Next 23 Games - points compared to 2008/9 team

[Royal Rother]

Do you think this new squad will get more or less points in the next 23 games than the points accumulated in the last 23 games of Coppell's team?

Ignore the 1st 5 games of the season, the ongoing discussion that inspired this poll is about the merits of Rodgers' new look post-deadline day squad -v- Coppell's last squad.

[Arnie_Pie]

How many points did they get?

[i_kingsley]

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What a crap post

[North Eaat royal]

If you asked me if BR's team would get more or less points up to Christmas i'd say less

but if you then said from christmas to the end of the season i'd say more

[cmonurz]

If I added it correctly, Coppell's team got 31 points (W7 D10 L6).

I've no idea, on the poll question, as we've never seen Rodgers post-deadline team play.

I'll guess I'll plump for less than 31 points, as I don't yet know we have the quality to really compete in this division.

[krisholland]

Quite unlikely we get more points and if we are safe mid-table after 23 games I would be more than pleased, considering the changes the team has gone through.

Edit:Just read that it was compared to Coppell`s last 23 games.
Well, I hope so, otherwise we`re in serious trouble and probably looking for a new manager.

[Archies Volley II]

More I reckon

[Sarah Star]

More.

I reckon after a few losses and draws, we'll go on a winning streak at the end of October which will propel us through to December after which we'll slump again...but that's another thread.

[Ian Royal]

Ask the question will Rodger's team record more points in it's first 23 games than Coppell's did in it's first 23 games... No chance.

I don't like this comparing one section of a season to a different section of another season. I wanna compare like for like.

Do I think Rodger's team will get more points in its last 23 games of the season than Coppell's did in its last 23? Yes.I think we'll see a total somewhere between 68 and 50 for the whole season. If I have to pick a single total, I'll go 59

[Dirk Gently]

Where's the option "Rodgers's team will get FEWER points"?

[Royal Rother]

The reason for asking the question is that there seem to be a decent percentage of our supporters disillusioned with the fact that Rodgers has effectively broken up Coppell's side and sneering at the suggestions that this young transitional team could possibly do as well as Coppell's.

Well no, they won't match 106 points, but that is irrelevant and certainly not what they should be compared to at this stage.

Coppell's team was a fading force - it accumulated 31 points (if figures quoted above are correct) in its last 23 games (a pretty decent sample size) so for us to assess whether progress has been made as a result of Rodgers' activities in the transfer market it seems reasonable to look at how many points are gained in the next 23 games.

Don't try to make it complicated, the question is really very simple.

(I really don't need a statistician to point out the flaws in the statements above, it's just a bit of fun that will hopefully illustrate how easy it is to find progress in what is happening if you are prepared to open your mind to and look for it...)

Fingers crossed.

[winchester_royal]

The reason for asking the question is that there seem to be a decent percentage of our supporters disillusioned with the fact that Rodgers has effectively broken up Coppell's side and sneering at the suggestions that this young transitional team could possibly do as well as Coppell's.

Well no, they won't match 106 points, but that is irrelevant and certainly not what they should be compared to at this stage.

Coppell's team was a fading force - it accumulated 31 points (if figures quoted above are correct) in its last 23 games (a pretty decent sample size) so for us to assess whether progress has been made as a result of Rodgers' activities in the transfer market it seems reasonable to look at how many points are gained in the next 23 games.

Don't try to make it complicated, the question is really very simple.

(I really don't need a statistician to point out the flaws in the statements above, it's just a bit of fun that will hopefully illustrate how easy it is to find progress in what is happening if you are prepared to open your mind to and look for it...)

Fingers crossed.

Regardless of whether or not we get more points, it will be a damn sight more intersting (and probably enjoyable) to watch as supporters.

[Ian Royal]

The reason for asking the question is that there seem to be a decent percentage of our supporters disillusioned with the fact that Rodgers has effectively broken up Coppell's side and sneering at the suggestions that this young transitional team could possibly do as well as Coppell's.

Well no, they won't match 106 points, but that is irrelevant and certainly not what they should be compared to at this stage.

Coppell's team was a fading force - it accumulated 31 points (if figures quoted above are correct) in its last 23 games (a pretty decent sample size) so for us to assess whether progress has been made as a result of Rodgers' activities in the transfer market it seems reasonable to look at how many points are gained in the next 23 games.

