Brian: The right decision?

[winchester_royal]

Just when you think the season couldn't get any worse - Brian gets sacked and now people are saying Di Canio is in the running to be next manager, not only saying that he might be, but actually calling for him to be manager!

It's hasn't been easy to be a Reading fan for 46 years, but it may well be impossible for me to carry on supporting any club who appoints a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi as manager.

Another old git in yours truly has to concur with your viewpoint.

HE'S NOT A FCUKING NAZI.

Christ some of you lot are thick.

[Norfolk Royal]

The difference between fascism and nazism is a matter of debate. In most respects they are virtually the same except the extreme form of racial engineering practised by the nazis which has never been a central tenet of fascism.

[windermere_royal]

Just when you think the season couldn't get any worse - Brian gets sacked and now people are saying Di Canio is in the running to be next manager, not only saying that he might be, but actually calling for him to be manager!

It's hasn't been easy to be a Reading fan for 46 years, but it may well be impossible for me to carry on supporting any club who appoints a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi as manager.

Another old git in yours truly has to concur with your viewpoint.

HE'S NOT A FCUKING NAZI.

He`s a very naughty boy.

[P!ssed Off]

The difference between fascism and nazism is a matter of debate. In most respects they are virtually the same except the extreme form of racial engineering practised by the nazis which has never been a central tenet of fascism.

Fascism does explain the Nazi's discrimination of Jews, gypsies, disabled and others.

In order to solidify power and unite the masses, a fascist regime will create an enemy for the masses to unite against. In order to justify the suspension of democracy, the introduction of secret police and the government giving themselves draconian powers there needs to be a perceived threat to the nation.
If Hitler did not attempt to convince the German people that the Jews, gypsies etc. were the evil enemy then they would realise more quickly that the real enemy was their murdering dictator.

Whilst the Nazis went much further than general Fascist ideology would promote, the idea of discriminating against outsiders to retain power is a key Fascist concept.

[winchester_royal]

The difference between fascism and nazism is a matter of debate. In most respects they are virtually the same except the extreme form of racial engineering practised by the nazis which has never been a central tenet of fascism.

Fascism does explain the Nazi's discrimination of Jews, gypsies, disabled and others.

In order to solidify power and unite the masses, a fascist regime will create an enemy for the masses to unite against. In order to justify the suspension of democracy, the introduction of secret police and the government giving themselves draconian powers there needs to be a perceived threat to the nation.
If Hitler did not attempt to convince the German people that the Jews, gypsies etc. were the evil enemy then they would realise more quickly that the real enemy was their murdering dictator.

Whilst the Nazis went much further than general Fascist ideology would promote, the idea of discriminating against outsiders to retain power is a key Fascist concept.

Yes, but that's an example of the radical fascism that Di Canio is clearly not a follower of.

There have been horrendous events in history that can be explained by fundamentalist Catholicism. Does this mean we'll have a protest every time we sign an Irish player now?

I have seen/heard nothing to suggest Di Canio is an evil/dangerous individual. Until I do I am not going to pass judgement on a man that I know very little about aside from what a sensationalist media has reported.

Anyway, this is becoming exceptionally tedious so I'm bowing out of this deb8.

[Riseley]

^^^ Where you been m8?! We miss you!

If the Swindon reject gets Brian's job you and Schards will not be lonely in your right wing enclave. Miss you btw

[Ian Herring]

^^^ Where you been m8?! We miss you!

If the Swindon reject gets Brian's job you and Schards will not be lonely in your right wing enclave. Miss you btw

It was bad enough when Keith Scott turned up in Reading colours. The possibility of having a manager infected by 'the stain of Swindon' is even worse.

[melonhead]

tbf i think fascism gets a very bad press.

[westongeezer]

Indeed, some say Hilter was merely misunderstood.

[melonhead]

i think the leaders have been bad.
but the core ideology (viewed coldly) seems to be a very good way of uniting countries and growing empires.


obviously the ideology is outdated, and wouldnt work any more.
but if the fascists had won the war, we may have a different view on it

[Norfolk Royal]

The difference between fascism and nazism is a matter of debate. In most respects they are virtually the same except the extreme form of racial engineering practised by the nazis which has never been a central tenet of fascism.

Fascism does explain the Nazi's discrimination of Jews, gypsies, disabled and others.

