Sheff Wed View

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Goddam you Mr Optimist that's what I was going to say!

[Dirk Gently]

In which case, how long before Sir Alex cries "appeal" as three opposition attackers break towards Van de Sarr's goal?

And how long before a shot is cleared off team A's goalline, and they go up the other end and score a stunning goal - and then the reply shows that the initial shot was a goal to team B so everything that happened after then (including the goal that team A are still celebrating) officially never happened.

[Terminal Boardom]

Argh!

The whole nature of the game will change if you have stops while someone looks at a video.

A definite "yes" to an instant notification of "line decisions" which are all objective, but for fouls and handballs where it's all subjective (e.g. intentional or not?) there's nothing to be gained from stopping and waiting.

As in cricket and both codes of rugby, the referee can always ask why he should NOT make a certain decision. If the video ref is monitoring at the time the turn around for a decision would be minimal.

[russyb]

this really made me chuckle

http://owlsalive.com/483.html

[paultheroyal]

Dirk on this one is right. Video replays will not happen in football, closest you will come is goaline technology.

[Upper West Ginger]

this really made me chuckle

http://owlsalive.com/483.html

Comedy genius - well worth the read.

[Rex]

Reading seemed to be attacking a lot, we gave away free kicks a lot and corners a lot and they kept putting the ball in the box….a lot….by the end of the game though, they’d stopped fookin about with all that fancy poncey stuff and just put the ball in the net…A LOT!

Best back from the game comments.

[Royalshow]

Walking back to the car and and I can’t get that fookin Sky Darts music out of me fookin head…they play it after a goal at Reading which means we’ve had it banging out most of the day…Bollocks! ..... and the stuff about tailpipes!

[Arch]

I have to say that is absolutely brilliant. And credit to the guy for recognizing our no-name group of players. He clearly knows his football.

[Rawlie19]

In which case, how long before Sir Alex cries "appeal" as three opposition attackers break towards Van de Sarr's goal?

Wouldn't make a difference, you can't appeal unless a decision has been made (i.e. GOAL! or OFFSIDE!), and Alex doesn't have the authority anyway.

And how long before a shot is cleared off team A's goalline, and they go up the other end and score a stunning goal - and then the reply shows that the initial shot was a goal to team B so everything that happened after then (including the goal that team A are still celebrating) officially never happened.

What's wrong with that? If the decision for goal A was wrong then goal B SHOULDN'T have happened. Not sure I follow your argument there.

However, you are right, it will never happen.

[1960]

At the weekend England scored a try which must have taken 3 or 4 minutes to decide one way or the other. But the ball was dead. Tell me how football would be if we had to wait 3 or 4 minutes for a decision, as the video ref looks at it from all the possible angles, with the ball live. Goal-line Hawkeye-type stuff maybe, but otherwise totally unworkable.

There is also the point that FIFA want all football to be played by the same rules, i.e. 22 players, a ref and two linesmen. As soon as you bring technology in, the game is different for pros and amateurs. At what level do you make the break? Conference? Ryman? Spartan? Reading Bedding Sunday League Division 2?

[Wimb]

this really made me chuckle

http://owlsalive.com/483.html

Comedy genius - well worth the read.

That's brilliant

[toppy]

this really made me chuckle

http://owlsalive.com/483.html

Comedy genius - well worth the read.

You just have to smile as you read it. As other have said he really knows his stuff.

[oiht]

Very interesting that Tim Dellor divides opinion so much. I, for one, enjoy his commentaries. He pretty much calls it as he sees it. I wonder if the antipathy towards him is nothing short of snobbery. Just because he went to Bradfield College does not necessarily make him a cock! And his wife is not too shabby either

I used to like T.D until this season, then he did nothing but moan. I stopped listening when he complained about having to drive 200 miles to watch Royals lose at Sheff U and "listen to stupid comments" from some Reading fans, the same fans who are paying his wages!! All through the game he was prattling on about how he was flying up to Scotland after the game for some jolly. I have to thank him though because during his rant at "stupid Reading fans" he advised anyone who didn't like it to "clear off and listen to another radio station", so I did and Reading107's match commentaries are so much better.

[Gav]

"In the last few minutes Reading brought a player off and played with 10 men…Salop said, ‘are they gonna take one off every 10 minutes till we score?’"

[SpaceCruiser]

One look at Reading’s home record prior to this weekend’s fixture should have suggested a presentable opportunity to pick up some much needed points:

Played 14, Wins 3, Draws 6, Defeats 5, Goals scored 12, Goals conceded 17.

