Adkins - the alternatives

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Colin.

[Punk Tew Asian]

Colin.

Interesting quote on Wiki: "Warnock, who is qualified as a referee, but has never officiated at the very top level, is renowned for his outbursts, which some see as controversial."

[Green]

I'd like to see Tony Pulis at the helm.

[Royal Lady]

I'd like to see Tony Pulis at the helm.

Good use of helm in relation to Tony Pulis.

[super darren caskey]

Malky Mackay for sure

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I'd like to see Tony Pulis at the helm.

Good use of helm in relation to Tony Pulis.

[Mr.Swainey]

Nice to see that we have covered all of the suitable alternatives lining up to replace Adkins, then. I make it that nobody has mentioned anything realistic or noteworthy.

Fact is, Adkins is one of the best managers in this division, and yet people are still moaning despite us being 6th and having a well documented financial meltdown.

[Ian Royal]

Parachute payments = one of the biggest wage bills in the division. Do you see everything in terms of Championship Manager? Transfer fees are only half the story. Pal.

you're arguing against your own argument now! Keep up bro

Are you struggling with this? I said that top 6 should be the absolute minimum requirement given that parachute payments have allowed us to maintain a wage bill which very few in this division will be able to compete with. Bro.

To be honest after an underwhelming summer window, a ton of injuries, bringing no one in during the January window to have this team in 6th place is almost a minor miracle.

It really isn't. See above for reason why.

Given we only have two strikers and have been blighted by injury and poor form, holding on to sixth is a minor miracle. That doesn't have to conflict with the fact that given our wage budget sixth should be the minimum requirement for success.

It's unlikely anyone will see this season as a success. But the options are not only boolean. By not being a success, it doesn't mean it has to be a terrible failure. Sometimes circumstance plays a major part. And with the long term injuries of Bridge, Morrison and Karacan and the ownership problems that materialised, that has certainly been the case.

For the first time since the transfer windows existed, we didn't sign a single player in one of the windows. That tells you how bad things are. And yet despite having no home form, an injury crisis and no ability to strengthen a squad with large holes after about June, we're still in with a shout at promotion.

That's testament to how far ahead of most of the division we should be, given we're having an absolute 'mare.

[Royal Lady]

If we don't get into the play offs and don't win them and we have next to no money next season and have to sell a lot of our players - will you all be just as laid back and go on about how "we nearly got into the play offs" or "we just missed out on the Prem" next season? It's almost imperative that we go up this season, both in terms of keeping the players we want, being able to afford new ones and attracting a buyer - otherwise, we could just as easily end up like Wolves or, dare I say it, Portsmouth. If changing the manager at the end of the season, especially if we don't go up, (which, let's be serious is pretty unlikely), means that we get someone in who will rebuild and be able to get some sense of togetherness with the squad, then it may not be all doom and gloom. If Adkins fails, despite us "being 6th" now - I really can't see him having it in him to fight next season.

[Ian Royal]

If we don't get into the play offs and don't win them and we have next to no money next season and have to sell a lot of our players - will you all be just as laid back and go on about how "we nearly got into the play offs" or "we just missed out on the Prem" next season? It's almost imperative that we go up this season, both in terms of keeping the players we want, being able to afford new ones and attracting a buyer - otherwise, we could just as easily end up like Wolves or, dare I say it, Portsmouth. If changing the manager at the end of the season, especially if we don't go up, (which, let's be serious is pretty unlikely), means that we get someone in who will rebuild and be able to get some sense of togetherness with the squad, then it may not be all doom and gloom. If Adkins fails, despite us "being 6th" now - I really can't see him having it in him to fight next season.

We'll have to wait and see, but if we can motivate the players we'll have (and we've got a lot of quality youth to step up if necessary) we should be able to survive relegation ok. We should be a reasonably attractive investment for new owners as well, so I'd question how long we'll have to wait before a buyer turns up.

Momentum and inertia play a big part in football, so I'd be cautious about promotion, because we absolutely wouldn;t be good enough to survive without big investment. We've done fine coming down this time compared to a lot of clubs. Who's to say we wouldn't fall apart next time and get a double relegation? Failure breeds failure as success breeds success. The problem with success is it means we have a greater chance for failure to produce more failure next season.

Whereas we can survive on mediocrity until we're ready to step up again.

[Ian Royal]

Malky Mackay for sure

Aye, that'd be very acceptable.

He's in a job at the mo so obviously no chance, but Sean Dyche seems to be a good manager I'd be happy to have here too.

[RoyalBlue]

And in answer to the OP, I'd still advocate that having a joint management team in McD and Copps would be a bloody fantastic duo.

Can you name a successful joint management team? Doesn't work imho, there needs to be a boss making the decisions not a committee.

Quinn and Gooding? McD could do a lot of the training stuff, Copps the behind the scenes stuff and Copps is there to guide McD if he needs it.

Coppell was brilliant with is previously but hasn't exactly set the world on fire since and has just got the push from Portsmouth.

