Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by facaldaqui » 12 Jul 2011 15:40

brendywendy im nlot saying this is the plan- id hope/expect us to replace mills, but surely the idea that we go into the season with pearce, morrison, harte, and bryn as our CBs, and then only replace a long term injury with loans bewteen now and jan isnt actually that bad


Is Harte a centre back option, though? Who would play at left back? Cummings could get away with it, but Brian doesn't seem to fancy Williams. If Harte is to be a back up for centre back, we need to get another proper left back in.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 12 Jul 2011 15:42

agree- i think we need a new LB anyway- im just saying that going in with 2 regular CBs, and two adequate back ups is ok, given we have loans, and another window in jan.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by cmonurz » 12 Jul 2011 15:48

Platypuss Yes- with our first game only tomorrow I'm really worried.



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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by royal67 » 12 Jul 2011 16:23

Mr Angry WHAT!!!! We only have 2 centre-halves!!! OMG - does the club know this???

Thank the Lord that we have some smart cookies on this board to point out these failings to the club!



Now, now........ Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit you know......... :D

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by royal67 » 12 Jul 2011 16:26

Woodcote Royal No..........................which is why I'm delighted that we have at least 3 plus Gunnarsson.....................................who played there against those footballing minnows at Man City where we tanked 1-0.

Reading fan in starting nonsense thread shocker!!!



I sense a lot of anger in your post....... :wink: Gunnarsson isn't a specialist centre back is he ?? In my opinion we need a bit more cover ......


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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by RoyalBlue » 12 Jul 2011 16:56

WoodleyRoyal Of course Brian will get some of the mills money, do you honestly think that when asked the question, he was going to say yes we have 2-3 mill to put back in? Every player we look at will have their price inflated by their clubs... he is just playing the game :roll:


It's a ridiculous game to play because no one is stupid enough to fall for it. Clubs will continue to ask for what they believe that their player is worth in the market and if RFC say they can't afford it because our nasty chairman took all the Mills' proceeds - tough!

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 12 Jul 2011 17:06

ill take the clubs, and BMcDs perspective over yours any day though

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by andrew1957 » 12 Jul 2011 17:36

Brian McD has already publicly stated that we will buy at least one more CB (BBCRB on Friday evening) - the only question is whether or not that CB will be of sufficient quality.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by Ian Royal » 12 Jul 2011 18:12

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Platypuss Yes- with our first game only tomorrow I'm really worried.




You aren't normally this much of a dick Cmonurz. Look back at when we've replaced players who've left successfully in the past. Does it get done in 3 working days?

No of course it doesn't.


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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by cmonurz » 12 Jul 2011 18:19

Unfortunately Ian it is all to normal for you to call someone a dick for expressing an opinion, albeit sarcastically.

This club has one recognised centre-back, which this board spent half of last season slagging off. Pearce has the turning circle of a Bentley and is still relatively inexperienced. I think the position the club finds itself in with regards the defence is ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope McDermott has one or two names in mind, and we don't end up panic buying in the first week of August.

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.

The key word in your post is 'successfully'. We didn't successfully replace Sidwell, and that cost this club.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by Ian Royal » 12 Jul 2011 18:39

cmonurz Unfortunately Ian it is all to normal for you to call someone a dick for expressing an opinion, albeit sarcastically.

This club has one recognised centre-back, which this board spent half of last season slagging off. Pearce has the turning circle of a Bentley and is still relatively inexperienced. I think the position the club finds itself in with regards the defence is ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope McDermott has one or two names in mind, and we don't end up panic buying in the first week of August.

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.

The key word in your post is 'successfully'. We didn't successfully replace Sidwell, and that cost this club.


I wasn't being sarcastic at all, I genuinely meant it. Posting a picture of a man with his head in the sand for a sarcastic comment about worrying because the season starts tomorrow is being a dick, sorry if that offends you.

