Adkins -what next?

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what next for Adkins?

Had enough -he's got to go
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Stay -he's still the right man for the job
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Give him until the end of December
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I'm Ian Royal -What problems?
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Re: Adkins -what next?

by SCIAG » 13 Dec 2014 20:50

Royal Lady He's got a proven track record and improving all the time? WTAF - he's deluded. Just get rid now before he "improves" any more :evil:

He won promotion from this division with a newly promoted Southampton. Yes, he has a track record.

Things certainly seem to be getting worse, but I don't see what good sacking him would do.

Paying off Drenthe's contract is laughable. He isn't even at the club. If our players are worried about how much he's earning then they're idiots. Would they really feel better knowing he'd got a big lump sum instead?

Also :lol: @ any attempts to pin our downturn in form on Guthrie. He's been injured all season, and our form was significantly better with him in the side.

Back on topic, I don't see much point in sacking Adkins unless we replace him with someone with a proven track record of improving teams defensively.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Royal Lady » 13 Dec 2014 21:04

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Royal Lady He's got a proven track record and improving all the time? WTAF - he's deluded. Just get rid now before he "improves" any more :evil:

He won promotion from this division with a newly promoted Southampton. Yes, he has a track record.

Things certainly seem to be getting worse, but I don't see what good sacking him would do.

Paying off Drenthe's contract is laughable. He isn't even at the club. If our players are worried about how much he's earning then they're idiots. Would they really feel better knowing he'd got a big lump sum instead?

Also :lol: @ any attempts to pin our downturn in form on Guthrie. He's been injured all season, and our form was significantly better with him in the side.

Back on topic, I don't see much point in sacking Adkins unless we replace him with someone with a proven track record of improving teams defensively.

My point being, clearly, how can he say he is IMPROVING?? Just get rid and get someone in who is hungry and wants to give it a go, not harping back to what he USED to be like

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Dec 2014 21:09

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Froomes » 13 Dec 2014 21:13

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Things certainly seem to be getting worse, but I don't see what good sacking him would do.


I'd have thought the team that embarrassed us today would be a pretty good indicator of what can be achieved by getting rid of a manager who clearly can't get the best out of a group of players, seeing as a little over a month ago they got hammered 8-0 promptly binned their manager and hey presto a few weeks later they hammer us 6-1, and go from relegation certainties to a team rising up the league...

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Bristol Paul » 13 Dec 2014 21:15

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brighton_royal I say give him a chance to explain things on TV first and if he even suggests that that he's going to take the positives from the match and move on then set fire to his contract, maybe offer him the physio job and get someone who's not a tactical abortion to steer us to 15 straight wins, including winning the FA cup.


Manager Nigel Adkins elected to lead from the front when speaking to the press after our heavy defeat at Birmingham.

The emotion of a 6-1 defeat can understandably overtake any post-match analysis, be it supporter, manager or journalist, and while the boss refused to hide away from the scoreline, he also chose to show leadership and stop short of publicly criticising a team which include centre halves of just 19 and 22 years of age.

He said, "It’s a very poor scoreline and obviously very disappointing.

"We will reflect upon it and sometimes you can say words that are emotional after a game so, we’ll reflect upon it in the cold light of day and then we’ve got to pick ourselves up and get ready to go again.

"Believe you me, I've a very proud man and I hate losing. I'm taking the emotion away from maybe saying something I will regret, because I think that's sensible at this moment in time, because I have to pick the guys up and go again.

"I've also got to pick the club up, I think that's important. Like I say I'm very proud in what I do and I think that's the best angle for me to take on it right now.

"We give Birmingham credit because they have turned their season around. Their confidence was growing and we have given away goals that are poor from our point of view and well dispatched from theirs.

"At 2-1 down I believed we could go on to win but they have capitalised on a number of situations and got the result.

"I think I put a team out that before the game everyone would have been happy with. Two out-and-out wingers, two strikers, goals in the team, energy, passing ability, youngsters at centre half and experienced full backs. We had 70% possession first half, chances, Randolph made a couple of saves but you can't legislate for goals given away, they were poor goals.

"We're mid-table, it's a heavy defeat and there's no problem with people asking questions. But I know I'm resilient, there's a lot of grit, I'll reflect on today, lead from the front and will be up and raring to go because we've got to turn it around.

