How Long Will BM Last at this rate?????

[John Peel]

And we could even have a derby game for the first time in many years!

[AussieRoyal15]

Swindon!!!!!
That was a decent championship squad put out, no creativity ohh except for mcanuff

[AthleticoSpizz]

My Everton STH mate was texting me throughout the game, and he was worried for large chunks of it tbf

Probably more worried he'd find the tyres nicked from his car when he got out the ground.

a cheap (and predictable) shot

3-1 away at Everton...no shame

[Anfield Kopite]

My Everton STH mate was texting me throughout the game, and he was worried for large chunks of it tbf

Probably more worried he'd find the tyres nicked from his car when he got out the ground.

a cheap (and pathetically predictable) shot

3-1 away at Everton...no shame

[AirRaidSiren]

No mate its a serious question

But is a bit lame to start calling this out already, though if you want a serious answer, I would say December, if we are still in the bottom three. I will not be happy about it if he is given the boot regardless.

Funds were not available and that is the root cause of our start, though in reality we have not actually been that bad and we always start slowly.

I have faith.

I am TIRED of hearing 'funds were not available'...please refer to Anton's interview on Football Focus at the Madejski stadium, he cleared up the 'funds' issue in one interview. FFS!!!

[AirRaidSiren]

And we could even have a derby game for the first time in many years!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't a 'derby' game consistent of TWO teams? considering Swind*n do NOT consider us as their number 1 or even 2 on their hit list as rivals???

[howser]

What is with this 3-1 at Everton not bad ?? we have got the worst squad in the prem by a country mile, absolutely no premiership quallity and after two transfer windows minimal championship qualities as well.

We have no tacttical nouse, oppostion team talks must be simple " don't chase the ball to win it this bunch of tactless clowns will just give it backto you" McD should have gone before January, he is like a number of managers that have failed at Premiership level, Warnock, Dowie, Bassett< davies have all got teams to the top league and failed miserably, get in line Brian you are about to join the queue !!

[Cypry]

He appears to be losing the dressing room too... Guthrie, Le Fondre, Pog and now Mc Cleary starting to voice.... http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... _fc_starts

McCleary should be starting more in my opinion, personally I prefer him to McAnuff. This article coming out probably means he will continue on the bench as anyone criticising the manager mysteriously disappears from the starting line up...

Not quite sure how him saying he'd like to start more games is "criticising" the manager - show me a player in his situation who wouldn't like to be starting more games.....

If he was saying he "deserved" to be starting more games and "can't understand why he's not being given a chance" then that could be termed criticism....

[jellytot]

If we.go down BM gets the chop in the summer doing it now would be silly and unfair on the new guy. If we go down the squad and staff have been found out most need to leave. We need to start again. Build a passing team not a bunch of hoofers that cannot pass 10 yards.

Following relegation new chapter begins. Got to get the right guy in!

[windermere_royal]

When not if we go down there is no ways on gods earth McD wil lose his job in the summer, if we haven`t got rid of in in this absolute stinker of a season then its certailnly not going to happen during the break.
however if we have a bad start to next season in the CC then it is highly plausable,

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

I think Brian will resign if we go down. The football or hoofball seems to be his style. Fans only accept it when winning. And at this level it won't win many games, as we have seen.

[winchester_royal]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

[Cypry]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

^^^ this

[Ouroboros]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

+1

[Biscuit_Boy]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

I agree with what you say re the Everton game. The trouble is, the week before they laid down with a totally gutless display against a team LOWER in the table than themselves. Is that BM's fault, or is it that the players are simply not good enough? Well ok, we KNOW they are not good enough, but we knew that before the season started, so that's BM's fault for not addressing it surely? Especially as we were told the club had learned from the 2008 relegation and would not make the same mistakes. And then we had another chance to bring in some quality in January and it still didn't happen. Who's fault is that?

[Ian Royal]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

There aren't that many people complaining about the performance, at least I'm not. It's the total lack of lessons learnt from McDermott and his poor management over the last three games that is the problem. What happened on the pitch yesterday was utterly predictable. And just til inevitable and easy for Everton.

[winchester_royal]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

There aren't that many people complaining about the performance, at least I'm not. It's the total lack of lessons learnt from McDermott and his poor management over the last three games that is the problem. What happened on the pitch yesterday was utterly predictable. And just til inevitable and easy for Everton.

