CONFIMRED - Jem to Gala

[howser]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

[maffff]

Psh, loyalty.

[From Despair To Where?]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

Hmm, so he can endure a championship relegation dogfight in front of 13,000 whinging miserabilists or he can go to the team he supports, experience a different country and culture, play in Europe, challenge for the league title and play in front of 50,000 screaming Turkish mentalists.

Hmm, tough choice. Let's just accept that 99.99% of professional footballers would chose Galatasaray over Reading every day of the week.

[Sutekh]

Don't worry I fully expect the UK Security Services to prevent him travelling.

[howser]

[quote="From Despair To Where?"][quote="howser"]After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.[/quote]

Hmm, so he can endure a championship relegation dogfight in front of 13,000 whinging miserabilists or he can go to the team he supports, experience a different country and culture, play in Europe, challenge for the league title and play in front of 50,000 screaming Turkish mentalists.

Hmm, tough choice. Let's just accept that 99.99% of professional footballers would chose Galatasaray over Reading every day of the week.[/quote]

He was going to go whether it was Galatasaray, Watford or Bournemouth

[WoodleyRoyal]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

I don't get this argument, my employers over the years have invested and trained me, but i have no remorse that i have left them for better opportunities. I want to be the best i can be, and so will he. He is not a Reading FC fan he doesn't think about the club the same way a fan would, to him they are just his employer. Every single fan of this club who if put in karacan position would jump at the chance to play for a club that has the pedigree of Galatasaray.

[From Despair To Where?]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

I don't get this argument, my employers over the years have invested and trained me, but i have no remorse that i have left them for better opportunities. I want to be the best i can be, and so will he. He is not a Reading FC fan he doesn't think about the club the same way a fan would, to him they are just his employer. Every single fan of this club who if put in karacan position would jump at the chance to play fore a club that has the pedigree of Galatasaray.

Exactly, people change jobs every day, he's moving on to bigger and better things, good luck to him.

[Aubery Boyce]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

I don't get this argument, my employers over the years have invested and trained me, but i have no remorse that i have left them for better opportunities. I want to be the best i can be, and so will he. He is not a Reading FC fan he doesn't think about the club the same way a fan would, to him they are just his employer. Every single fan of this club who if put in karacan position would jump at the chance to play for a club that has the pedigree of Galatasaray.

FACT

[Sutekh]

I promise you I wouldn't. FACT.

[howser]

Thing is guys at the moment he is, maybe, possibly going to join Galatasary and yes I accept that is better and more challenging for him, far less likely to get injured again sitting on the bench, but would you all be saying "good on him" if he had gone to either of the other two clubs he was linked with, Watford and Bournemouth ? yes they are Premiership sides, well for one season anyway. Fact is he was going to go whatever, Galatasary has just glossed that decision, the sign that he and the other two "heroes" were going to leave was pretty clear from their love in, at the end of final match at Derby last season.

[Za Vas]

Thing is guys at the moment he is, maybe, possibly going to join Galatasary and yes I accept that is better and more challenging for him, far less likely to get injured again sitting on the bench, but would you all be saying "good on him" if he had gone to either of the other two clubs he was linked with, Watford and Bournemouth ? yes they are Premiership sides, well for one season anyway. Fact is he was going to go whatever, Galatasary has just glossed that decision, the sign that he and the other two "heroes" were going to leave was pretty clear from their love in, at the end of final match at Derby last season.

Reflecting on many of the reactions on the Pearce and Federici threads, yes, I think a lot would...

[Ian Royal]

After spending the best part of the last three seasons getting him fit a bit of loyalty wouldn't have gone amiss but that was far too much to expect I suppose, as with the other two that have left, I get bored shitless with their leaving speeches that they needed "a new challange" utter crap, if Reading had upped their individual salaries they would have signed an given us the " I never wanted to leave Reading, I love this club". Another fine example of when the going gets tough the weak go running.

I don't get this argument, my employers over the years have invested and trained me, but i have no remorse that i have left them for better opportunities. I want to be the best i can be, and so will he. He is not a Reading FC fan he doesn't think about the club the same way a fan would, to him they are just his employer. Every single fan of this club who if put in karacan position would jump at the chance to play for a club that has the pedigree of Galatasaray.

Come on, get a grip ffs. It's not like we were contractually obliged to look after his fitness when he was injured whilst working for us.

[From Despair To Where?]

Thing is guys at the moment he is, maybe, possibly going to join Galatasary and yes I accept that is better and more challenging for him, far less likely to get injured again sitting on the bench, but would you all be saying "good on him" if he had gone to either of the other two clubs he was linked with, Watford and Bournemouth ? yes they are Premiership sides, well for one season anyway. Fact is he was going to go whatever, Galatasary has just glossed that decision, the sign that he and the other two "heroes" were going to leave was pretty clear from their love in, at the end of final match at Derby last season.

Yes I would, if he feels it's the right move for him, good luck to him. On the evidence of last season, they are much better teams than us.

As for this injury/loyalty thing, he got injured in the workplace, doing his job so the club have an obligation, and it also in the club's best interests, to rehabilitate one of its assets.


Would a company hold on to a vehicle that was too expensive to run, just because it "owed" you for repairing it after an accident 2 years previously?

[Royal_jimmy]

All I can say is that I am totally gutted. However, good luck to him he deserves his move!

[poohs pure]

Bingo.

[Nameless]

If the club had simply said 'sorry Jem, we've wasted 2 years wages on you while you've been injured and we aren't going to give you a new deal' there would have been an outcry.
I agree that generally loyalty is pretty much dead in football but I also do agree that sometimes it would be nice to hear a player saying that they are prepared to accept a lower wage (as in 'just' a million for the season) because they haven't performed for the past couple of years. Won't happen, but would be nice.
Obviously all that motivates players these days is maximising their earnings. Who do anything remotely reasonable, I do wonder whether most players get as much enjoyment out of playing the game as their lower paid predecessors did. I doubt it worries too many of them though!

[melonhead]

- Team he and his family support
- Chance for the National team
- Champions League Football
- Better Weather
- Better Wages


I love Jem, but if he's handed this opportunity, he has to take it.

^^^^^^^^

[maffff]

Also it's one of the few Turkish clubs likely to actually pay him his contracted wage.

[floyd__streete]

With his injury record I'd suggest he might be better suited to Gala Bingo than Galatasaray.

Given the wages he has earned for being all permanently indisposesd for the best part of 3 years you think that he might want to give something back to the club even on reduced terms. There you go, modern football(ers) for you. So long and thanks for all the running around and trying hard when you did make it onto the pitch.

[SCIAG]

Injury record more or less in full since becoming first choice roughly when Rodgers took over:

- Out from 20th February 2010. Returned to action 5th April 2010. Missed 10 matches (appeared on bench three times)
- Our from 6th April 2012 (v Leeds). Returned 22nd August 2012. Missed 6 matches.
- Out from 20th October 2012. Returned 22nd December 2012. Missed 11 matches.
- Out from 18th September 2013. Returned 10th January 2015. Missed about 70 matches.
- Some minor injuries in 2015. Missed maybe 5 matches.

With a better injury record, he could have made another 100 appearances for us, putting him on about 275. As it is, he didn't even make as many as Steve Sidwell.