Mills to Leicester 5 Million

[Uke]

if we had a wide and loyal fan base we could do it
but you only had to see the moaning, and talk of not renewing season tickets last year when we looked like wed finish midtable to see that we dont have that at all.
we may have had some extra money, but JM had to reduce season ticket prices by so much, just to maintain a 2/3 full ground.

Agreed. We don't have the big fanbase, which makes the work of the commercial department even more vital.
But you have to give those in that department some ammunition to work with.
I think that some of you on here cant see that whilst we supporters (on this site particularly) can bathe in the sunshine of having a well run club, however, most of the corporates probably have the similar take on things to some of the ignoramuses who actually think that all the money is going down the back of JM's sofa.
The truth is that these companies/sponsors/advertisers aren't doing what they do for the benefit of the club, they are doing it for their own benefit. They want their brand exposure. They want to entertain their clients, and meet Wayne Rooney in the lounge after the match.
I suspect that there are Chang executives still scratching their head as to why they still can't find the city of Everton on the UK map

Shirt sponsorship deals are around 100k. Do the maths again and compare that to one transfer fee that makes us 3 million...

I would rather we do what's for the benefit of the club, not what's for the benefit of transient Sponsors

[Avon Royal]

We were one of the first of the smaller clubs to get a new stadium.

We were one of the first of the smaller clubs to invest in a proper Academy.

We are now reaping the rewards of those investments.

Other less well run clubs gamble huge sums of money on players that they don't really have just to compete with us.

Whatever the ineffectiveness of the penalties for financial mismanagement, the benefits our approach give rise to will continue to rack up over the next few years as new regulations on wages kick in and as the economic cutbacks have a deeper effect on people's disposable income.

Wigan were one of the first of the smaller clubs to get a new stadium.

Wigan invested in an academy.

Wigan invested in their team.

Wigan are now reaping the rewards of those investments.

Wigan chased a dream supported by 1 man's money. And that situation remains pretty much unchanged today.

What happens if Mr Whelan decides to get out in 3 years time?

There's no self-sufficiency there. No legacy.

What happens if SJM gets out in 3 years time?

Business as usual, that's what.

Come on. You've made some good points, but nobody can seriously suggest that Dave Whelan will have left no legacy at Wigan........

[Madstad to Nadderud]

A good bit of business for a player who was often suspended due to a habit of picking up yellow cards.

[brendywendy]

he may well have- but at huge personal cost to himself.and without growing th efanbase of his club at all. their gates are attricious. embarrassing. teh club is totally financed by whelans will to literally throw millions of pound down th edrain, with no real wish to see it recouped.

find me another owner like that who likes reading and wants to invest in us, and you may have a point.

[under the tin]

if we had a wide and loyal fan base we could do it
but you only had to see the moaning, and talk of not renewing season tickets last year when we looked like wed finish midtable to see that we dont have that at all.
we may have had some extra money, but JM had to reduce season ticket prices by so much, just to maintain a 2/3 full ground.

Agreed. We don't have the big fanbase, which makes the work of the commercial department even more vital.
But you have to give those in that department some ammunition to work with.
I think that some of you on here cant see that whilst we supporters (on this site particularly) can bathe in the sunshine of having a well run club, however, most of the corporates probably have the similar take on things to some of the ignoramuses who actually think that all the money is going down the back of JM's sofa.
The truth is that these companies/sponsors/advertisers aren't doing what they do for the benefit of the club, they are doing it for their own benefit. They want their brand exposure. They want to entertain their clients, and meet Wayne Rooney in the lounge after the match.
I suspect that there are Chang executives still scratching their head as to why they still can't find the city of Everton on the UK map

Shirt sponsorship deals are around 100k. Do the maths again and compare that to one transfer fee that makes us 3 million...

I would rather we do what's for the benefit of the club, not what's for the benefit of transient Sponsors

The value of the shirt deal hinges on how the sponsor views the club.
Barcelona can charge what they like.
Reading hiked the price of the exec boxes when we were in the Prem.
They still all sold.

