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Re: Team for Villa

by Ian Royal » 14 Feb 2008 21:32

rfcjoe Get the slow old shit out and replace it with pacey youngsters or fresh legs. Murty gunnarsson convey oster harper and ingimarsson should never play for the club again - pure shit the lot of them - slow and weak and inaffective in games.My team would be depending on availability:

Usa

rosenior sonko cisse shorey

kebe marek karacan/fae hunty

lita(form in reserves + doyles poor form) kits


You sir, are the poor victim of a bodged lobotomy.

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Re: Team for Villa

by RG6 » 14 Feb 2008 22:59

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rfcjoe Get the slow old shit out and replace it with pacey youngsters or fresh legs. Murty gunnarsson convey oster harper and ingimarsson should never play for the club again - pure shit the lot of them - slow and weak and inaffective in games.My team would be depending on availability:

Usa

rosenior sonko cisse shorey

kebe marek karacan/fae hunty

lita(form in reserves + doyles poor form) kits


You sir, are the poor victim of a bodged lobotomy.


Actually after reading what he said I think the lobotomy went quite well

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Re: Team for Villa

by West Stand Flash » 15 Feb 2008 09:02

Marsuc
Rosenior Sonko Cisse Shorey
Kebe Marek Harper Hunt
Lita Kitson

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Re: Team for Villa

by Howser17 » 15 Feb 2008 10:44

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Rosenior Sonko Cisse Shorey
Kebe Marek Harper Hunt
Lita Kitson


This is the team that i would like to see, although would be surprised to see Rosenior start, and possibly even Kebe.

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Re: Team for Villa

by wolsey » 15 Feb 2008 10:52

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rfcjoe Get the slow old shit out and replace it with pacey youngsters or fresh legs. Murty gunnarsson convey oster harper and ingimarsson should never play for the club again - pure shit the lot of them - slow and weak and inaffective in games.My team would be depending on availability:

Usa

rosenior sonko cisse shorey

kebe marek karacan/fae hunty

lita(form in reserves + doyles poor form) kits


You sir, are the poor victim of a bodged lobotomy.


Actually after reading what he said I think the lobotomy went quite well


In fact they probably did well to find a suitable organ to lobotomise


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Re: Team for Villa

by strap » 15 Feb 2008 11:11

The whole year inn John Oster should not be anywhere near the starting XI, let alone the subs bench


No shit Sherlock?
Shame the powers that be cannot see that.
Still, Sir Steve knows best and loyalty WILL see us through.
Not sure where it will see us through to, but it will see us through.
Any news on Karacan's upcoming transfer to a League 1 outfit BTW?

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Re: Team for Villa

by 79Royal » 15 Feb 2008 11:13

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Rosenior Sonko Cisse Shorey
Kebe Marek Harper Hunt
Lita Kitson


100% agree.

Whoever said that Harper shouldn't play for the club again is clearly suffering from some form of dementia or is on the wind up.

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Re: Team for Villa

by Royalee » 15 Feb 2008 11:31

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well that quote is from a google search, if he is none of those things we have to ask why we signed him, and JM should be asking those questions now. If he is not happy with the answers then he should take appropriate action, and soon.


Indeed - and so should many on here blaming Madejski for Coppell's failings in the transfer market, let alone his team selections, which have been nothing short of baffling at places like Blackburn and Villa Park.

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Re: Team for Villa

by 79Royal » 15 Feb 2008 11:43

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well that quote is from a google search, if he is none of those things we have to ask why we signed him, and JM should be asking those questions now. If he is not happy with the answers then he should take appropriate action, and soon.


Indeed - and so should many on here blaming Madejski for Coppell's failings in the transfer market, let alone his team selections, which have been nothing short of baffling at places like Blackburn and Villa Park.


The difference being, Royalee, Coppell sees them everyday in training. You don't.

I'm not saying Coppell is faultless, it's a results based business and he has to take the flak for wherewe currently lie in the table. However, I fail to see how you are qualified to make comments on his selection policies.


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Re: Team for Villa

by PlasticRoyale » 15 Feb 2008 13:09

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Rosenior Sonko Cisse Shorey
Kebe Marek Harper Hunt
Lita Kitson


100% agree.

Whoever said that Harper shouldn't play for the club again is clearly suffering from some form of dementia or is on the wind up.


He is the clubs table tennis champion as well (revealed on talksport yesterday)

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Re: Team for Villa

by Royalee » 15 Feb 2008 13:12

Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.