Don't try to make it complicated, the question is really very simple.

(I really don't need a statistician to point out the flaws in the statements above, it's just a bit of fun that will hopefully illustrate how easy it is to find progress in what is happening if you are prepared to open your mind to and look for it...)

Fingers crossed.

Sorry, but you can't just snip off the first 5 if you are going to compare early season to late season. You're getting into the realms of snowball selective sampling there IMO. I don't care if Rodger's said those 5 games were still part of our preseason. That's his problem for not getting ready in time for the start of the season.

[Royal Rother]

Ian, change your approach - this is not sophisticated statistical analysis chap!!

On other threads people are saying that, having shipped out most of Coppell's established players, and now brought "his own" players in, the squad we have now is weaker than the one we had at the end of last season.

I maintain it is not and thought it would be a vaguely amusing diversion to see what others think and to measure it as the season progresses.

To include the 1st 5 games of this season, i.e. BEFORE those squad changes had been made would make the exercise even more futile / irrelevant than it already is.

[CMRoyal]

Do you think this new squad will get more or less points in the next 23 games than the points accumulated in the last 23 games of Coppell's team?

Ignore the 1st 5 games of the season, the ongoing discussion that inspired this poll is about the merits of Rodgers' new look post-deadline day squad -v- Coppell's last squad.

SC didn't really do much in the January transfer window so isn't it better to compare the final 41 games of last season with the final 41 games of this one?

[Sun Tzu]

Sorry, but you can't just snip off the first 5 if you are going to compare early season to late season. You're getting into the realms of snowball selective sampling there IMO. I don't care if Rodger's said those 5 games were still part of our preseason. That's his problem for not getting ready in time for the start of the season.

Of course you can, this is a football discussion board, not the Office of Statistics !!

Seems pretty sensible to remove obvious anomalies when looking at stats anyway. Coppell had several years to build his team and half a season last season so to allow Rodgers a tiny number of games to find a bit of form is hardly skewing the results !

[Royal Rother]

Do you think this new squad will get more or less points in the next 23 games than the points accumulated in the last 23 games of Coppell's team?

Ignore the 1st 5 games of the season, the ongoing discussion that inspired this poll is about the merits of Rodgers' new look post-deadline day squad -v- Coppell's last squad.

SC didn't really do much in the January transfer window so isn't it better to compare the final 41 games of last season with the final 41 games of this one?

You can compare whatever you want - I've chosen to compare the next 23 games etc...

[Gordons Cumming]

23 games?

40 points is much prediction.

We'll be fine.

[CMRoyal]

Do you think this new squad will get more or less points in the next 23 games than the points accumulated in the last 23 games of Coppell's team?

Ignore the 1st 5 games of the season, the ongoing discussion that inspired this poll is about the merits of Rodgers' new look post-deadline day squad -v- Coppell's last squad.

SC didn't really do much in the January transfer window so isn't it better to compare the final 41 games of last season with the final 41 games of this one?

You can compare whatever you want - I've chosen to compare the next 23 games etc...

OK, fair enough. I think BR's team will get far fewer points over the next 41 games than SC's squad did over their final 41 games, although I don't really care what proportion we get in the next 23 so long as it's enough ultimately to keep us up.

[Snowball]

Ian, change your approach - this is not sophisticated statistical analysis chap!!
On other threads people are saying that, having shipped out most of Coppell's established players, and now brought "his own" players in, the squad we have now is weaker than the one we had at the end of last season.
I maintain it is not and thought it would be a vaguely amusing diversion to see what others think and to measure it as the season progresses.
To include the 1st 5 games of this season, i.e. BEFORE those squad changes had been made would make the exercise even more futile / irrelevant than it already is.

Agreed. I'll be shocked if we don't average better than 1.5 points a game = 35 points from 23

I actually think we'll do a little better than that.

The question is, did the run start with the win at Barnsley or will it kick in around game 8/9/10?

I'll be brave and predict 40 points from the next 23 games. I really like the look of this squad
and for me the only "miss" is Doyle.



Incidentally, did I imagine it but hasn't Rodgers already improved Kebe? The cross for Noel's second was early and in a great spot.

If that wasn't an accident, if Rodgers really can work his magic this quick, the future is VERY bright.