[Avon Royal]

. teh club is totally financed by whelans will to literally throw millions of pound down th edrain, with no real wish to see it recouped.

He is a fan.

All real fans throw away a proportion of their finances supporting their team, with no real wish to see it recouped.

[Uke]

The value of the shirt deal hinges on how the sponsor views the club.
Barcelona can charge what they like.
Reading hiked the price of the exec boxes when we were in the Prem.
They still all sold.

There are only a few teams who can be Barca's and it takes a long, long time

How much profit did the boxes make though? After operating costs

[brendywendy]

. teh club is totally financed by whelans will to literally throw millions of pound down th edrain, with no real wish to see it recouped.

He is a fan.

All real fans throw away a proportion of their finances supporting their team, with no real wish to see it recouped.

brilliant- do you know of any fans who want to spend more money on the club, not less?

i dont

[under the tin]

The value of the shirt deal hinges on how the sponsor views the club.
Barcelona can charge what they like.
Reading hiked the price of the exec boxes when we were in the Prem.
They still all sold.

There are only a few teams who can be Barca's and it takes a long, long time

How much profit did the boxes make though? After operating costs

The fact remains that all the while that we struggle to fill our stadium, we need the transient business. I don't see too much of a difference between the transient business customers, and the glory hunting transient fan.
For me, the real maths is one suit, munching prawn sandwiches brings in the same amount of money to the club as 2 or 3 people sat in the East stand

[tee peg]

if we had a wide and loyal fan base we could do it
but you only had to see the moaning, and talk of not renewing season tickets last year when we looked like wed finish midtable to see that we dont have that at all.
we may have had some extra money, but JM had to reduce season ticket prices by so much, just to maintain a 2/3 full ground.

Agreed. We don't have the big fanbase, which makes the work of the commercial department even more vital.
But you have to give those in that department some ammunition to work with.
I think that some of you on here cant see that whilst we supporters (on this site particularly) can bathe in the sunshine of having a well run club, however, most of the corporates probably have the similar take on things to some of the ignoramuses who actually think that all the money is going down the back of JM's sofa.
The truth is that these companies/sponsors/advertisers aren't doing what they do for the benefit of the club, they are doing it for their own benefit. They want their brand exposure. They want to entertain their clients, and meet Wayne Rooney in the lounge after the match.
I suspect that there are Chang executives still scratching their head as to why they still can't find the city of Everton on the UK map

Not true of all of us.some of us would rather give it to the club than the fcking taxman

[Uke]

The value of the shirt deal hinges on how the sponsor views the club.
Barcelona can charge what they like.
Reading hiked the price of the exec boxes when we were in the Prem.
They still all sold.

There are only a few teams who can be Barca's and it takes a long, long time

How much profit did the boxes make though? After operating costs

The fact remains that all the while that we struggle to fill our stadium, we need the transient business. I don't see too much of a difference between the transient business customers, and the glory hunting transient fan.
For me, the real maths is one suit, munching prawn sandwiches brings in the same amount of money to the club as 2 or 3 people sat in the East stand

But one player for 2000000 profit is the entire East Stand

[DOYLERSAROYALER]

Puts the Mills fee into perspective....Wes Brown joined Sunderland for £1m ....ok he's not very good but he's out of the Man U stable.....John Oshea was the same fee as Mills ....so we got a blinding deal there tbh

[ZacNaloen]

Not true of all of us.some of us would rather give it to the club than the fcking taxman

You aren't suggesting that Mr Whelan throwing his money at Wigan is some convoluted tax avoidance scam are you?


... I'd get your lawyer ready mate.

[Reading777]

Just as I thought this debt ridden game driven by "greed and sky" couldn't get any crazier a fellow Championship Club clamber out of the woodwork to offer a £5m fee for an average to decent (on his day at best) tier 2 player with just 1 year left on his contract!!

