Adkins - the alternatives

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by TheBaldOne » 26 Mar 2014 20:12

Get Brynjar Gunnarrson in ! or Mackay

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Ian Royal » 26 Mar 2014 20:20

Jimbo Why hasn't anyone talked about Brian Mcdermott yet? His style of football management is doing great at Leeds. It's been over a year since we sacked him and he hardly gets a mention on HNA. Maybe he could bring back Noel Hunt and Jimmy Kebe too. We'll have a spare bed in the treatment room now JR is retiring and someone needs to keep Jem, Bridge, Williams and Morrison company.

And where is the evidence that we've got one of the biggest wage bills in the Championship?

It was £46m last year. Last time we got relegated it was £33m and we were far from halving it for the next season. When we originally got promoted it was about £14m. Two years ago it was about £26m on promotion with one of the highest wage budgets in the league.

Do the maths.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by windermere_royal » 26 Mar 2014 21:11

TheBaldOne Get Brynjar Gunnarrson in ! or Mackay


FFS Alex Ferguson would struggle here with no investment

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Jimbo » 26 Mar 2014 22:11

Ian Royal
Jimbo Why hasn't anyone talked about Brian Mcdermott yet? His style of football management is doing great at Leeds. It's been over a year since we sacked him and he hardly gets a mention on HNA. Maybe he could bring back Noel Hunt and Jimmy Kebe too. We'll have a spare bed in the treatment room now JR is retiring and someone needs to keep Jem, Bridge, Williams and Morrison company.

And where is the evidence that we've got one of the biggest wage bills in the Championship?

It was £46m last year. Last time we got relegated it was £33m and we were far from halving it for the next season. When we originally got promoted it was about £14m. Two years ago it was about £26m on promotion with one of the highest wage budgets in the league.

Do the maths.


What maths? I was just asking for the evidence.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Libertine » 26 Mar 2014 23:48

I think it would be completely nucking futs to sack Adkins. There is always a possibility he walks on his own. There is also the possibility of new ownership who will want to bring in their management team. But barring those two scenarios I see Adkins remaining for the duration of his contract.

To be honest after an underwhelming summer window, a ton of injuries, bringing no one in during the January window to have this team in 6th place is almost a minor miracle. The only things I have to criticize him about was leaving Jobi on the bench for much of the first half of the season and this past game not playing Taylor in CM and leaving Jobi on his usual left side (where he links up well with Obita) and leaving McCleary on his usual right side (where he links up well with Gunter). But other than that, with all the injuries, lack of investment in the playing squad, massive uncertainty in ownership; I think he has done a credible job having us in 6th currently. I don't think there is anyone else out there, who is available, that could have done better with the hand Adkins has been dealt this season.


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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Royal Lady » 27 Mar 2014 08:54

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Royal Lady And in answer to the OP, I'd still advocate that having a joint management team in McD and Copps would be a bloody fantastic duo.


Can you name a successful joint management team? Doesn't work imho, there needs to be a boss making the decisions not a committee.

Quinn and Gooding? McD could do a lot of the training stuff, Copps the behind the scenes stuff and Copps is there to guide McD if he needs it.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by sandman » 27 Mar 2014 08:59

Brian is a manager in his own right, why would he want to share a job? Hammond does the behind the scenes stuff, are you advocating getting rid of him?

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by HoneyRoastHoax » 27 Mar 2014 09:25

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floyd__streete Parachute payments, top 6 should be par.


Oh yeah, he spent all those parachute payments hasn't he? :roll:


:|

Parachute payments = one of the biggest wage bills in the division. Do you see everything in terms of Championship Manager? Transfer fees are only half the story. Pal.



:lol: you're arguing against your own argument now! Keep up bro

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Royal Lady » 27 Mar 2014 09:31

sandman Brian is a manager in his own right, why would he want to share a job? Hammond does the behind the scenes stuff, are you advocating getting rid of him?

Not really - McD struggled when we were in Prem - Copps would have helped advise him etc - so I could see them being an ideal team - they've worked together before and I think they'd do well together - both easy going - no egos.


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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Cureton's Volley » 27 Mar 2014 09:52

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sandman Brian is a manager in his own right, why would he want to share a job? Hammond does the behind the scenes stuff, are you advocating getting rid of him?

Not really - McD struggled when we were in Prem - Copps would have helped advise him etc - so I could see them being an ideal team - they've worked together before and I think they'd do well together - both easy going - no egos.


