The Snowball stat thread

[Ian Royal]

how exactly are these scores awarded. By painstaking rewatching of full multi angle video footage of the game? From highlights? From having been at all games? From having been at some games? From match reports?

There's only one acceptable option from that lot for anyone to even begin to consider any of those numbers worth paying attention to.

And I can tell you I'll be extremely surprised if Snowball has access to multi-angle footage of every minute of every game and the time to available to analyse it closely enough (I'd estimate at least 60 minutes per game) for the purpose of putting a thread on HNA?

If you're going to do stats, do what you can do fully and thoroughly with the resources available. Don't try to do something massively comprehensive that has to be half arsed because you don't have the resources to do it properly.

[Wiggypop]

This if phooking mental!!

[Snowball]

Points against Minutes Played

0,424 Minutes Played 30 Pts 14.13 Mins/Point - Roberts
0,360 Minutes Played 25 Pts 14.40 Mins/Point - Connolly

1,435 Minutes Played 69 Pts 20.80 Mins/Point - Harte
1,559 Minutes Played 65 Pts 23.98 Mins/Point - Le Fondre
1,895 Minutes Played 77 Pts 24.61 Mins/Point - Kebe

0,745 Minutes Played 25 Pts 29.80 Mins/Point - Griffin
2,285 Minutes Played 73 Pts 31.30 Mins/Point - McAnuff
2,880 Minutes Played 90 Pts 32.00 Mins/Point - Pearce
1,496 Minutes Played 46 Pts 32.52 Mins/Point - Church
1,964 Minutes Played 60 Pts 32.73 Mins/Point - Cummings
2,519 Minutes Played 75 Pts 33.59 Mins/Point - Gorkss
2,880 Minutes Played 85 Pts 33.88 Mins/Point - Federici
2,296 Minutes Played 67 Pts 34.27 Mins/Point - Karacan
0,879 Minutes Played 24 Pts 36.63 Mins/Point - Tabb
1,357 Minutes Played 37 Pts 36.68 Mins/Point - HRK
1,850 Minutes Played 49 Pts 37.76 Mins/Point - Hunt
2,608 Minutes Played 69 Pts 37.80 Mins/Point - Leigertwood
1,198 Minutes Played 30 Pts 39.93 Mins/Point - Mills

Points awarded as follows.

10 Scoring a genuine "solo" goal, ie no assist awarded
5 Scoring a Goal
5 Scoring a Penalty
5 Clear-Cut Assist
5 Winning a penalty that goes in either straight off or after a save/rebound
4 Winning a penalty that gets missed by another player
3 A Major Contribution, eg: brilliant cross by Harte, Kebe heads for Goal but Church scores
2 Lesser Contribution noted in dispatches (eg Kebe-Karacan interpass to set up cross for a goal)

Defensive

5 Points to the back 5 for a clean sheet
4 Points to 2 central midfielders for a clean sheet
2 Points to wingers for a clean sheet

5 Bonus for an "extra" such as a brilliant 1-on-1 save by keeper

[Ian Royal]

Actually, you do whine when you get it back. Apparently im a retard. Remember?

Well, you're just a plain boring bastard for writing a post that long, and basically saying nothing. Give me Snowballs stats any day.

That's not whining, that's dishing it back out. Don't like what I post? Don't read it. I don't care, plenty do like it. And I don't dress up terribly flawed opinion as fact.[/quote]

Really? You're the worst proponent of this on here. I used to read your posts, but they started to spout so much drivel, I gave up. Thats obviously what 25,000 posts does to you.

[Snowball]

how exactly are these scores awarded. By painstaking rewatching of full multi angle video footage of the game?
From highlights? From having been at all games? From having been at some games? From match reports?

You're a bit later than your usual...

What is complicated about Goals, Official Assists, Penalties Won, Penalties Scored? Clean Sheets?

Goals, Assists, Pens, Cleans Sheets are all on the OS fer Chrissakes.

There's only one acceptable option from that lot for anyone to even begin to consider any of those numbers worth paying attention to. And I can tell you I'll be extremely surprised if Snowball has access to multi-angle footage of every minute of every game and the time to available to analyse it closely enough (I'd estimate at least 60 minutes per game) for the purpose of putting a thread on HNA?

What the HELL are you talking about?
This stuff is elementary.

The only tiny debates are the HCs which I pointed out ages ago,
and a couple of "extra" saves made by Federici.

[Snowball]

What were your other degrees in, out of interest?