He would be absolutely mad to potentially tarnish our love for him by coming back here to try to undertake what will be a virtually impossible task under two want away owners who wouldn't even back any loan signings for the remainder of this season when we are clearly suffering from lack of cover for injuries (just lack of cover per se up front) and yet are miraculously still managing to cling onto a play off place.

Thank goodness there is no way that Adkins will get the push because Madejski won't want to pay the compensation and is probably smart enough to know that no decent manager in their right mind would want to join the club in the current ownership mess, unless they were very well rewarded. Ask yourselves, would you be prepared to join on a relatively short contract leaving yourself in a position where the next owner can quickly give you the push and bring in their own man at very little cost?

The biggest risk is that Adkins will get peed off with the broken promises and complete lack of backing and will tell the cloth cutter where to stick his job. If he does so, I hope he doesn't go quietly.

If we don't get into the play offs and don't win them and we have next to no money next season and have to sell a lot of our players - will you all be just as laid back and go on about how "we nearly got into the play offs" or "we just missed out on the Prem" next season? It's almost imperative that we go up this season, both in terms of keeping the players we want, being able to afford new ones and attracting a buyer - otherwise, we could just as easily end up like Wolves or, dare I say it, Portsmouth.

What a shame that Saint Madejski clearly doesn't understand that! Let's sink the ship for the sake of a ha'penth of tar!

What have he and Nick Clegg got in common? They both support the Tories and go back on their assurances regarding funding.

[floyd__streete]

Nice to see that we have covered all of the suitable alternatives lining up to replace Adkins, then. I make it that nobody has mentioned anything realistic or noteworthy.

Eamonn Dolan. Been at the club a decade and knows the club inside out, that has worked well for us before of course. Fire sale coming in the summer, who knows our academy products better than Eamonn Dolan? Give Dolan the job with the brief of keeping the club in the Championship. Then perhaps be honest with the fans that that is the target and you may find people might just get behind it. It would certainly be a whole lot more honest than saying pledging to score 100 goals and keep 21 clean sheets.

[harry]

Malky Mackay for sure

Aye, that'd be very acceptable.

He's in a job at the mo so obviously no chance, but Sean Dyche seems to be a good manager I'd be happy to have here too.

Why on earth would Dyche come here? He'll be in the Prem next year thanks to massive overachievement. Much like Brian, his main risk is being a victim of his own success - getting a team of also-rans promoted with no hope of keeping them up.

[harry]

Colin.

Interesting quote on Wiki: "Warnock, who is qualified as a referee, but has never officiated at the very top level, is renowned for his outbursts, which some see as controversial."

Some? World's greatest understatement!

[under the tin]

Why on earth would Dyche come here? He'll be in the Prem next year thanks to massive overachievement. Much like Brian, his main risk is being a victim of his own success - getting a team of also-rans promoted with no hope of keeping them up.

Ab-so bleedin lutely.

Time and time again promotion has proven to be a poisoned chalice.
Dyche's days at Burnley are already numbered.
If he does well next season, he will get poached by another club.
If the fully expected relegation looms high on the horizon, then the bloke currently lauded by the owners up there as the best thing since sliced bread will suddenly become a liability that urgently needs replacement.

The Premier League. Football at its most fickle.

[Zana Badawi]

Nice to see that we have covered all of the suitable alternatives lining up to replace Adkins, then. I make it that nobody has mentioned anything realistic or noteworthy.

Eamonn

I have the distinct impression he doesnt want a first team manager position.

[loyalroyal4life]

Have to agree with people saying top 6 is minimum this season, think the league standard in general is poor, should have done better with CURRENT squad, ok we have had injuries but still, it does not amount to not being able to beat the likes of barnsley and yeovil at home!!!

Think finishing top 6 could be a catch 22 in that it may result in Adkins keeping his job for next season, personally I do not think he is right for us long term. Never warmed to the guy and minus 45 mins of Watford have not enjoyed watching anything served up at home by the players this season

[Cureton's Volley]

Nice to see that we have covered all of the suitable alternatives lining up to replace Adkins, then. I make it that nobody has mentioned anything realistic or noteworthy.

Eamonn Dolan. Been at the club a decade and knows the club inside out, that has worked well for us before of course. Fire sale coming in the summer, who knows our academy products better than Eamonn Dolan? Give Dolan the job with the brief of keeping the club in the Championship. Then perhaps be honest with the fans that that is the target and you may find people might just get behind it. It would certainly be a whole lot more honest than saying pledging to score 100 goals and keep 21 clean sheets.

This would work just fine I feel. A team built on home grown youth battling for survival next season, maturing the year after, pushing for promotion the year after that. That would be a proper transformation. Right now there is nothing except smoke & mirrors.

[Ian Royal]

Malky Mackay for sure

Aye, that'd be very acceptable.

He's in a job at the mo so obviously no chance, but Sean Dyche seems to be a good manager I'd be happy to have here too.

Why on earth would Dyche come here? He'll be in the Prem next year thanks to massive overachievement. Much like Brian, his main risk is being a victim of his own success - getting a team of also-rans promoted with no hope of keeping them up.

What part of me saying there's no chance of him coming here was it you didn't understand?