In order to solidify power and unite the masses, a fascist regime will create an enemy for the masses to unite against. In order to justify the suspension of democracy, the introduction of secret police and the government giving themselves draconian powers there needs to be a perceived threat to the nation.
If Hitler did not attempt to convince the German people that the Jews, gypsies etc. were the evil enemy then they would realise more quickly that the real enemy was their murdering dictator.

Whilst the Nazis went much further than general Fascist ideology would promote, the idea of discriminating against outsiders to retain power is a key Fascist concept.

Yes that's all true but that doesn't, for instance, make the Tories fascists for demonising the unemployed. (Although some may say it did). I was more alluding to the holocaust really.

[winchester_royal]

i think the leaders have been bad.
but the core ideology (viewed coldly) seems to be a very good way of uniting countries and growing empires.


obviously the ideology is outdated, and wouldnt work any more.
but if the fascists had won the war, we may have a different view on it

'Greed Brenders, Hitler was to Fascism what Stalin was to Communism, and what the KKK are to Christianity in the US.

[melonhead]

agreed- the problem with all ideology is the human nature element

[mr_number]

FWIW, I thought Oswald Mosely and his lot looked pretty natty as they marched around the East End.

[melonhead]

and who doesnt look good in black


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[The Prisoner]

Just a thought, but if Di Canio comes in will we play solely on the Right Wing?

[RoyalCadena's]

As an older Reading supporter (recently introduced to the internet) I have been reading the many posts and articles currently written on the recent sacking of Brian McDerrmott. The following link I think sums up the situation perfectly:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/most-pointless-sacking-054456440.html

Interesting to read some of the comments on this article from supporters of clubs that relatively recently were close rivals. Without Brian's unwavering hard work and dedication over the past few years we also could have been looking starry eyed at championship clubs that made it into the EPL.

We are in the current league position because of the strength/ability of the squad not the ability of the Manager. No manager in the world will drastically change the ability of the squad within 10 games no matter how forceful they are or how big their ego is. The truth is we entered the EPL with one of the weakest squads as a result of the club attempting to grow in a well managed and sustainable way (not doing a Leeds, Pompey or QPR). Brian McDerrmott has ensured that we have had another taste of football in the EPL by getting the best out of a squad that the Club can afford.

I am therefore saddened to see Brain become the Fall Guy for the "Reading way" of trying to compete within our financial means and get sacked at the very time when we need level headedness and some consideration to have a manager with proven ability to fight another promotion campaign - hopefully backed with some of this seasons EPL bounty. We need continuity in this stage of the clubs growth to a fully fledged competitive EPL club. Where will the likes of Di Canio be when the going gets tough and Anton and John have no cash to buy "star" players?

[maffff]

The 'Reading Way' is dead/long live the 'Reading Way'

[Man Friday]

Again, this sums up my feelings exactly...

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/jim ... 42350.html

and is exactly why I for one shall be boycotting all remaining matches this season as suggested by the first respondent.

Yours in despair

XXX

[Eaststandman]

As an older Reading supporter (recently introduced to the internet) I have been reading the many posts and articles currently written on the recent sacking of Brian McDerrmott. The following link I think sums up the situation perfectly:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/most-pointless-sacking-054456440.html

Interesting to read some of the comments on this article from supporters of clubs that relatively recently were close rivals. Without Brian's unwavering hard work and dedication over the past few years we also could have been looking starry eyed at championship clubs that made it into the EPL.

We are in the current league position because of the strength/ability of the squad not the ability of the Manager. No manager in the world will drastically change the ability of the squad within 10 games no matter how forceful they are or how big their ego is. The truth is we entered the EPL with one of the weakest squads as a result of the club attempting to grow in a well managed and sustainable way (not doing a Leeds, Pompey or QPR). Brian McDerrmott has ensured that we have had another taste of football in the EPL by getting the best out of a squad that the Club can afford.

I am therefore saddened to see Brain become the Fall Guy for the "Reading way" of trying to compete within our financial means and get sacked at the very time when we need level headedness and some consideration to have a manager with proven ability to fight another promotion campaign - hopefully backed with some of this seasons EPL bounty. We need continuity in this stage of the clubs growth to a fully fledged competitive EPL club. Where will the likes of Di Canio be when the going gets tough and Anton and John have no cash to buy "star" players?

Major +1