We also have more than one recognised centreback. Pearce & Morrison, and Harte has spent a season playing at Centreback. If you want to throw your toys because we haven't instantly replaced Mills by magicing someone out of a hat, that's you're problem.

Big whoop, judge whether we successfully replace someone, when we actually bring in a freaking player. For every player you can post to say we didn't replace, I can post one to say we did. Sidwell is a big one off mistake, and sometimes teh club gets things wrong. It did bring in both Fae and Cisse. It's not something anyone could predict that Fae would be awful and a tosser and Cisse would simply not be good enough.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by Reading777 » 12 Jul 2011 18:53

Lets just wait and see what happens between now, August 31st, January 31st and ultimately the end of season May 2012 then the answer will be much clearer for those of you like me who don't have a crystal ball. :o

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by sandman » 12 Jul 2011 19:43

andrew1957 Brian McD has already publicly stated that we will buy at least one more CB (BBCRB on Friday evening) - the only question is whether or not that CB will be of sufficient quality.


"I’ll try to bring a centre-back in. We’ll wait and see what happens as far as anybody else is concerned (with regards to further departures) and then go from there."


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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by cmonurz » 12 Jul 2011 22:00

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cmonurz Unfortunately Ian it is all to normal for you to call someone a dick for expressing an opinion, albeit sarcastically.

This club has one recognised centre-back, which this board spent half of last season slagging off. Pearce has the turning circle of a Bentley and is still relatively inexperienced. I think the position the club finds itself in with regards the defence is ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope McDermott has one or two names in mind, and we don't end up panic buying in the first week of August.

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.

The key word in your post is 'successfully'. We didn't successfully replace Sidwell, and that cost this club.


I wasn't being sarcastic at all, I genuinely meant it. Posting a picture of a man with his head in the sand for a sarcastic comment about worrying because the season starts tomorrow is being a dick, sorry if that offends you.

We also have more than one recognised centreback. Pearce & Morrison, and Harte has spent a season playing at Centreback. If you want to throw your toys because we haven't instantly replaced Mills by magicing someone out of a hat, that's you're problem.

Big whoop, judge whether we successfully replace someone, when we actually bring in a freaking player. For every player you can post to say we didn't replace, I can post one to say we did. Sidwell is a big one off mistake, and sometimes teh club gets things wrong. It did bring in both Fae and Cisse. It's not something anyone could predict that Fae would be awful and a tosser and Cisse would simply not be good enough.


Fwiw when I said 'albeit sarcastically', I meant my post of a man with his head in the sand. I'm well aware you think calling me a dick is warranted, it's how you go about things.

Morrison has, unless I'm mistaken, never played a league game for us. Harte has played the majority of his career (and his successful Reading career) at full-back. My issue is with the club putting itself in this position at all - we have become a selling club (again), getting rid of our captain, and having lost Zurab too, presumably for financial reasons. We aren't just selling our best players, we are short our only recognised players in a key position, its demoralising.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by Hoop Blah » 12 Jul 2011 22:23

Ian Royal successfully replace someone, when we actually bring in a freaking player. For every player you can post to say we didn't replace, I can post one to say we did


Successfully replaced at the first attempt? By that I mean replacing with a player to consistently produce at the level we then found ourselves at (ie I don't expect a Sidwell or Shorey replacement of the same quality as their best, just someone to do their same job to a decent standard).

Up for debate, but off the top of my head, without too much consideration

Little? No
Doyle? No
Murty? No
Sonko? No
Shorey? Yes, but then Armstrong No
Hahnemann? Yes
Kitson? No
Harper? Not really
Convey? Yes

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 13 Jul 2011 09:55

cmonurz Unfortunately Ian it is all to normal for you to call someone a dick for expressing an opinion, albeit sarcastically.

This club has one recognised centre-back, which this board spent half of last season slagging off. Pearce has the turning circle of a Bentley and is still relatively inexperienced. I think the position the club finds itself in with regards the defence is ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope McDermott has one or two names in mind, and we don't end up panic buying in the first week of August.

