The night of the long knives

[howser]

I find myself stuck between various opinions on here, yes we have a great bunch of young players with enormous potential and in Brenden Rodgers, someone who is going to be a great manager, I trust him completely to nurture, teach and bring the best out of them, the perfect man for the job !! . But we were in the Premiership not so long ago, with a first season that gave us "long term" supporters great hope for the future, we have crowds of a similar amount several in the top league, and they seem to survive without any threats of administration etc ........... we had the perfect base after the first Premiership season to move forward, but through December and January of the second year we were clearly struggling, and done nothing to stop the slide, and the inevitable happened , again last season, after receiving all the plaudits as the best team in the league early season, we again struggled after Christmas and similarly to the previous season we failed to capitalise on the good start, we bought in Little, never the same as he was first time around, and Kitson who, at the time, couldn't hit a horses ass with a barn door. We totally failed to build on our success of the first Pemiership year, so whose fault was that ? It wasnt just bad luck or have the unintelligent of those amongst us read the script totally wrong ?? I have been watching this club for more years than I care to remember, and had thought we had finally made it to the pinacle of our ambitions, but have been let down by some bad decisions, but by who ? that is a question that will never be answered. There is no doubt the exclusion of our 106 side was going to happen, probably not before time either, we have needed a good overhaul for a while now, so the moves over the past couple of weeks are, in my opinion, welcome, we seem to have a young vibrant side full of energy, ambition and determination. The ambition of the club will be seen if any of the younge lads start attracting the attentions of Premiership clubs, only then will it be completely possible to determine the future ambitions of the clubs owner and management.

[Deathy]

Prat. Look at the bigger picture! Huge wages, next summer no chute payments. We will be fine next summer as a result of the sales. Rodgers mean time can and is adding to the squad, being supported well in the market by the chairman, and all on a sensible wage structure once again. That is after all the main thing, unless of course you want to see us drop down the leagues with huge debts and points deductions for administration. We're in alright shape, have a side with some decent youngsters in it. We wont win promotion this season or next, probably, but so what? I'm more than happy with a young competitive squad in mid-table of this division!

Not one to ever accuse Jay of any plagiarism, but I pretty much wrote the same thing - oooh about 3 weeks ago.

We share a similar opinion, lets bond.

[Ian Royal]

Jesus man, have you never heard of paragraphs!? That's unreadable.

EDIT: A few more full stops wouldn't be amiss either. I give up.

[Royal Rother]

Don't worry, you've read it all hundreds of times before.

[leon]

Don't worry, you've read it all hundreds of times before.

clearly not, you bald twat.

I thought it was quite dispassionate and actually very fair. Suggest you read it again.

[winchester_royal]

I find myself stuck between various opinions on here, yes we have a great bunch of young players with enormous potential and in Brenden Rodgers, someone who is going to be a great manager, I trust him completely to nurture, teach and bring the best out of them, the perfect man for the job !! . But we were in the Premiership not so long ago, with a first season that gave us "long term" supporters great hope for the future, we have crowds of a similar amount several in the top league, and they seem to survive without any threats of administration etc ........... we had the perfect base after the first Premiership season to move forward, but through December and January of the second year we were clearly struggling, and done nothing to stop the slide, and the inevitable happened , again last season, after receiving all the plaudits as the best team in the league early season, we again struggled after Christmas and similarly to the previous season we failed to capitalise on the good start, we bought in Little, never the same as he was first time around, and Kitson who, at the time, couldn't hit a horses ass with a barn door. We totally failed to build on our success of the first Pemiership year, so whose fault was that ? It wasnt just bad luck or have the unintelligent of those amongst us read the script totally wrong ?? I have been watching this club for more years than I care to remember, and had thought we had finally made it to the pinacle of our ambitions, but have been let down by some bad decisions, but by who ? that is a question that will never be answered. There is no doubt the exclusion of our 106 side was going to happen, probably not before time either, we have needed a good overhaul for a while now, so the moves over the past couple of weeks are, in my opinion, welcome, we seem to have a young vibrant side full of energy, ambition and determination. The ambition of the club will be seen if any of the younge lads start attracting the attentions of Premiership clubs, only then will it be completely possible to determine the future ambitions of the clubs owner and management.

