by Lower West » 13 Jan 2008 14:56
by brendywendy » 13 Jan 2008 14:57
Lower West The 3 players you mentioned left cos Spurs had an excess of players in their first team squad. Looking at Spurs league position now you wonder of they made a big mistake..........
For all the grumblings we are still 13th in the table.
I would be more concerned if I was a Bolton supporter, having lost Anelka who has scoed 50% of their goals this season, you wonder if there is anyway back.
Take comfort that if we survive this season then the promoted clubs all very likely to be in the mould of Derby. Football is rapidly fragmenting into leagues within leagues.
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 13 Jan 2008 15:02
that was sort of my point. We've not managed to pick up a single player who has made it to the first XI since promotion. The nearest was Seol, who was helped by Little being injured.RoyalBlueKevin Doyles Right FootDoyle, Shorey, Long, Harper, Convey, Hunt, Sonko. all players hardly know of, yet our scouting sysytem unearted them.Rev Algenon Stickleback H there's isn't really a problem with our transfer policy. What we have a problem with is with our scouting, as we don't seem able to find players able to come in and claim a place in the team. That we can watch players for over a year and then they turn out not to be good enough is something of a concern.
Not worked as well recently though has it. Halford, Fae, Cisse (jury out), Rosenior.
by Platypuss » 13 Jan 2008 15:08
brendywendyLower West The 3 players you mentioned left cos Spurs had an excess of players in their first team squad. Looking at Spurs league position now you wonder of they made a big mistake..........
For all the grumblings we are still 13th in the table.
I would be more concerned if I was a Bolton supporter, having lost Anelka who has scoed 50% of their goals this season, you wonder if there is anyway back.
Take comfort that if we survive this season then the promoted clubs all very likely to be in the mould of Derby. Football is rapidly fragmenting into leagues within leagues.
worst move ever from bolton
its like theyer saying, we are down, we may as well cash in
by brendywendy » 13 Jan 2008 15:13
PlatypussbrendywendyLower West The 3 players you mentioned left cos Spurs had an excess of players in their first team squad. Looking at Spurs league position now you wonder of they made a big mistake..........
For all the grumblings we are still 13th in the table.
I would be more concerned if I was a Bolton supporter, having lost Anelka who has scoed 50% of their goals this season, you wonder if there is anyway back.
Take comfort that if we survive this season then the promoted clubs all very likely to be in the mould of Derby. Football is rapidly fragmenting into leagues within leagues.
or consigned themselves to relegation with no one ever coming near that club who has half that boys quality
just think its short-termist
fair enough he wanted out anyway, and then i guess u have to cash in
i just think it looks very bad for them even if they sign another 5 players
worst move ever from bolton
its like theyer saying, we are down, we may as well cash in
That's an astoundingly naive comment - and that's really saying something with your previous.
This was Chelsea coming in for Nicolas Anelka. Once they came sniffing it was only ever going to be about how much Bolton could get.
And I would say they've done rather well, and with enough time to still use the money.
by PEARCEY » 13 Jan 2008 15:24
brendywendywinchester_royalbrendywendyreadingfc13Exactly! Two seasons ago Pompey were right down the bottom of the league and looked finished. They then signed Benjani, Paramot, Davis and Mendes for a combined total of £12M. Not only did if secure their survival but these players are still regular features of their team two seasons on. The key is they didnt target players who were first teamers at other prem clubs (Sunderland and Hunt anyone?) but went for experienced players who were unhappy that they couldn't get into their teams (and teams that are better than we are, such as spurs). TBH spending a combined total of £7.5M on players the calibre of Mendes, Davis and Paramot is damn good business and doesn't seem without our reach. Yet it's always going to be the wages holding us back.PEARCEY just look where Pompey were two years ago.
weve said already that if a quality player was available we would break the wage structure
january isnt over yet
but if we do spend 12 million like pompey did?will that guarantee our survival?
yes
wicked
job done then
, spend 12 million, and we are sorted, whats everyones problem
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 15:37
Platypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
by brendywendy » 13 Jan 2008 15:39
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 13 Jan 2008 15:42
Smoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 15:42
brendywendy its still january isnt it?
by brendywendy » 13 Jan 2008 15:43
#Smoking Kills Dancing Doebrendywendy its still january isnt it?
You said the same all summer.
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 15:44
Rev Algenon Stickleback HSmoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
the next level being where he took us last year I presume?
How much bottle does it take to sign a few players?
Clearly sacking him now must be the answer then?
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 15:45
brendywendy#Smoking Kills Dancing Doebrendywendy its still january isnt it?
You said the same all summer.