Great Business/PR/etc Hammond!! - forget the £90m estimated premiership payments for promotion, at this rate were be making that in tier 2 just from buying and selling, less the high tier 1 opperating costs - the surreal world that is ........................

Finally, a special congratulations to Sven, you certainly have the midas touch in persuading backers to spend big! Bit of advice though, you really need to scout more than just cup and play-off games live on sky to get a true and rounded view of your potential aquisition.

Mills was at Man City when Sven was manager there, and Sven says in his interview that he saw the potential at that stage ....make of that what you will

Yes I saw Sven's comment following the signing, he probably convinced the Leicester board to stump up the cash based on his hindsight spin - The most important thing is he's talked them into giving us 5m

[Uke]

Yes I saw Sven's comment following the signing, he probably convinced the Leicester board to stump up the cash based on his hindsight spin - The most important thing is he's talked them into giving us 5m

He probably has fond memories of his time spent in Berkshire's former beauty spots

[brendywendy]

i for one am more upset about not being able to see matts missus at games, than i am about matt himself

[Royal Rother]

Wigan were one of the first of the smaller clubs to get a new stadium.

Wigan invested in an academy.

Wigan invested in their team.

Wigan are now reaping the rewards of those investments.

Wigan chased a dream supported by 1 man's money. And that situation remains pretty much unchanged today.

What happens if Mr Whelan decides to get out in 3 years time?

There's no self-sufficiency there. No legacy.

What happens if SJM gets out in 3 years time?

Business as usual, that's what.

Come on. You've made some good points, but nobody can seriously suggest that Dave Whelan will have left no legacy at Wigan........

If the club isn't financially independent of his money when he goes then it cannot possibly survive in the PL.

If they get relegated their gates and all-round income will plummet and they will find it extremely difficult to survive in the Championship.

Within 5 years I suspect they'd be back down in League 2.

Not much of a legacy imo.

OTH maybe Whelan will keep doing this until the day he dies and then leave whatever is left to the football club in which case they'd be ok for another decade or so.

Whatever, this "ambition" shown by Whelan, so coveted by RFC fans, is producing nothing more than a great buzz for him (fair play there!!) and their few thousand fans. There can be no lasting legacy at Wigan FC.

[sandman]

Just as I thought this debt ridden game driven by "greed and sky" couldn't get any crazier a fellow Championship Club clamber out of the woodwork to offer a £5m fee for an average to decent (on his day at best) tier 2 player with just 1 year left on his contract!!

Great Business/PR/etc Hammond!! - forget the £90m estimated premiership payments for promotion, at this rate were be making that in tier 2 just from buying and selling, less the high tier 1 opperating costs - the surreal world that is ........................

Finally, a special congratulations to Sven, you certainly have the midas touch in persuading backers to spend big! Bit of advice though, you really need to scout more than just cup and play-off games live on sky to get a true and rounded view of your potential aquisition.

Mills was at Man City when Sven was manager there, and Sven says in his interview that he saw the potential at that stage ....make of that what you will

Yes I saw Sven's comment following the signing, he probably convinced the Leicester board to stump up the cash based on his hindsight spin - The most important thing is he's talked them into giving us 5m

He's given us an INITIAL 4.5 Million which according to our manager we can't use to sign players. Players that we desperately need because we've only got two centre-backs (one of whom who has never played at this level).

[Reading777]

Yes I saw Sven's comment following the signing, he probably convinced the Leicester board to stump up the cash based on his hindsight spin - The most important thing is he's talked them into giving us 5m

He probably has fond memories of his time spent in Berkshire's former beauty spots

Yes Sven's definitely feeling the love for this area... Would it be pushing it if the club sold him a box at the Madstad for old time sake?

[loyalroyal4life]

great to see EP reporting none of the money from the sale will be invested for new players, silly me for thinking otherwise