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.

The key word in your post is 'successfully'. We didn't successfully replace Sidwell, and that cost this club.



except pearce was probably our most consistent CB last year whe he played, and it doesnt matter if you are slow at CB if you have good decision making and positioning.(plus quick FBs.....)

and we finally replaced sidders last year. it took a while, but we got there.
and tbf, it was always going to be hard replacing one of our best ever players

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 13 Jul 2011 09:56

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.


LOL.


just take a look at the summer that teams like spurs, and arsenal are having.
everyones a selling club, up to barcelona.

im quite happy that we will be facing mills next season, rather than have him in our back 4 tbf.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 13 Jul 2011 09:58

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andrew1957 Brian McD has already publicly stated that we will buy at least one more CB (BBCRB on Friday evening) - the only question is whether or not that CB will be of sufficient quality.


"I’ll try to bring a centre-back in. We’ll wait and see what happens as far as anybody else is concerned (with regards to further departures) and then go from there."



you are criticising because he said try?!

lol.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 13 Jul 2011 10:00

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cmonurz Unfortunately Ian it is all to normal for you to call someone a dick for expressing an opinion, albeit sarcastically.

This club has one recognised centre-back, which this board spent half of last season slagging off. Pearce has the turning circle of a Bentley and is still relatively inexperienced. I think the position the club finds itself in with regards the defence is ridiculous and unacceptable. I hope McDermott has one or two names in mind, and we don't end up panic buying in the first week of August.

I won't apologise for my frustration that we are now a selling club, and to our promotion rivals too.

The key word in your post is 'successfully'. We didn't successfully replace Sidwell, and that cost this club.


I wasn't being sarcastic at all, I genuinely meant it. Posting a picture of a man with his head in the sand for a sarcastic comment about worrying because the season starts tomorrow is being a dick, sorry if that offends you.

We also have more than one recognised centreback. Pearce & Morrison, and Harte has spent a season playing at Centreback. If you want to throw your toys because we haven't instantly replaced Mills by magicing someone out of a hat, that's you're problem.

Big whoop, judge whether we successfully replace someone, when we actually bring in a freaking player. For every player you can post to say we didn't replace, I can post one to say we did. Sidwell is a big one off mistake, and sometimes teh club gets things wrong. It did bring in both Fae and Cisse. It's not something anyone could predict that Fae would be awful and a tosser and Cisse would simply not be good enough.


Fwiw when I said 'albeit sarcastically', I meant my post of a man with his head in the sand. I'm well aware you think calling me a dick is warranted, it's how you go about things.

Morrison has, unless I'm mistaken, never played a league game for us. Harte has played the majority of his career (and his successful Reading career) at full-back. My issue is with the club putting itself in this position at all - we have become a selling club (again), getting rid of our captain, and having lost Zurab too, presumably for financial reasons. We aren't just selling our best players, we are short our only recognised players in a key position, its demoralising.



but we sold him a few days ago, have already come out and said we will" try " to replace him, and its still two months till the window shuts

if it upsets you that otherclubs are signing every championship player ever registered, i suggest supporting leicester.cos thats the way to build a club, oh yes.


for gods sake man, get a grip.

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Re: Q: Is having only two centre backs enough?

by brendywendy » 13 Jul 2011 10:01

Hoop Blah
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Successfully replaced at the first attempt? By that I mean replacing with a player to consistently produce at the level we then found ourselves at (ie I don't expect a Sidwell or Shorey replacement of the same quality as their best, just someone to do their same job to a decent standard).

Up for debate, but off the top of my head, without too much consideration

Little? No
Doyle? No
Murty? No
Sonko? No
Shorey? Yes, but then Armstrong No
Hahnemann? Yes
Kitson? No
Harper? Not really
Convey? Yes



who said at the first attempt?
apart from you of course?

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