?
by Royal Lady » 13 Jan 2008 15:51
by brendywendy » 13 Jan 2008 15:53
Royal Lady Aah but the likes of Brendywendy and Royal Rother know better than everyone else. The rest of us are just plebs and luddites.
by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 13 Jan 2008 15:58
so what is it exactly that coppell is "bottling" out of?Smoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback HSmoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
the next level being where he took us last year I presume?
How much bottle does it take to sign a few players?
Clearly sacking him now must be the answer then?
The next level is establishing us at this level.
Something we need to sign players better than what we have to do.
We've not signed one player better than what we have in 2.5 years.
I don't know how much bottle it takes to sign players, but we need a centre half, a right winger and a centre mid and we need them now.
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 16:04
Rev Algenon Stickleback Hso what is it exactly that coppell is "bottling" out of?Smoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback HSmoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
the next level being where he took us last year I presume?
How much bottle does it take to sign a few players?
Clearly sacking him now must be the answer then?
The next level is establishing us at this level.
Something we need to sign players better than what we have to do.
We've not signed one player better than what we have in 2.5 years.
I don't know how much bottle it takes to sign players, but we need a centre half, a right winger and a centre mid and we need them now.
by zac naloen » 13 Jan 2008 16:09
Smoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback Hso what is it exactly that coppell is "bottling" out of?Smoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback HSmoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
the next level being where he took us last year I presume?
How much bottle does it take to sign a few players?
Clearly sacking him now must be the answer then?
The next level is establishing us at this level.
Something we need to sign players better than what we have to do.
We've not signed one player better than what we have in 2.5 years.
I don't know how much bottle it takes to sign players, but we need a centre half, a right winger and a centre mid and we need them now.
Signing the players he himself admits we need.
Spending money and putting presure on himself.
We go down having spent such little money everyone outside this club blames JM. Thinks there's nothing Coppell could do, he wasn't given the money.
IF he signs quality players I will admit I was wrong, but he hasn't yet.
by RoyalBlue » 13 Jan 2008 16:15
by Smoking Kills Dancing Doe » 13 Jan 2008 16:15
zac naloenSmoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback Hso what is it exactly that coppell is "bottling" out of?Smoking Kills Dancing DoeRev Algenon Stickleback HSmoking Kills Dancing DoePlatypuss Let us not forget what SSC said at the start of December:
Boss - Spending equals ambition
Steve Coppell has reaffirmed the need for more signings as the Club continues to look for growth.
Earlier this week, Chairman John Madejski confirmed that funds are in place for January signings.
The boss has also said that we would be losing ground if we do not continue to make inroads in the transfer market.
Coppell said, "Players want to come to clubs with ambition, and we like to think we've got ambition.
"If you look at the summer, Man Utd and Liverpool spent £40million, £50million each, we spent hardly anything. So by definition we're losing ground.
"So, for this club to be ambitious we've got be be acquiring three substantial signings every year.
"To be honest, it's a minimum of three.
"As time goes by, those signings will become more expensive.
"For us to make those signings, they've got to want to come here.
"They've got to see the ambition, it's got to be tangible in the form of expensive signings, a bigger stadium.
"Everything about the Club has got to meet the demands of the modern Premier League player."
It's now time to walk the walk, Steve, Hammond, Mr Mad et al.
I got slated at the time for saying Coppell's not going to back his words up.
It's the summer all over again. Coppell comes out talks big (I was at the fans forum at the beginning of the summer where he said we needed 6 players) but when it comes to it he does nothing.
Remember his I'm happy with the squad comments? Now we've got recent results mean I can be picky in the transfer market.
He's does not have the bottle to take this club to the next level.
I'd love to be wrong, if he goes and signs quality players and plays them I'll admit I was wrong, but we all know he won't do it.
the next level being where he took us last year I presume?
How much bottle does it take to sign a few players?
Clearly sacking him now must be the answer then?
The next level is establishing us at this level.
Something we need to sign players better than what we have to do.
We've not signed one player better than what we have in 2.5 years.
I don't know how much bottle it takes to sign players, but we need a centre half, a right winger and a centre mid and we need them now.
Signing the players he himself admits we need.
Spending money and putting presure on himself.
We go down having spent such little money everyone outside this club blames JM. Thinks there's nothing Coppell could do, he wasn't given the money.
IF he signs quality players I will admit I was wrong, but he hasn't yet.
I'm trying to work if you are actually saying that Coppell isn't trying to sign quality players...
Or are you suggesting that if we can't find anyone who can better our team we should just sign someone to plug the gaps?
We have plenty of players who can plug the gaps. We don't need anymore. There's no point in signing more cover and unless a player comes available that can IMPROVE the team I don't expect us to sign anyone, I have no problem with that. The problem is getting players who are available.
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