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by urz13 » 25 Oct 2014 19:10

What is it with defending corners at the moment? We've conceded from 4 corners in the last 6 games and Blackpool game very close to making that 5 in 6 early in the second half. We should only be conceding from corners 7 or 8 times a season, not virtually very game. Sort it out Adkins.

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by 3points » 25 Oct 2014 19:46

And ours attacking corners are rubbish as well. At least in the second half we stopped hitting everything beyond the back post

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by Royal Ginger » 25 Oct 2014 21:29

Gunter always seems outmatched by who he's marking at a corner.

Offensive corner: Back post to Pearce who nods it back across...plan B anyone?

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by 3points » 25 Oct 2014 21:34

Royal Ginger Gunter always seems outmatched by who he's marking at a corner.

Offensive corner: Back post to Pearce who nods it back across...plan B anyone?

If only Pearce did nod it back more than once every three games. Second half we did put a couple into the six yard box which look more dangerous

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by MmmMonsterMunch » 25 Oct 2014 21:37

Royal Ginger Gunter always seems outmatched by who he's marking at a corner.

Offensive corner: Back post to Pearce who nods it back across...plan B anyone?


It's getting absolutely infuriating now :twisted:


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by EarleyRoyal16 » 26 Oct 2014 06:55

It's not just corners though it's almost every attacking set piece. Norwood or Obita take the free kick and without fail always knock it to the back post where Pearce is waiting to do nothing with it. Every single time. Genuinely frustrating every time we get a free kick or a corner because we know it's going to back post and nothing will come of it.

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by Pandoras Box » 26 Oct 2014 08:32

Genuinely frustrating every time we get a free kick or a corner because we know it's going to back post and nothing will come of it.
Even more frustrating when you know that the opposing team knows it as well.

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by Ian Royal » 26 Oct 2014 19:10

We do need to vary it up a bit, but it's hardly every time at all. It'd be just nice if the quality of ball was better wherever it goes. Too many overshoot the far post and have to be chased. Then there's the godawful short corners we try sometimes (although it did work once I think, by accident) and then there's the ones blasted at the wall (fks) or easily cleared in the middle of the box (cnrs)

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by blueroyals » 26 Oct 2014 23:28

Attacking is even worse. We've been knocking it to Pearce at the back post since it worked once against Wigan. Not worked since? Mix it up ffs.

Our set pieces have generally been poor since Adkins took over.


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by tidus_mi2 » 27 Oct 2014 00:31

Simply changing it up is going to throw teams off, right now, anyone who does their research on Reading will know, mark up Pearcey and Reading will never score from a corner.

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by marcusopp » 27 Oct 2014 06:52

Speaking as a defender, the most effective way to defend a corner is to put a big man free at the front post.
A good proportion of corners are under hit, he then heads it away unchallenged.
Wet spam do this with Carlton Cole, Chelsea with Drogba and so on. If We did the same thing, only half the corners conceded would even make it into the 6 yard area!

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by wally bassoon » 27 Oct 2014 10:56

We scored from a well worked near post corner v Millwall, somebody flicked it on to Cox who crashed it in. Seemed to have abandoned that now.

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by wingnut » 27 Oct 2014 11:34

That near post corner is very easy to defend tho. I said at the time, if I was a Millwall fan I'd've been livid at conceding that goal - as I was when we conceded the first against Derby. Their corner was so weakly hit it should've been piss-easy to clear.


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by Ian Royal » 27 Oct 2014 17:17

tidus_mi2 Simply changing it up is going to throw teams off, right now, anyone who does their research on Reading will know, mark up Pearcey and Reading will never score from a corner.

You'll notice that Pearce is marked in the build up to the corner. The trick is he and Hector help each other lose their man.

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by jazz » 27 Oct 2014 19:23

tidus_mi2 Simply changing it up is going to throw teams off, right now, anyone who does their research on Reading will know, mark up Pearcey and Reading will never score from a corner.


Spot on chief.

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by Extended-Phenotype » 28 Oct 2014 10:59

Corners are overvalued anyway. Can't remember the exact stats but very few corners result in goals being scored, yet fans celebrate them like they are a goal sometimes. What's so great about being able to put a cross into a box which is being defended more heavily than at any other time by a defence that has had more time than any other point in the game to get organised?

Most are over-hit or under-hit too. Far better playing a short corner and just getting on with the game.

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by Ian Royal » 28 Oct 2014 11:56

Extended-Phenotype Corners are overvalued anyway. Can't remember the exact stats but very few corners result in goals being scored, yet fans celebrate them like they are a goal sometimes. What's so great about being able to put a cross into a box which is being defended more heavily than at any other time by a defence that has had more time than any other point in the game to get organised?

Most are over-hit or under-hit too. Far better playing a short corner and just getting on with the game.

A ball into the box is more likely to lead to a goal than a ball back down the wing and into midfield with an organised defence set. And sustaining pressure penning the opposition in their box is more likely to me lead to.errors.

its about posing varied questions of defenders. And like all things in football the quality of how you do something is more valuable than the type of thing you're doing.

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Re: Corners

by bcubed » 28 Oct 2014 14:14

Extended-Phenotype Corners are overvalued anyway. Can't remember the exact stats but very few corners result in goals being scored, yet fans celebrate them like they are a goal sometimes. What's so great about being able to put a cross into a box which is being defended more heavily than at any other time by a defence that has had more time than any other point in the game to get organised?

Most are over-hit or under-hit too. Far better playing a short corner and just getting on with the game.


Something like 3%

And probably much less for goals from Reading corners!

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by Ian Royal » 28 Oct 2014 14:40

bcubed
Extended-Phenotype Corners are overvalued anyway. Can't remember the exact stats but very few corners result in goals being scored, yet fans celebrate them like they are a goal sometimes. What's so great about being able to put a cross into a box which is being defended more heavily than at any other time by a defence that has had more time than any other point in the game to get organised?

Most are over-hit or under-hit too. Far better playing a short corner and just getting on with the game.


Something like 3%

And probably much less for goals from Reading corners!

People.always say that, bu we've had some pretty good seasons for scoring from corners.

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by Extended-Phenotype » 28 Oct 2014 14:53

Ian Royal
Extended-Phenotype Corners are overvalued anyway. Can't remember the exact stats but very few corners result in goals being scored, yet fans celebrate them like they are a goal sometimes. What's so great about being able to put a cross into a box which is being defended more heavily than at any other time by a defence that has had more time than any other point in the game to get organised?

Most are over-hit or under-hit too. Far better playing a short corner and just getting on with the game.

A ball into the box is more likely to lead to a goal than a ball back down the wing and into midfield with an organised defence set. And sustaining pressure penning the opposition in their box is more likely to me lead to.errors.

its about posing varied questions of defenders. And like all things in football the quality of how you do something is more valuable than the type of thing you're doing.


A ball into the box when the box's defence is at it's most populated and organised isn't IMO. And the stats kinda agree with that opinion, though plenty of teams still go for the long corner: I guess there is something in it.

Still not going to get excited when any team gets a corner.

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