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Re: Fans’ takeover

by NathStPaul » 28 Jun 2023 10:09

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morganb If there was a fan takeover you would really want to maximise profits so you would need to find alternative uses for the stadium when it wasn't in use (pretty much every other weekend and through the summer months).

Would there be any mileage in using the stadium for other things like pop concerts or as a wedding venue. What do other teams do to get more money into their clubs?

Giving away free chicken wings for goals scored/conceded will simply eat into these profits.

To be clear you are endorsing the live sex show at half time?
Will this replace the free pizza?
Do the lucky row get to take part and if so, will it be in seat number order? (asking for a friend who may want to switch seats)

I was thinking it would be more a couples thing. Lots of couples got to games together and this is an opportunity to make love on the centre circle at half time, it is quite appealing I think. They'd be a bed, duvet etc to keep it dignified.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Brogue » 28 Jun 2023 10:11

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NathStPaul To be clear you are endorsing the live sex show at half time?
Will this replace the free pizza?
Do the lucky row get to take part and if so, will it be in seat number order? (asking for a friend who may want to switch seats)

I was thinking it would be more a couples thing. Lots of couples got to games together and this is an opportunity to make love on the centre circle at half time, it is quite appealing I think. They'd be a bed, duvet etc to keep it dignified.


or you could put loads of prostitutes in the directors boxes with red florescent lights above them, they could then be auctioned off to the biggest virgins on Reading football social media - here twitter etc

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by NathStPaul » 28 Jun 2023 10:15

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Do the lucky row get to take part and if so, will it be in seat number order? (asking for a friend who may want to switch seats)

I was thinking it would be more a couples thing. Lots of couples got to games together and this is an opportunity to make love on the centre circle at half time, it is quite appealing I think. They'd be a bed, duvet etc to keep it dignified.


or you could put loads of prostitutes in the directors boxes with red florescent lights above them, they could then be auctioned off to the biggest virgins on Reading football social media - here twitter etc

That's a good shout. So at half time we draw out the names and the winners are sent up to the box which is essentially made to look like a high end strip club. When there is a stoppage in play live footage of what is happening inside the box is shown on the big screen.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Dirk Gently » 28 Jun 2023 10:30

On Strings Any fan ownership wouldn't last long. #SellBeforeWeDai have looked into this (STAR) and found that in most case's the Clubs have to find a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years. We really need to hope the next buyer is a decent one, but I've lost all faith in that after the corrupt Zingarevich's, asset stripping Thai's, and now the multi Club killing Dai's.


How depressingly small-minded and defeatist.

"If our club is in danger of going out of existence we won't bother to try to save and we'll let it die then as we'd only have some problems to solve a couple of years later."

I disagree with the conclusion they're reached, but even if it is correct, have they not seen that a fans' rescue (for instance at clubs like Portsmouth and Brentford) has given a crisis club the stability and security it needs to make it attractive to a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years?

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by morganb » 28 Jun 2023 13:08

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All complaints brushed off with, "it's only football"

They'd be no complaints.

Live sex shows at half time.

Free chicken wings for every home goal scored.

What more do you want?


See "Sell before we Dai" have nicked your idea but slightly misheard you...

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by sputnik » 28 Jun 2023 13:10

Brogue I'd take IT director and would be in charge of club security

you'll be doing the pitch as well

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Whore Jackie » 28 Jun 2023 13:17

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I’ll put in a couple of hundred quid. Five hundred if I get to choose the music on the tannoy.

Anyone else in?

What would you do at a fan run club spinoff.

I'll take bar manager.

I'd have a specially brewed house beer, from either Loddon or Renegade (contract negotiations permitting) then a rotating guest ale from the Berkshire / South Oxfordshire / North Hampshire region, and a guest from the region of the visiting opposition (appreciate that'd be one and the same for the first few seasons)


Think Brighton do something similar at the Amex for their opposition fans. Though I have a horrible feeling Reading got London Pride on one of our visits. :|

Believe one of Reading's more vocal social media commentator and occasional nobber, has a decent job at one of our local brewers which could be handy.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by maffff » 28 Jun 2023 13:24

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On Strings Any fan ownership wouldn't last long. #SellBeforeWeDai have looked into this (STAR) and found that in most case's the Clubs have to find a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years. We really need to hope the next buyer is a decent one, but I've lost all faith in that after the corrupt Zingarevich's, asset stripping Thai's, and now the multi Club killing Dai's.


How depressingly small-minded and defeatist.

"If our club is in danger of going out of existence we won't bother to try to save and we'll let it die then as we'd only have some problems to solve a couple of years later."

I disagree with the conclusion they're reached, but even if it is correct, have they not seen that a fans' rescue (for instance at clubs like Portsmouth and Brentford) has given a crisis club the stability and security it needs to make it attractive to a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years?


If STAR have dismissed this I'm deeply concerned as this is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm on the board.

It's immensely difficult, but it's on the table as a lesser preferred route to our intended outcome (a safe and secure future for the club). We are engaging with Portsmouth etc and learning more from others that have done this. We are also taking advice from the FSA on this alongside many other possible permutations (and our options to mitigate risk).

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Lower West » 28 Jun 2023 14:18

Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright,


Goes into administration anything is possible. Few people want to invest in football start up's.