"We are all deeply, deeply disappointed. I highlight the supporters all the time and I was talking to a lot of them before kick-off and we appreciate their efforts. Unfortunately today it was a very poor scoreline."

He continued, "I think I've got a proven track record and am becoming better all the time with these experiences. It's a shame we're in this situation, we have to go again. You know me, I don't highlight things, we just have to keep going and moving forward.

"[Injuries] are not a situation we want to talk about because everyone gets them. Yes we're blooding youngsters and because of that you get mistakes, but they'll become better and the club is better long term. Financially people can talk about that, it has been highlighted, but from my point of view I'll keep presenting the club in the right manner and keep working hard to get it right."
Read more at http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article ... o408e42.99


Thanks, but what's the point of repeating all that if its readily available on the official website???


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Re: Adkins -what next?

by me » 13 Dec 2014 21:23

I hate calling for people to be sacked, it's a hateful thing and although football is a bubble, you should remember that this is a mans livelihood. However it's a results business and he is not performing. He would undoubtedly argue privately that the mitigation is that he has not been backed as promised and he is working with his hands tied behind his back.

Having said that, the club need to see that there is massive frustration in the stands and people are voting with their feet. Lower crowds equals less revenue which makes it all the harder to achieve FFP. That will result in more people losing their jobs behind the scenes - dedicated people who make the club what it is.

Therefore it's regrettably time for a change. The club needs some fresh energy and fresh thinking to address the decline. FWIW, my opinion is never go back - Keep previous managers in the past and find somebody to take us further than before.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by AthleticoSpizz » 13 Dec 2014 21:25

It's all down to the next game and how the players (and manager) react.

Nigels' team selection was pretty much was spot-on at 14.59pm today.

Maybe it's just that we are not a team....just a team of individuals?

Cannot see the benefit of a sacking, this side of May

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by leon » 13 Dec 2014 21:30

seanboyd_2 Mods, please remove these posts.

Also please timeout or ban offenders, pointless post's.


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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Hoop Blah » 13 Dec 2014 21:33

SCIAG Back on topic, I don't see much point in sacking Adkins unless we replace him with someone with a proven track record of improving teams defensively.


I don't think we could find a manager to do a worse job of organising us defensively than Adkins to be honest.

My choice for his replacement would be Steve Clark as it happens, and he, like just about any manager worth their salts would be able to tighten us up and inject some passion and urgency into this side compared to where we are at the moment.


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Re: Adkins -what next?

by tee peg » 13 Dec 2014 21:40

Eamon Dolan.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by melonhead » 14 Dec 2014 00:00

Actually don't mind anything he's said there.
No point bawling out kids, or players we had no choice but to play.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by leon » 14 Dec 2014 01:19

melonhead Actually don't mind anything he's said there.
No point bawling out kids, or players we had no choice but to play.


No, not when he's responsible for this shitty state of affairs.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 14 Dec 2014 08:09

Well had a night to sleep on it, can't get the highlights on iplayer, and I still think time to go. If he doesnt get dismissed then we should hear something from the distant people that own the club.
Or are they happy to letbothers take all the blame, and give Atkins no support whatsoever.


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Re: Adkins -what next?

by winchester_royal » 14 Dec 2014 08:20

me I hate calling for people to be sacked, it's a hateful thing and although football is a bubble, you should remember that this is a mans livelihood. However it's a results business and he is not performing. He would undoubtedly argue privately that the mitigation is that he has not been backed as promised and he is working with his hands tied behind his back.

Having said that, the club need to see that there is massive frustration in the stands and people are voting with their feet. Lower crowds equals less revenue which makes it all the harder to achieve FFP. That will result in more people losing their jobs behind the scenes - dedicated people who make the club what it is.

Therefore it's regrettably time for a change. The club needs some fresh energy and fresh thinking to address the decline. FWIW, my opinion is never go back - Keep previous managers in the past and find somebody to take us further than before.