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Re: Team for Villa

by Platypuss » 15 Feb 2008 13:43

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well that quote is from a google search, if he is none of those things we have to ask why we signed him, and JM should be asking those questions now. If he is not happy with the answers then he should take appropriate action, and soon.


Indeed - and so should many on here blaming Madejski for Coppell's failings in the transfer market, let alone his team selections, which have been nothing short of baffling at places like Blackburn and Villa Park.


The difference being, Royalee, Coppell sees them everyday in training. You don't.

I'm not saying Coppell is faultless, it's a results based business and he has to take the flak for wherewe currently lie in the table. However, I fail to see how you are qualified to make comments on his selection policies.


What's the point in playing someone who looks good in training but can't deliver when it matters?

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Re: Team for Villa

by Archie's penalty » 15 Feb 2008 14:52

Royalee Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.


But do you or do you not have an irrational hatred of Harper Royalee? This business isn't about that. It's about taking rational decisions. I think Coppell is one of the best in the game at making those kind of decisions...


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Re: Team for Villa

by Fezza » 15 Feb 2008 15:03

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Royalee Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.


But do you or do you not have an irrational hatred of Harper Royalee? This business isn't about that. It's about taking rational decisions. I think Coppell is one of the best in the game at making those kind of decisions...


Don't forget the hatred of Lita as well.

To be honest I think Gunnar, Ivar and Murts are off the pace at Premiership level (not a problem next year then), I also think that SC has a somewhat irrational loyalty to those players despite their performance.

On the Harper front all I see is a lot of running around and passing sideways, In the years he has been at Reading I have never thought of him as a defensive or attacking option, which does I think bode the question as to why he is in the side (lack of alternatives accepted)?

At the moment we seem to be hanging on to a lot of very able Championship players, which I suppose is sensible given we may end up there, but, also unacceptable as a fan as we've had three transfer windows to sort it out.

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Re: Team for Villa

by 79Royal » 15 Feb 2008 15:14

Royalee Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.


Firstly, I was referring only to Harper. I agree that the others on that list have been found out this season, though I do think that they would make satisfactory squad players and should be kept hold of for now.

Secondly, I never said that the players perform like Pele in training. I was merely stating the fact the Coppell sees these players everyday and you do not, making him better qualified to make team selections than you.

Finally, if a player cannot be bothered to put in the effort in training, or fails to impress, then he is unlikely to make the first team, regardless of how the 11 that play on a Saturday perform. What is the point in bringing a player that looks worse in training than what you've already got?

By all means, put your views forward on this board, but don't expect everyone to agree with them. Harper's not for you, but personally, I think that he's a battler and that's the type of player we need at the moment.

Oh and congratulations on being such a loyal royal.

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Re: Team for Villa

by Archie's penalty » 15 Feb 2008 15:17

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Royalee Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.


But do you or do you not have an irrational hatred of Harper Royalee? This business isn't about that. It's about taking rational decisions. I think Coppell is one of the best in the game at making those kind of decisions...


Don't forget the hatred of Lita as well.

To be honest I think Gunnar, Ivar and Murts are off the pace at Premiership level (not a problem next year then), I also think that SC has a somewhat irrational loyalty to those players despite their performance.

On the Harper front all I see is a lot of running around and passing sideways, In the years he has been at Reading I have never thought of him as a defensive or attacking option, which does I think bode the question as to why he is in the side (lack of alternatives accepted)?

At the moment we seem to be hanging on to a lot of very able Championship players, which I suppose is sensible given we may end up there, but, also unacceptable as a fan as we've had three transfer windows to sort it out.


Disagree in the main. Harper has been one of our most effective attacking outlets this year. He has scored some very good goals (Citeh, Liverpool, Villa) and should aim to make runs into the box more.

Is it not perfectly rational to go with players you know and trust? This has stood Coppell in good stead with people like Sidwell, Hunt, Sonko and others. If we stay up Coppell has a right to feel vindicated for his loyalty to players like Gunnarsson.

My favourite team at the moment?

Hahnemann

Murty Cisse Sonko Shorey


Kebe Harper Matejovsky Hunt


One of Kitson, Lita, Doyle and Long. Kitson and Doyle are both off form. Don't really know who I'd play up front...