Not sure there is anything McDermott could have done differently. He sent a team out there that performed admirably, and competed more than anyone could expect given that it was a 6th v 19th match.

The Wigan game was a disappointment, but those games come along for every team. We're just lucky that under Brian those types of performances have been very rare.

Any talk of McDermott resigning/sacked at this stage is utterly ludicrous, and those saying we are already down need to take a good long look at the table and then themselves.

We have the worst squad in the division by a distance, and whilst more could/should have been done in the transfer windows to correct that (though tbf they did try in January) there can be very little doubt that Brian is getting (or at least very close to getting) the best out of this group.

[Snowball]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

Well said.

[Victor Meldrew]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

There aren't that many people complaining about the performance, at least I'm not. It's the total lack of lessons learnt from McDermott and his poor management over the last three games that is the problem. What happened on the pitch yesterday was utterly predictable. And just til inevitable and easy for Everton.

Not sure there is anything McDermott could have done differently. He sent a team out there that performed admirably, and competed more than anyone could expect given that it was a 6th v 19th match.

The Wigan game was a disappointment, but those games come along for every team. We're just lucky that under Brian those types of performances have been very rare.

Any talk of McDermott resigning/sacked at this stage is utterly ludicrous, and those saying we are already down need to take a good long look at the table and then themselves.

We have the worst squad in the division by a distance, and whilst more could/should have been done in the transfer windows to correct that (though tbf they did try in January) there can be very little doubt that Brian is getting (or at least very close to getting) the best out of this group.

A liitle bit contradictory there winchester-you say that "we have the worst squad in the division by a distance" and yet in the earlier para.refute vigorously that we are not already down-it takes a massive leap of faith to believe that the "worst squad" can suddenly get clear of the relegation zone.
Everybody can see that mathematically we are not down-as other posters have said,the Wigan performance dragged the fans down and even though we do not expect to beat Everton (even though it is one of the very few teams that we have beaten this season)we are probably going to have to beat somebody such as Man Utd.,Man City,Arsenal or Liverpool as well as teams around us which we have mainly so far failed to do.

I don't think anybody is saying that Brian should be sacked now but it is looking more and more likely that he won't last beyond the end of this season for the many reasons already stated and just because he got us promoted once there is no guarantee that it will happen again.

[Ian Royal]

Even by HNA standards the overreaction on this thread over the last 15 hours has been pretty laughable. Everton have lost once in their last 17 prem games at Goodison, are 6th in the league, and a couple of weeks ago were considered serious contenders for a CL spot. The level to which we competed, certainly for the first 40 minutes, yesterday was promising and every fan who was actually at the ground was pleased with the effort and performance of the players..as was shown in the atmosphere created. Eventually their quality shone through, but that was to be expected given the respective wage budgets. On the same day Southampton lost at home to the bottom side, and Wigan got spanked by a team that were two places below Everton. We're not even close to being out of yet, and if City do the business against Villa we can move ahead of them next Saturday.

Get a oxf*rd grip.

There aren't that many people complaining about the performance, at least I'm not. It's the total lack of lessons learnt from McDermott and his poor management over the last three games that is the problem. What happened on the pitch yesterday was utterly predictable. And just til inevitable and easy for Everton.

Not sure there is anything McDermott could have done differently. He sent a team out there that performed admirably, and competed more than anyone could expect given that it was a 6th v 19th match.

We have the worst squad in the division by a distance, and whilst more could/should have been done in the transfer windows to correct that (though tbf they did try in January) there can be very little doubt that Brian is getting (or at least very close to getting) the best out of this group.

Don't agree with either of those bits. We just saw exactly what we were seeing last time we played 4-4-2. Players being game but getting totally over-run in predictable fashion. We could have picked up plenty more points this season if McDermott wasn't out of his depth.

We'd have been better off sticking to 4-5-1 and playing for a draw. Although thanks to McDermott we don't really have the players to make it dangerous. Just as we don't have the players to make 4-4-2 even remotely resilient.

Our squad isn't considerably worse than several others in the league. It's just been mismanaged. It was definitely capable of surviving this season with a fair wind and a credible plan.