In those 14 games Reading had not scored more than two goals on any occasion and so to lose 5-0 to a club that has such a poor record and is potentially a rival for a relegation spot is nothing short of disgraceful. [Etc]

Those numbers lie, which I think we around here all sorta knew going in, but if it's the basis of this guy's argument --that his boys got destroyed by a bad side with a poor home record, and who could've predicted that?-- then he needs to get out and see some football

How many opposing managers --a good few victorious ones not least among them-- are on record this season having said words to the effect of "I cannot for the life of me see how Reading are a bottom three side" and something about how "they [RFC] create plenty of chances, and once they start putting them away with any consistency at all, look out"

If anything, I think that yesterday's outcome, and not least in its dramatic makeover at one clout of our season's goal-difference, went some way toward bringing stats into line with the overall quality of the side (and by that I don't speak in terms of potential, but rather of performance, and indeed over the 32 league matches now in the book)

I understand that the guy's not happy, nor should he be (and I've got a bit of a soft spot for his club myself), and it's quite proper to look for answers, but let's be real --absolutely nothing that our guys have pulled off since the calendar flipped to 2010 has come as any sort of stunning surprise to me; at no time have I felt like some sort of witness to the impossible, and least of all as that hammering got put on a pretty bad Wednesday outfit yesterday afternoon

You are right. He has also ignored the fact that since McDermott has taken over, his team have not lost a home game...yet. Touch wood.

[Wimb]

Very interesting that Tim Dellor divides opinion so much. I, for one, enjoy his commentaries. He pretty much calls it as he sees it. I wonder if the antipathy towards him is nothing short of snobbery. Just because he went to Bradfield College does not necessarily make him a cock! And his wife is not too shabby either

I used to like T.D until this season, then he did nothing but moan. I stopped listening when he complained about having to drive 200 miles to watch Royals lose at Sheff U and "listen to stupid comments" from some Reading fans, the same fans who are paying his wages!! All through the game he was prattling on about how he was flying up to Scotland after the game for some jolly. I have to thank him though because during his rant at "stupid Reading fans" he advised anyone who didn't like it to "clear off and listen to another radio station", so I did and Reading107's match commentaries are so much better.

Tim Dellor is always going to divide opinion but the fact is he has probably watched more games and has more knowledge about the clubs inner workings then most. That doesn't mean to say he doesn't make the odd comment that baffles me, but then I don't think I've ever agreed 100% with any football analyst ever.

Also it's worth bearing in mind the fact that BBCRB's target audience isn't just your typical 'southbank' style fan. It's for families, older people and in a nutshell, has to be accessible for everyone, that's what they're paid to do. Reading 107 on the other hand can target who they want when they want so can pick a style of their choosing.

By and large with the resources at their disposal the station does well, sure there are things it could do better but I think it compares well with any other local radio station I've heard.

[rhroyal]

I was driving home from Leeds on Saturday afternoon and was listening to the whole of the first half (and the build up) on BBC Radio Sheffield. From the sound of it Reading completely dominated the first half. The commentator seemed to really rate Reading.

Interestingly (to me, anyway), they spoke about Reading as a "big team".

BTW, the commentary was far superior to ours [although the co-commentators (ex Wednesday players) were abysmal]. Opposite to us where the commentator is awful but the co is very good.

Very interesting that Tim Dellor divides opinion so much. I, for one, enjoy his commentaries. He pretty much calls it as he sees it. I wonder if the antipathy towards him is nothing short of snobbery. Just because he went to Bradfield College does not necessarily make him a cock! And his wife is not too shabby either

Tim Dellor is the most biased, unprofessional commentator ever. I love him to bits!

[Dirk Gently]

Tim Dellor is always going to divide opinion but the fact is he has probably watched more games and has more knowledge about the clubs inner workings then most. That doesn't mean to say he doesn't make the odd comment that baffles me, but then I don't think I've ever agreed 100% with any football analyst ever.

Also it's worth bearing in mind the fact that BBCRB's target audience isn't just your typical 'southbank' style fan. It's for families, older people and in a nutshell, has to be accessible for everyone, that's what they're paid to do. Reading 107 on the other hand can target who they want when they want so can pick a style of their choosing.

By and large with the resources at their disposal the station does well, sure there are things it could do better but I think it compares well with any other local radio station I've heard.

Hmmmm, I'd agree that he watches lots of matches and knows about what's going on with the playing side - but I'm afraid when it comes to the financial side of football, how it's run and what goes on in the background he's pretty clueless. And that does cause some problems because when he sounds off to his audience many of them believe him.

[brendywendy]

or you could say he is a good approximation of teh average reading fan