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Re: Team for Villa

by Archie's penalty » 15 Feb 2008 15:20

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Royalee Having seen every game bar Spurs in the cup this season, as well as the likes of dross like Oster play in years gone by, I feel very qualified to give my opinion thank you, especially as the majority of the fans can also see his failings. I'd love to be in your world and imagine that Gunnarsson, Oster, Harper and Lita among others magically transform to play like Pele in training, but unfortunately I'm not seeing it somehow.

If our manager refuses to select his team based on how they do on a Saturday, then I suggest that maybe he should be looking at signing Mr Woo if he prefers to look on unchallenged exhibitions to judge whether or not a player is good enough to earn a first team place.


Firstly, I was referring only to Harper. I agree that the others on that list have been found out this season, though I do think that they would make satisfactory squad players and should be kept hold of for now.

Secondly, I never said that the players perform like Pele in training. I was merely stating the fact the Coppell sees these players everyday and you do not, making him better qualified to make team selections than you.

Finally, if a player cannot be bothered to put in the effort in training, or fails to impress, then he is unlikely to make the first team, regardless of how the 11 that play on a Saturday perform. What is the point in bringing a player that looks worse in training than what you've already got?

By all means, put your views forward on this board, but don't expect everyone to agree with them. Harper's not for you, but personally, I think that he's a battler and that's the type of player we need at the moment.

Oh and congratulations on being such a loyal royal.


Good post mate. If we take Harper out of the team we would have absolutely zero drive. It would be madness!

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Re: Team for Villa

by 79Royal » 15 Feb 2008 15:26

Fezza On the Harper front all I see is a lot of running around and passing sideways, In the years he has been at Reading I have never thought of him as a defensive or attacking option, which does I think bode the question as to why he is in the side (lack of alternatives accepted)?

At the moment we seem to be hanging on to a lot of very able Championship players, which I suppose is sensible given we may end up there, but, also unacceptable as a fan as we've had three transfer windows to sort it out.


I totally agree with your second paragraph.

As for Harper, well, I'm a fan of his. My case for the defense being that he is fairly comfortable on the ball, he's mobile, can run all day, can weigh in with his fair share of goals and is sensible with his passing. I think what has been lacking for Harper this season is a 'good fit' to play alongside him. His partnership with Sidwell worked, because he was able to offload to Sidwell who would get forward. This season, he's been paired with Gunnarsson, Fae and Cisse, all of whom are too similar to Harper.

That could all change now with Matejovsky. I think he's the sort of player that will complement Harps. I don't mind Harper passing sideways to Matejovsky, because Marek will be looking to create. With Gunnar, Fae or Cisse next to him, there's been no drive through the middle.

IMO, it's better to retain possesion, than hit a long ball that is likely to ome stariaght back at us. I think Harper is pretty good at this.

Is that fair comment?

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Re: Team for Villa

by Archie's penalty » 15 Feb 2008 15:31

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Fezza On the Harper front all I see is a lot of running around and passing sideways, In the years he has been at Reading I have never thought of him as a defensive or attacking option, which does I think bode the question as to why he is in the side (lack of alternatives accepted)?

At the moment we seem to be hanging on to a lot of very able Championship players, which I suppose is sensible given we may end up there, but, also unacceptable as a fan as we've had three transfer windows to sort it out.


I totally agree with your second paragraph.

As for Harper, well, I'm a fan of his. My case for the defense being that he is fairly comfortable on the ball, he's mobile, can run all day, can weigh in with his fair share of goals and is sensible with his passing. I think what has been lacking for Harper this season is a 'good fit' to play alongside him. His partnership with Sidwell worked, because he was able to offload to Sidwell who would get forward. This season, he's been paired with Gunnarsson, Fae and Cisse, all of whom are too similar to Harper.

That could all change now with Matejovsky. I think he's the sort of player that will complement Harps. I don't mind Harper passing sideways to Matejovsky, because Marek will be looking to create. With Gunnar, Fae or Cisse next to him, there's been no drive through the middle.

IMO, it's better to retain possesion, than hit a long ball that is likely to ome stariaght back at us. I think Harper is pretty good at this.

Is that fair comment?


Very apt post. Matejovsky will hopefully provide our midfield with the balance it needs. Fwiw I think the Cisse Sonko partnership may now blossom as well. If I'm right that's two of our most important problems areas this season resolved...

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Re: Team for Villa

by The Surgeon of Crowthorne » 15 Feb 2008 15:33

The problem I have with a centre mid pairing of Harper & Mateyboy is that neither of them can tackle. I like Harper a lot & on form he can control a game but if we're conceding a lot of possesion, neither he or Marek are capable of getting it back.

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