!t' style chants (on of my personally most hated things to hear).

It's no wonder we hate Chelsea so much, there's so much in their fanbase that's replicated in ours.

Refereeing standards, big team bias, don't stand / swear etc attitudes is all getting a bit boring for me this year. I know this will incite all the usual 'football is for families now / it's a different game, etc' replies but I couldn't care less.

Walking out of the Chelsea game and hearing a girl and her mate in Y25 say that 'The game was rubbish but I got to see Frank Lampard' summed it all up for me.

Monday morning rant over. I usually cheer up by lunch.

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by Sharpy » 20 Aug 2007 10:38

aye i did see bikey gesture for him to go down. was right choice tbf cos he was playing them all a mile onside as he was hobbling back. maybe should of just walked off.

but you get my gist? hardly any sportsmen in football these days. whenever i play i would always put the ball out if someone is hurt, get a fair few plaudits for your fair play aswell.

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by Maguire » 20 Aug 2007 10:41

Dirk Gently It's for precisely this small-mindedness that we get marked down in the FAPL's "Fair Play"rankings - they don't just measure what happens on the pitch, but in the stands as well.


FUKK NO!! Tell me this isn't true?!!

If I knew we were going to get marked down in the FAPL's "Fair Play" Rankings then I'd strongly reprimand anyone near me who exhibited small-mindedness.

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by Pridders » 20 Aug 2007 10:43

Skin Booing opposition players and officials has to be 1000,000 x better than booing any of our own players.

On this basis I don't mind it.


What about Seol?? He is worth Booing.

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by Huntley & Palmer » 20 Aug 2007 10:43

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Huntley & Palmer Is it only me that notices this but are our fans the only one's to have the ability to boo a player or official at every game we play in this league.

At Utd it was Ronaldo, Rooney and Stiles
At Chelsea it was Cech, Lampard, Drogba, Pizarro, the referee, Mourinho
At Everton it was Johnson, Howard, the whole Everton team and the referee and his officials again.

I'd understand if some of it is justifiable but for the most part it is laughable. Why on Earth were people booing Everton for not kicking the ball into touch when Oster was injured? Bennett quite rightly allowed play to continue as it was not a serious injury, Everton continued to do so yet RFC fans were foaming at the mouth. The talk before this season and last was that you didn't have to kick the ball out for an injury as the referee would stop the game if it is deemed serious enough. Oster, whilst turning over on his ankle was also play acting to waste some time.

The small mindedness of our support beggars belief sometimes. Why can't we focus on getting behind the team and supporting them rather than handing the away team the extra motivation they often need to score against us. It's happened on countless occassions now with Johnson, Lampard, Ronaldo, Heskey and a few others. Let's sort it out please

Oh and can someone tell me who is on the boo hitlist for Bolton away.


I totally agree mate and I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that the money I've spent on my ST is gonna bring me more heartache than joy this year. The fans in the stadium seem more intent on either goading the away fans or negatively shouting at the pitch then trying to back the team.

As a fanbase, there seems to be a lot of pent up, negative aggression in the stands. Does that come from being a town full of IT staff and middle management? I'm included in that list by the way and often wonder why the hatred against fans, teams and refs is so OTT at RFC. We have no derby rivals, no real grudge matches with any history and yet there's always very little in the way of support for the team but loads of boo'ing, insults, etc for the opposition team, fans or refs. We class a good atmosphere as a series of loud chants for brief periods or 'Blarmy' sung at 800bpm for 15 secs.

This is highlighted by the stadium being so quiet when we're getting beat - right up until the away fans sing at the RFC crowd and not in support of their team - we answer those cat calls fairly quick. And I know it happens all round the country but not quite to the levels it seems to at RFC.

The win against Everton felt good but our lack of support was noticeable when we were 1 - 0 up while Oster was being treated and all the crowd chanted was asking Hahnemann the score.

When those periods happen, it would be great to sing each players chant. At the very least, it passes the time during an anxious period when we had been under pressure and there's still a fair few mins left on the clock.

I think the Liverpool Kop have a campaign to try and bring back support chants for the teams rather than goading for the away fans and that was noticeable during the game yesterday. Liverpool fans sung to their team all game, while you could hear the Chelsea fans with the 'your support is f***ing sh!t' style chants (on of my personally most hated things to hear).

It's no wonder we hate Chelsea so much, there's so much in their fanbase that's replicated in ours.

Refereeing standards, big team bias, don't stand / swear etc attitudes is all getting a bit boring for me this year. I know this will incite all the usual 'football is for families now / it's a different game, etc' replies but I couldn't care less.

Walking out of the Chelsea game and hearing a girl and her mate in Y25 say that 'The game was rubbish but I got to see Frank Lampard' summed it all up for me.

Monday morning rant over. I usually cheer up by lunch.


Almost match my thoughts on this season 100%

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by The Goat was fed » 20 Aug 2007 10:44

LOL love it. Next time someone shows disgruntlement at another poor decision from a "qualified" ref I will remind them that we are still in the running for the fair play award and such behaviour is not helping our push.

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