The Blame Poll

Who's to Blame??

Coppell
26
13%
Players
89
43%
Hammond
6
3%
Madjeski
16
8%
Fans
16
8%
Pitch
18
9%
Sh*t Refs
11
5%
Clappers
23
11%
 
Total votes: 205
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Re: The Blame Poll

by boy1985 » 15 May 2009 11:28

yuomi
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its a total missapropriation of the word though. its whose. you wouldnt put it in an essay because itd be wrong.


Sorry but you are wrong. I hate to defend the originator of the phrase used, but it certainly is not a place where whose is the right word. It should be written in full as who is and so, if you feel the need to abbreviate, the apostrophe is correct and who's will be quite reasonable.

However,
misappropriation is the right spelling. Sentences start with capitalised letter, and if you insist on adulterating the language do use an apostrophe - it'd (as in it would) and It's (as in it is), wouldn't as in would not).


my total and incongruous ignoring of punctuation to one side whose is considered by the OED to be a perfectly suitable and acceptable substitute for who is e.g. whose afraid of the big bad wolf? or whose got the car keys?. i'm not stressing the point that i'm right, i'm merely looking for clarification now. you are shaking the pillars of my linguistic foundation.

http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000268.htm

hth.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by yuomi » 15 May 2009 11:32

yep. they love me down at winnersh morris dancing club. i really tear it up. :wink:

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Archie's penalty » 15 May 2009 11:33

Emphatically the players then. Good. The b*stards let us down...

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Focher » 15 May 2009 11:33

i would put the Vast majority on Coppell for picking Michael Duberry. For me Duberry is the biggest contributer to the shite football we played after xmas.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by West Stand Man » 15 May 2009 11:46

yuomi
my total and incongruous ignoring of punctuation to one side whose is considered by the OED to be a perfectly suitable and acceptable substitute for who is e.g. whose afraid of the big bad wolf? or whose got the car keys?. i'm not stressing the point that i'm right, i'm merely looking for clarification now. you are shaking the pillars of my linguistic foundation.

http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000268.htm

hth.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by MartinRdg » 15 May 2009 11:55

yuomi
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yuomi
its a total missapropriation of the word though. its whose. you wouldnt put it in an essay because itd be wrong.


Sorry but you are wrong. I hate to defend the originator of the phrase used, but it certainly is not a place where whose is the right word. It should be written in full as who is and so, if you feel the need to abbreviate, the apostrophe is correct and who's will be quite reasonable.

However,
misappropriation is the right spelling. Sentences start with capitalised letter, and if you insist on adulterating the language do use an apostrophe - it'd (as in it would) and It's (as in it is), wouldn't as in would not).


my total and incongruous ignoring of punctuation to one side whose is considered by the OED to be a perfectly suitable and acceptable substitute for who is e.g. whose afraid of the big bad wolf? or whose got the car keys?. i'm not stressing the point that i'm right, i'm merely looking for clarification now. you are shaking the pillars of my linguistic foundation.

http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000268.htm

hth.

ah, the team board. where the really important debates go down.


You are still wrong though. Whose is not a perfectly suitable substitute for who is as your link showed. Whose is the possessive form and who's is the contraction of who is or who has.

htfh

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Re: The Blame Poll

by dellwoodboy » 15 May 2009 11:59

I wanted to put a half each in the Coppell and player boxes but had to settle for the former, because at the end of the day it all goes back to the manager the one person who makes the most decisions and let's face it he a lot of crap ones this season. Not forgetting the second half of last season.
I have previously said that we played with no luck at all this year but you make your own in life and football.Perhaps we used all ours up before Christmas.
From the games I have seen there is one area of play I reckon we have missed out big time and this has been mentioned previously in this discussion. HOW MANY GOALS DID WE SCORE THIS SEASON FROM 25 YARDS OR MORE ???? Can anyone tell me ? In the 14 games or so I saw I cannot remember one. We seem too scared to shoot from any sort of distance, and that must cost goals.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Terminal Boardom » 15 May 2009 12:01

Any chance we can blame this on MP's Expenses?

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Re: The Blame Poll

by westongeezer » 15 May 2009 12:08

Pupil fails balme, the teacher, fact, the blame lies soley at SSC feet.


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Re: The Blame Poll

by Man Friday » 15 May 2009 12:24

It's "who's" as in "who is".

Simple.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by retro royal » 15 May 2009 12:27

I blame the "peace cup" in korea, we went there to play some of the biggest clubs in the world and spent the whole time defending, not playing the "Reading way". After that we lost our formation, and could never get playing like we did for them two seasons.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Man Friday » 15 May 2009 12:28

Snowball
yuomi i want to blame fate. for its confluence of events that could not have been conceived or contrived by any sentient man or beast. that and the fact that the beer was even more watered down this season...




On that count, in the last game we lost to two outstanding (freakish?) goals

There was a goal of the season against us at Plymouth

There was another great run and shot from distance, Forest?

a very very good scissor kick v us for Ipswich

a keeper who had a blinder in the league 1-0 defeat at Burnley

The off-the-bar that doesn't result in a goal (for us) and a minute later a goal for them off the bar and then knocked in

Even the phantom goal worked against us. We were looking winners but the PG got Watford riled up

Seriously, have we been a tad unlucky this season?

I believe we have. We've also been the losers more times from key refereeing decisions than the benificiaries. Case in point on Tuesday with the decision not to send the goalkeeper off for deliberate handball outside the area to prevent a goal scoring opportunity. Still lost 2-0 would we? I don't think so.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by TommyF » 15 May 2009 12:32

Snowball Even the phantom goal worked against us. We were looking winners but the PG got Watford riled up

Seriously, have we been a tad unlucky this season?
I think it worked massively against us if you look at the clear cut penalty decisions that just weren't awarded. It felt like every ref we had after that wanted to correct the mistake


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Re: The Blame Poll

by boy1985 » 15 May 2009 12:38

dellwoodboy I wanted to put a half each in the Coppell and player boxes but had to settle for the former


Or you could have just voted for both of them...

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Re: The Blame Poll

by weybridgewanderer » 15 May 2009 12:40

yuomi its a total missapropriation of the word though. its whose. you wouldnt put it in an essay because itd be wrong.


when relacing "is" as in who is this "who's this" (indefinate aricle?)

whose would be used in the context "whose shoes are these" (definate article?) where "is" would be wholly inappropriate -"who is shoes are these" would be just stupid
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Re: The Blame Poll

by Ian Royal » 15 May 2009 12:40

Of course it's a combination of things but I'd put the major causes in this order

Players
Coppell
Pitch
Fans
Refs

Players being the major issue.

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Re: The Blame Poll

by crossie » 15 May 2009 12:43

Where's the option for God?

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Re: The Blame Poll

by boy1985 » 15 May 2009 12:48

crossie Where's the option for God?


use the clappers option for this

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Magicman » 15 May 2009 12:59

Where is the Carlos Tevez option?

If only Sheff Utd hadnt been relegated first season they could have gone instead of us second season meaning we wouldnt have been relegated until this season and all the other sides have been poor so anything could have happened

Otherwise maybe we should have just listed then in order of blame or maybe a top three

1. Players - Well its always there fault
2. The Manager - Just could turn it around
3. Sh*t Refs - They were worse than usual

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Re: The Blame Poll

by Maguire » 15 May 2009 13:00

Surely I can't be the only one to notice that the slide has taken place entirely within Barack Obama's presidency?

We've only won 5 out of 20 games since he was inaugurated, whereas we'd won 18 of 32 this season under George Bush.

All you simpletons who wanked yourselves silly over his election, now you get to see the grim reality of Obama's new world order.

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