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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Weymouth Royal » 28 Jun 2023 14:35

Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright


He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Weymouth Royal » 28 Jun 2023 14:38

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On Strings Any fan ownership wouldn't last long. #SellBeforeWeDai have looked into this (STAR) and found that in most case's the Clubs have to find a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years. We really need to hope the next buyer is a decent one, but I've lost all faith in that after the corrupt Zingarevich's, asset stripping Thai's, and now the multi Club killing Dai's.


How depressingly small-minded and defeatist.

"If our club is in danger of going out of existence we won't bother to try to save and we'll let it die then as we'd only have some problems to solve a couple of years later."

I disagree with the conclusion they're reached, but even if it is correct, have they not seen that a fans' rescue (for instance at clubs like Portsmouth and Brentford) has given a crisis club the stability and security it needs to make it attractive to a wealthy long-term buyer after a couple of years?


If STAR have dismissed this I'm deeply concerned as this is the first I'm hearing of it and I'm on the board.

It's immensely difficult, but it's on the table as a lesser preferred route to our intended outcome (a safe and secure future for the club). We are engaging with Portsmouth etc and learning more from others that have done this. We are also taking advice from the FSA on this alongside many other possible permutations (and our options to mitigate risk).


It's never been dismissed, but it is recognised as a short-term solution and not long-term. It gets very expensive very quickly, and these fan ownerships really don't tend to last long before they need to seek new ownership again.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Forbury Lion » 28 Jun 2023 14:53

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NathStPaul I was thinking it would be more a couples thing. Lots of couples got to games together and this is an opportunity to make love on the centre circle at half time, it is quite appealing I think. They'd be a bed, duvet etc to keep it dignified.


or you could put loads of prostitutes in the directors boxes with red florescent lights above them, they could then be auctioned off to the biggest virgins on Reading football social media - here twitter etc

That's a good shout. So at half time we draw out the names and the winners are sent up to the box which is essentially made to look like a high end strip club. When there is a stoppage in play live footage of what is happening inside the box is shown on the big screen.

Will VAR be involved for things like determining whether someone went down in the box/had a rough tackle in from behind, that sort of thing?

Could make it a home fan/away fan challenge, Like the crossbar challenge thing to see who can score the most times in the half time break.

Kingsley and Queensley can do a PG furry version for the kids in the centre circle to help educate them and take their attention away from the boxes.

Maybe involve ex-players and other special guests when they make an appearance?

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by leon » 28 Jun 2023 23:04

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morganb Do we have any:

- Rich fans, probably only Brobot, Leon and 72 Bus
- Celebrity fans, Chris tarrant
- Rich, celebrity fans, Ian royal


Yeah only problem here is liquidity. And getting money out of SW London is going to be tricky.

I’m good for 500 quid. And another 300 when my bonus comes in.


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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Royal_jimmy » 28 Jun 2023 23:23

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Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright


He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.


Dai will want more than that, Madejski doesn't even have £100m worth. I think Ricky Gervais is wealthier than Madejski these days.

FYI it costs a lot more than just buying a club to an entrepreneur. There's funding it's losses which can be in the millions of pounds. Madejski is also 82, does he really want the stress of owning us again when he should be taking it easy. So yes maybe he can find a buyer and advise them on how to run us. Maybe he'll take a minority stake but have a hands off approach.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Forbury Lion » 29 Jun 2023 09:13

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Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright


He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.


Dai will want more than that, Madejski doesn't even have £100m worth. I think Ricky Gervais is wealthier than Madejski these days.

FYI it costs a lot more than just buying a club to an entrepreneur. There's funding it's losses which can be in the millions of pounds. Madejski is also 82, does he really want the stress of owning us again when he should be taking it easy. So yes maybe he can find a buyer and advise them on how to run us. Maybe he'll take a minority stake but have a hands off approach.

There's also the opportunity loss to factor in, If you have £100m invested in something which you believe will return you £200m over time and you invest it in the club instead, Then the theoretical cost of ownership is £200m and you won't get that back if you sell up.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Green » 29 Jun 2023 14:24

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morganb Do we have any:

- Rich fans, probably only Brobot, Leon and 72 Bus
- Celebrity fans, Chris tarrant
- Rich, celebrity fans, Ian royal


Yeah only problem here is liquidity. And getting money out of SW London is going to be tricky.

I’m good for 500 quid. And another 300 when my bonus comes in.

We could always take a loan out secured against your house.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by leon » 29 Jun 2023 14:55

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Yeah only problem here is liquidity. And getting money out of SW London is going to be tricky.

I’m good for 500 quid. And another 300 when my bonus comes in.

We could always take a loan out secured against your house.


Not for those lazy, useless cnuts.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by RG30 » 29 Jun 2023 15:13

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Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright


He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.


Hasn't got a pot to piss in anymore

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Lower West » 29 Jun 2023 15:21

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Royal_jimmy Madejski can't afford to buy the club outright


He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.


Hasn't got a pot to piss in anymore


Reading are heading in the direction of being a piss pot club again though. Few million would keep the club alive.

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Re: Fans’ takeover

by Brogue » 29 Jun 2023 15:23

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He can. What's it worth? £20m? £25m? Playing staff are our only assets. Stadium/Training Ground can be leased unless he wants to stump up the money for those as well. Debt gets refinanced with the banks.

But why would SJM want this burden at his age? I know SJM has had discussions about ownership, but I understand that to be more about helping find a suitable buyer rather than he himself buying the club back.


Hasn't got a pot to piss in anymore


Reading are heading in the direction of being a piss pot club again though. Few million would keep the club alive.


he's 82 it would probably kill him. he's moved on.

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