Note to Howser: Use Paragraphs.

[Challisman]

Oh bugger it, if you've supported Reading long enough you'll realise sh*t happens, god knows a lot of it when supporting this club over the years. What's done is done and there is not much point moaning about it as we can't do bugger all about it. I'm happy we still have a club and am surprisingly quite looking forward to this new regime of management and its youth. Yes it's been done relatively on the cheap but so what. We'll see what happens over the coming months and if it doesn't work out, then get your daggers out you moaning bunch of want, want, wants......

Probably the same bunch who moaned, moaned and moaned about shite signings such as doyle etc..... before they have even played a game for the club you supposedly support.

[prostak]

Where are these promises you talk of? Do we have a contract with the club to deliver on results?

Well to start off Madejski said on bbc berkshire we are expecting a new signing (Tommy Smith) by the end of the day (didnt happen coz yet again we fcuk around for 6 weeks with silly offers), then Rodgers said he can bring in 3 to 4 new players after signing Rasiak and Jobi, and what do we end up with a sheffield utd reject, a another centre back, only on loan till jan and a young player from chelsea who hasnt got any experience at this level. Fantasic.
[...]starting up my own business. Thanks again

I've read this a couple of times and still can't see where a promise has been broken. All I see is excessive negativity against players you haven't even seen play for us yet.

That's also the second time that I've seen you mention running your own business, and I don't exactly thoroughly read through this forum. This massive insecurity... the need to continually remind everyone of your status... You are Sir John and I demand my five pound.

[phil in cornwall]

I find myself stuck between various opinions on here. Yes we have a great bunch of young players with enormous potential and, in Brenden Rodgers, someone who is going to be a great manager. I trust him completely to nurture, teach and bring the best out of them, the perfect man for the job!

But we were in the Premiership not so long ago, with a first season that gave us "long term" supporters great hope for the future. We have crowds of a similar amount to several in the top league, and they seem to survive without any threats of administration etc ...........

We had the perfect base after the first Premiership season to move forward, but through December and January of the second year we were clearly struggling, nothing was done to stop the slide, and the inevitable happened.

Again last season, after receiving all the plaudits as the best team in the league early season, we again struggled after Christmas and, similarly to the previous season, we failed to capitalise on the good start. We brought in Little, never the same as he was first time around, and Kitson, who, at the time, couldn't hit a horse's ass with a barn door. We totally failed to build on our success of the first Pemiership year, so whose fault was that?

It wasnt just bad luck. Or have the unintelligent of those amongst us read the script totally wrong ??

I have been watching this club for more years than I care to remember, and had thought we had finally made it to the pinnacle of our ambitions, but have been let down by some bad decisions, but by whom? That is a question that will never be answered.

There is no doubt the exclusion of our 106 side was going to happen, probably not before time either. We have needed a good overhaul for a while now, so the moves over the past couple of weeks are, in my opinion, welcome.

We seem to have a young vibrant side full of energy, ambition and determination. The ambition of the club will be seen if any of the younge lads start attracting the attentions of Premiership clubs. Only then will it be completely possible to determine the future ambitions of the club's owner and management.

Note to Howser: Use Paragraphs.

Try again now.

I agree with howser.

[GJ79]

Where are these promises you talk of? Do we have a contract with the club to deliver on results?

Well to start off Madejski said on bbc berkshire we are expecting a new signing (Tommy Smith) by the end of the day (didnt happen coz yet again we fcuk around for 6 weeks with silly offers), then Rodgers said he can bring in 3 to 4 new players after signing Rasiak and Jobi, and what do we end up with a sheffield utd reject, a another centre back, only on loan till jan and a young player from chelsea who hasnt got any experience at this level. Fantasic.
[...]starting up my own business. Thanks again

I've read this a couple of times and still can't see where a promise has been broken. All I see is excessive negativity against players you haven't even seen play for us yet.