Good post, completely agree.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by genome » 14 Dec 2014 09:30

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by biff » 14 Dec 2014 11:06

Cant abide by people that want Adkins to stay on the premise that he's DEFINITELY going to get better and Reading are going to climb the league. Football is a pantomime, sod being loyal to a shit manager who has conspired, in 80 games, to drag Reading back to the dark ages. Get another manager in, and lets have some fun for an hour and a half every saturday. Its football, the guys seemingly a useless pr1ck, lets get rid and move on.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by M Brook » 14 Dec 2014 11:12

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by paddy20 » 14 Dec 2014 11:46

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brighton_royal I say give him a chance to explain things on TV first and if he even suggests that that he's going to take the positives from the match and move on then set fire to his contract, maybe offer him the physio job and get someone who's not a tactical abortion to steer us to 15 straight wins, including winning the FA cup.


Manager Nigel Adkins elected to lead from the front when speaking to the press after our heavy defeat at Birmingham.

The emotion of a 6-1 defeat can understandably overtake any post-match analysis, be it supporter, manager or journalist, and while the boss refused to hide away from the scoreline, he also chose to show leadership and stop short of publicly criticising a team which include centre halves of just 19 and 22 years of age.

He said, "It’s a very poor scoreline and obviously very disappointing.

"We will reflect upon it and sometimes you can say words that are emotional after a game so, we’ll reflect upon it in the cold light of day and then we’ve got to pick ourselves up and get ready to go again.

"Believe you me, I've a very proud man and I hate losing. I'm taking the emotion away from maybe saying something I will regret, because I think that's sensible at this moment in time, because I have to pick the guys up and go again.

"I've also got to pick the club up, I think that's important. Like I say I'm very proud in what I do and I think that's the best angle for me to take on it right now.

"We give Birmingham credit because they have turned their season around. Their confidence was growing and we have given away goals that are poor from our point of view and well dispatched from theirs.

"At 2-1 down I believed we could go on to win but they have capitalised on a number of situations and got the result.

"I think I put a team out that before the game everyone would have been happy with. Two out-and-out wingers, two strikers, goals in the team, energy, passing ability, youngsters at centre half and experienced full backs. We had 70% possession first half, chances, Randolph made a couple of saves but you can't legislate for goals given away, they were poor goals.

"We're mid-table, it's a heavy defeat and there's no problem with people asking questions. But I know I'm resilient, there's a lot of grit, I'll reflect on today, lead from the front and will be up and raring to go because we've got to turn it around.

"We are all deeply, deeply disappointed. I highlight the supporters all the time and I was talking to a lot of them before kick-off and we appreciate their efforts. Unfortunately today it was a very poor scoreline."

He continued, "I think I've got a proven track record and am becoming better all the time with these experiences. It's a shame we're in this situation, we have to go again. You know me, I don't highlight things, we just have to keep going and moving forward.

"[Injuries] are not a situation we want to talk about because everyone gets them. Yes we're blooding youngsters and because of that you get mistakes, but they'll become better and the club is better long term. Financially people can talk about that, it has been highlighted, but from my point of view I'll keep presenting the club in the right manner and keep working hard to get it right."
Read more at http://www.readingfc.co.uk/news/article ... o408e42.99



Christ Nigel just how wrong can you be? The supporters do want to hear passion and emotion. We play like robots and we can see why! Passion can win you a game. Just throw those books away Nigel let your hair down, have a rant, lose control. Thats your last hope

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by Mr.Swainey » 14 Dec 2014 12:24

Refusing to attend any game until Adkins is sacked. A stain on our club.

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Re: Adkins -what next?

by howser » 14 Dec 2014 13:06

Historically behind the scenes issues end up on the park, Glasgow Rangers a fine example of this. There is no question there are problems off the pitch at the Mad Stad the secrecy about the new owners, has SJM sold out to another dud ownership ? who are they ? what are their ambitions ? too many unanswered questions that are undoubtedly causing issue on the pitch. However there comes a time when someone has to take the bull by the horns and make some serious decisions.

I have always been an admirer of Adkins for what he has achived before taking this poisen challice job, he is very honourable and loyal to the "owners" but the time has come for him to do the honourable thing and stand down.

Sad as it would be to see him go he has very little support, if any, from the fans and would seem no backing from the board of the secret society, he is only going to damamge his reputation more if he stays as he will forever be the brunt of the fans bitter feelings, where in all honesty he is being hung out to dry by our week, poor club management.

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