by Forbury Lion » 04 Sep 2018 14:44
Forbury Lion So.... those who, over the years voiced a desire for Sir John to step aside and let rich owners take over..... How's that worked out?
Anton came from a rich family... but had his pocket money stopped
The Thai's had loads of money and wanted to hang onto it/make more from the land
The Chinese are loaded but don't seem to have any interest in the management of the club
The rich get rich and stay rich for a reason, Sir John was our Jack Walker, he wasn't in it for the money as much as the plaudits... everyone else who has come since
I miss the Madejski way of doing things.
by Forbury Lion » 04 Sep 2018 15:07
Long term maybe, but I can't help thinking the club would be in less of a mess now if Sir John was still in charge - on the downside, we would have likely missed out on winning the championship under McDermot and one terrible season in the premiership without Anton's short term cash injection but the ship would have been straightened and we would have kicked on.Old Man AndrewsForbury Lion So.... those who, over the years voiced a desire for Sir John to step aside and let rich owners take over..... How's that worked out?
Anton came from a rich family... but had his pocket money stopped
The Thai's had loads of money and wanted to hang onto it/make more from the land
The Chinese are loaded but don't seem to have any interest in the management of the club
The rich get rich and stay rich for a reason, Sir John was our Jack Walker, he wasn't in it for the money as much as the plaudits... everyone else who has come since
I miss the Madejski way of doing things.
The Madejski way is unsustainable in modern football. Unless you'd like us to be a National League side??
by windermereROYAL » 04 Sep 2018 15:17
by NewCorkSeth » 04 Sep 2018 15:19
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Of course nobody doubts the good he did for the club, but his choice of new owners was questionable to say the least.
by John Smith » 04 Sep 2018 15:20
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
by windermereROYAL » 04 Sep 2018 15:23
NewCorkSethwindermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Of course nobody doubts the good he did for the club, but his choice of new owners was questionable to say the least.
A Brighton? What exactly is that?
by Maneki Neko » 04 Sep 2018 15:24
Forbury LionLong term maybe, but I can't help thinking the club would be in less of a mess now if Sir John was still in charge - on the downside, we would have likely missed out on winning the championship under McDermot and one terrible season in the premiership without Anton's short term cash injection but the ship would have been straightened and we would have kicked on.Old Man AndrewsForbury Lion So.... those who, over the years voiced a desire for Sir John to step aside and let rich owners take over..... How's that worked out?
Anton came from a rich family... but had his pocket money stopped
The Thai's had loads of money and wanted to hang onto it/make more from the land
The Chinese are loaded but don't seem to have any interest in the management of the club
The rich get rich and stay rich for a reason, Sir John was our Jack Walker, he wasn't in it for the money as much as the plaudits... everyone else who has come since
I miss the Madejski way of doing things.
The Madejski way is unsustainable in modern football. Unless you'd like us to be a National League side??
by NewCorkSeth » 04 Sep 2018 15:26
windermereROYALNewCorkSethwindermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Of course nobody doubts the good he did for the club, but his choice of new owners was questionable to say the least.
A Brighton? What exactly is that?
Teams the have been on level playing field as us but now leaving us behind
by Maneki Neko » 04 Sep 2018 15:31
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Of course nobody doubts the good he did for the club, but his choice of new owners was questionable to say the least.
I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages
by LWJ » 04 Sep 2018 15:36
RoyalBlue .
by Denver Royal » 04 Sep 2018 15:42
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Sep 2018 15:45
Old Man AndrewsForbury Lion So.... those who, over the years voiced a desire for Sir John to step aside and let rich owners take over..... How's that worked out?
Anton came from a rich family... but had his pocket money stopped
The Thai's had loads of money and wanted to hang onto it/make more from the land
The Chinese are loaded but don't seem to have any interest in the management of the club
The rich get rich and stay rich for a reason, Sir John was our Jack Walker, he wasn't in it for the money as much as the plaudits... everyone else who has come since
I miss the Madejski way of doing things.
The Madejski way is unsustainable in modern football. Unless you'd like us to be a National League side??
by Snowflake Royal » 04 Sep 2018 15:50
Denver RoyalwindermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Yep, it was considered slanderous by some to say that at the time (or to even think it), but it's true, I think. Whether he could have afforded it is another matter, but it was clear that one way or another more investment was needed to keep us there.
Similar would be required if we went up now. The PL is what it is, and we don't get to set the rules. I'm not sure any club of our approx size who goes up totally embraces everything the PL embodies.
by Nomad_Royal » 04 Sep 2018 16:40
Denver RoyalwindermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Yep, it was considered slanderous by some to say that at the time (or to even think it), but it's true, I think. Whether he could have afforded it is another matter, but it was clear that one way or another more investment was needed to keep us there.
Similar would be required if we went up now. The PL is what it is, and we don't get to set the rules. I'm not sure any club of our approx size who goes up totally embraces everything the PL embodies.
by Nomad_Royal » 04 Sep 2018 16:44
Snowflake RoyalDenver RoyalwindermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Yep, it was considered slanderous by some to say that at the time (or to even think it), but it's true, I think. Whether he could have afforded it is another matter, but it was clear that one way or another more investment was needed to keep us there.
Similar would be required if we went up now. The PL is what it is, and we don't get to set the rules. I'm not sure any club of our approx size who goes up totally embraces everything the PL embodies.
We got promoted in 2005/06. We finished 8th in 2006/07. We got relegated in 2007/08. Now what was it that happened in around 2008? Oh that's right, the GEC where Madejski lost approximately half his fortune having sunk a lot of it into print media and developing real estate in the centre of Reading. Then Anton sodded off having got us into stupid debt and Madejski kept us afloat until someone else could save us, even though he couldn't really afford us anymore.
by bobby1413 » 04 Sep 2018 17:01
by under the tin » 04 Sep 2018 17:28
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival. I still don't believe all that TV money went out on wages, Bournemouth get crowds of 11.000 for Christ sake. it was a big chance missed and we went down in the 2nd season.
Of course nobody doubts the good he did for the club, but his choice of new owners was questionable to say the least.
by Denver Royal » 04 Sep 2018 17:41
Nomad_Royal I love the idea of encouraging someone else to gamble their money.
by Lower West » 04 Sep 2018 17:59
windermereROYAL If sir John had just taken the risk and invested in our great 2006 side we could have been a Bournemouth or Brighton, instead he was scared of the huge costs of sustaining PL survival.
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