I think it sounds perfectly reasonable to say that the Prem experience Coppell had would have been invaluable to support McD last season

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by HoneyRoastHoax » 27 Mar 2014 09:58

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sandman Brian is a manager in his own right, why would he want to share a job? Hammond does the behind the scenes stuff, are you advocating getting rid of him?

Not really - McD struggled when we were in Prem - Copps would have helped advise him etc - so I could see them being an ideal team - they've worked together before and I think they'd do well together - both easy going - no egos.


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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by sandman » 27 Mar 2014 10:11

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sandman Brian is a manager in his own right, why would he want to share a job? Hammond does the behind the scenes stuff, are you advocating getting rid of him?

Not really - McD struggled when we were in Prem - Copps would have helped advise him etc - so I could see them being an ideal team - they've worked together before and I think they'd do well together - both easy going - no egos.


I think it sounds perfectly reasonable to say that the Prem experience Coppell had would have been invaluable to support McD last season


They're good friends, wouldn't Sir Steve have spoken to him anyway without the need for the club to pay an extra wage?

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Pepe the Horseman » 27 Mar 2014 10:39

He's working for free at Pompey, so you'd hope he wouldn't charge for giving his m8 some advice.


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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by winchester_royal » 27 Mar 2014 11:12

He's playing the DoF role brilliantly up there as well

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by sandman » 27 Mar 2014 11:12

Which as I said he probably did over the phone when Brian would've asked for advice anyway.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Punk Tew Asian » 27 Mar 2014 11:47

At least Nigel has a brilliant record compared with that of the Liverpool manager when he was here... :cry:

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by floyd__streete » 27 Mar 2014 12:19

HoneyRoastHoax
floyd__streete Parachute payments = one of the biggest wage bills in the division. Do you see everything in terms of Championship Manager? Transfer fees are only half the story. Pal.



:lol: you're arguing against your own argument now! Keep up bro


:|

Are you struggling with this? I said that top 6 should be the absolute minimum requirement given that parachute payments have allowed us to maintain a wage bill which very few in this division will be able to compete with. Bro.

Libertine To be honest after an underwhelming summer window, a ton of injuries, bringing no one in during the January window to have this team in 6th place is almost a minor miracle.


It really isn't. See above for reason why.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Royal Biscuitman » 27 Mar 2014 12:27

Libertine I think it would be completely nucking futs to sack Adkins. There is always a possibility he walks on his own. There is also the possibility of new ownership who will want to bring in their management team. But barring those two scenarios I see Adkins remaining for the duration of his contract.

To be honest after an underwhelming summer window, a ton of injuries, bringing no one in during the January window to have this team in 6th place is almost a minor miracle. The only things I have to criticize him about was leaving Jobi on the bench for much of the first half of the season and this past game not playing Taylor in CM and leaving Jobi on his usual left side (where he links up well with Obita) and leaving McCleary on his usual right side (where he links up well with Gunter). But other than that, with all the injuries, lack of investment in the playing squad, massive uncertainty in ownership; I think he has done a credible job having us in 6th currently. I don't think there is anyone else out there, who is available, that could have done better with the hand Adkins has been dealt this season.
Reminds me of the season before the 106, Whose to say with a couple of signings and all players fit we won't be real challengers next season.... If we fail to make it this year.

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by sandman » 27 Mar 2014 13:03

Punk Tew Asian At least Nigel has a brilliant record compared with that of the Liverpool manager when he was here... :cry:


Are you saying that the Liverpool manager is a victim and its not his fault?

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Re: Adkins - the alternatives

by Punk Tew Asian » 27 Mar 2014 14:47

sandman
Punk Tew Asian At least Nigel has a brilliant record compared with that of the Liverpool manager when he was here... :cry:


Are you saying that the Liverpool manager is a victim and its not his fault?


Not at all. It was just our rotten luck (but not his, as it's turned out) that the only time in his career when he failed to have success was in his spell as our 1st team manager. There is a parallel there with Adkins so far. Of course, it worked out all right before with Brian taking over; perhaps it would again with Eamonn. Just an observation, not a suggestion that time's up for Adkins. My guess is that he'll be there until the new owner takes over. Then, unless he has his own favourite manager to bring in, in which case Nigel's doomed anyway, one would hope the new owner would judge Nigel on his record here up to that date.

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