That's also the second time that I've seen you mention running your own business, and I don't exactly thoroughly read through this forum. This massive insecurity... the need to continually remind everyone of your status... You are Sir John and I demand my five pound.

Lol yeah tbh m8 i think that im very insecurce think ive metioned the business twice in total, damn it why am i so insecurce. I'll be round with your £5 asap just got to warm up the bentley, damn it the oxf*rd wont get into gear.

[phil in cornwall]

Sounds like you're insecursed.

[Royal Rother]

Don't worry, you've read it all hundreds of times before.

clearly not, you bald twat.

I thought it was quite dispassionate and actually very fair. Suggest you read it again.

How's the head this morning?

[Stranded]

This is the strangest night RFC has had since I started supporting the club.

Something must be really wrong with the finances at the club. Obviously we must have completely knackered ourselves with the wage bill last year.

I look forward with trepidation to the release of the finance figures.

They are taking an awful long time to get them looking the way they want us to see them!

Anyone who claims they won't paint the picture (paintings tend to be how the artist wants to portray things as opposed to a perfect likeness of reality) that the club want us to see clearly has never met any good business accountants! All, of course, will be done within the law.

This post shows why they really shouldn't bother. People have entrenched opinions about where the money has gone and even if the club put something out in black and white those whose point of view it disagree's with will say it's been painted to portray it that way and isn't a clear picture.

[Ian Royal]

The thing I can't understand is how soomeone can prefer their unfounded bias to the actual accounts. No matter that they may not be the completely full picture or 100% reflective of the realities.

It's still hard figures and better than a cobweb of fairy dust nonsense!

[Royal Rother]

When it comes to this subject Royal Blue is a totally ignorant numpty - ignore him.

[Nick Shorey my Lord!]

we where promised so much

W(h)ere we? Where are these promises you talk of? Do we have a contract with the club to deliver on results?

Well to start off Madejski said on bbc berkshire we are expecting a new signing (Tommy Smith) by the end of the day (didnt happen coz yet again we fcuk around for 6 weeks with silly offers), then Rodgers said he can bring in 3 to 4 new players after signing Rasiak and Jobi, and what do we end up with a sheffield utd reject, a another centre back, only on loan till jan and a young player from chelsea who hasnt got any experience at this level. Fantasic.

And thanks for the grammer lessons Nick Shorey my Lord, if only i had u to show me the way when i was at school then i might have found out im dsyletic and might have done better at school and now i might have been doing an 9 till 5 office job instead of starting up my own business. Thanks again

And breathe....

In the grand scheme of things does it really matter we've not got the player? Shit like this happens to all clubs. Who's to say he'd been any good with us anyway?

Also, have a think about some of the stuff you've said. With your logic, any player that leaves a club is a "reject", we have too many centre backs (not true of course), loan players are no good because they don't play for the cause (cough, cough, Matthew Upson anyone?) and don't bother buying any players that haven't got any experience in the league you play, regardless if the club they come from happens to be above your own. Oh, and as a young player how exactly do you get experience? By playing games...

Good luck with your business venture. Whatever you choose to do, do the exact opposite of what you think and you'll do well.

[Ian Royal]

When it comes to this subject Royal Blue is a totally ignorant numpty - ignore him.

I'm not saying he's right and they are manipulated, but IF they are, they aren't just complete fabrications, they still have to be based on something, which is more evidence, even manipulated than the "Where's the money gone?" brigade can muscle up with their prejudiced drivel.

[The Cap]

moo wrote:

Lets put our faith in Rogers, he is obviously building a squad he feels is the correct fit, and lets face it Harper and Rosenior cant rely on experience and past form alone. People knocked Coppell for his loyalty and nostalegia, Rogers is showing fearlessness to build the club he wants.

Not forgetting his hotline to the 'special one'.

[leon]

Don't worry, you've read it all hundreds of times before.

clearly not, you bald twat.

I thought it was quite dispassionate and actually very fair. Suggest you read it again.

How's the head this morning?

great! got up , took the eldest to nursery and then pointed the front wall brickwork. Looks magic. Bruce Lee'd the missus. I love being on holiday...

Anyway - you're wrong about stuff, etc