I have an Open University BA Degree, a BSc in Psychology (Liverpool),
an MA with Distinction in Creative Writing, (Bath Spa)
half an MSc (I jacked it in, hated it),
and I'm currently studying for two degrees simultaneously,
PPE with the Open University and Philosophy, Full Time at Birkbeck.




and I don't give a flying oxf*rd whether you believe me or not.

[Mr Angry]

Simply bizarre.



But hey ho, if Snowball wants to have yet another thread devoted to his spurious psuedo-science of snowy-stats, so what.

If you think its pointless, do as I'm going to do after this one and only post on this thread, and ignore it.

Just one point though.....

05 Klhumalo
04 Cwyka

....frankly, Klhumalo should have had minus points for his contributions in the games he played for us, and I'd argue that with his 2 brief cameo sub appearances, Cwyka has done more to help RFC than that piece of cr@p from Spurs ever did.

Anyway, my only contribution to this thread is now at an end; I'm out.

[Snowball]

So Ian Royal, how come you posted

"He scored a penalty with his head"

but now, hanging-on to the bashers of whoever is being bashed at the time
you suddenly say that's impossible?

The words, "Ian Royal is a lying hypocrite" come to mind...

[Snowball]

Khumalo played well for one game and we won 2-0 away, so he
played in a tea, that got a clean-sheet away.

He still comes out as the worst player overall (no surprise there)
but in that one game (which most say we were really good in)
he did OK.


But that's the difference between me and you. I can look beyond my knee-jerking prejudices and check reality

[Ian Royal]

So Ian Royal, how come you posted

"He scored a penalty with his head"

but now, hanging-on to the bashers of whoever is being bashed at the time
you suddenly say that's impossible?

The words, "Ian Royal is a lying hypocrite" come to mind...

Because I can't be arsed to spend the time making sure everything I type is utterly fool proof for future discussions?

I of course meant: "He scored the rebound from a penalty with his head."

I just short cutted that because I assumed people would not be stupid enough to think (I presume we're referring to Stabba here?) that the penalty was taken from a horizontal position with the head and was scored without a rebound being involved. It is of course, still statistically a missed penalty. As any half decent football statistician will tell you.

[Snowball]

In Season 2009-10

RFC had 12 Pens, scoring 10. Gylfi 7, Hunt 1, Church 1, Long 1

Howard missed at Forest, Long put a pen over the bar when Savage was in goal

Our opposition had 8 pens, scoring 7 (Feds saved on)

That was 20 Penalties total, 17 Scored = 85%

[Snowball]

Nope you definitely said:


Ian Royal, 30 Jul 2010 19:57

Only player I've ever seen to

score a penalty with his head

(ok so on the rebound, but still impressive)


You understand the term, "Score a penalty" yes?

[leicsRoyal]

What were your other degrees in, out of interest?

I have an Open University BA Degree, a BSc in Psychology (Liverpool),
an MA with Distinction in Creative Writing, (Bath Spa)
half an MSc (I jacked it in, hated it),
and I'm currently studying for two degrees simultaneously,
PPE with the Open University and Philosophy, Full Time at Birkbeck.




and I don't give a flying oxf*rd whether you believe me or not.

May I suggest this one.

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/sci/stati ... and_stats/

[Snowball]

2008-09

RFC Had 7 Pens scoring 6 = 86%

Our opponents had 4 pens, scoring all 4 = 100%

Combined that's 10/11 = 90%

Totaling the last 3 seasons it's 84%

[Maguire]

Why don't we, as good statisticians, use a sample size greater than 4 (which doesn't confer any statistical signifiance) Let's take, say, the 2010/2011 Premier League season.

Penalties awarded: 103

Penalties missed: 21

I hope we can all agree that we're looking at about 20% being missed ie. 80% being scored.

80% is less than 85%, if you're struggling with that bit as well.

[Maguire]

2009-10 Premier League season

Penalties awarded: 111

Penalties missed: 26

Conversion rate: 77%

(this is less that 85% too)

[Maguire]

08-09 = 81%

07-08 = 78%

etc etc

[Ian Royal]

If it helps Mags I worked it out over the last three full seasons for league two to Prem and it was about a 70 something percentage.

[Maguire]

Don't worry Ian, there's no danger of him being right about anything

[Snowball]

Why don't we, as good statisticians, use a sample size greater than 4 (which doesn't confer any statistical signifiance) Let's take, say, the 2010/2011 Premier League season.

Penalties awarded: 103

Penalties missed: 21

I hope we can all agree that we're looking at about 20% being missed ie. 80% being scored.

80% is less than 85%, if you're struggling with that bit as well.

And why aren't we talking about Reading FC games?