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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 03 Dec 2023 13:22

MB said not quite there yet on signing, still one or two points to iron out and agree on.

Also revealed he and Selles have agreed to postpone their wages until ALL staff have been paid in full.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Dec 2023 13:34

Thank God Bowen is here. Imagine where we'd be with the Kia recruitment model and lack of leadership.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Dec 2023 13:44

Sutekh MB said not quite there yet on signing, still one or two points to iron out and agree on.

Also revealed he and Selles have agreed to postpone their wages until ALL staff have been paid in full.

Ok, now that's class.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by 6ft Kerplunk » 03 Dec 2023 15:36

I'm taking the cynical approach that it's harder for him to get sacked if he's owed wages.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 03 Dec 2023 16:07

Hearing MB speaking before the game makes me think that exclusivity might not be happening anytime soon.

I can imagine that Dai is making negotiations very difficult and it sounds like goalposts/deadlines are being moved.


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by WestYorksRoyal » 03 Dec 2023 16:16

blythspartan Hearing MB speaking before the game makes me think that exclusivity might not be happening anytime soon.

I can imagine that Dai is making negotiations very difficult and it sounds like goalposts/deadlines are being moved.

Who knows what he's playing at. Had he sold us immediately after relegation, who knows how much more we'd have been worth than we are in our current situation. It feels like the longer he drags this out, the worse it will be for him.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by rightroyalkneesup2 » 03 Dec 2023 16:29

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blythspartan Hearing MB speaking before the game makes me think that exclusivity might not be happening anytime soon.

I can imagine that Dai is making negotiations very difficult and it sounds like goalposts/deadlines are being moved.

Who knows what he's playing at. Had he sold us immediately after relegation, who knows how much more we'd have been worth than we are in our current situation. It feels like the longer he drags this out, the worse it will be for him.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Linden Jones' Tash » 03 Dec 2023 16:46

WestYorksRoyal Thank God Bowen is here. Imagine where we'd be with the Kia recruitment model and lack of leadership.


I can't see how much worse it could be a than in the bottom 2 of League 1 and losing to an injury time goal from a non league side on ITV1 on a Sunday afternoon...

Don't get me wrong, I want better times, but given MB is pretty much in charge of all things football, I don't get how he gets absolved of all the bad stuff...

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by paultheroyal » 03 Dec 2023 17:17

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WestYorksRoyal Thank God Bowen is here. Imagine where we'd be with the Kia recruitment model and lack of leadership.


I can't see how much worse it could be a than in the bottom 2 of League 1 and losing to an injury time goal from a non league side on ITV1 on a Sunday afternoon...

Don't get me wrong, I want better times, but given MB is pretty much in charge of all things football, I don't get how he gets absolved of all the bad stuff...


What do you expect him to do with a bunch of free transfers, academy kids, free agents and to appoint someone / anyone who would not want to come here! He has now deferred all his wages to help others. He has come out today to back the fans and support the protests.

Thank god we have Mark Bowen I say!


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Linden Jones' Tash » 03 Dec 2023 18:16

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WestYorksRoyal Thank God Bowen is here. Imagine where we'd be with the Kia recruitment model and lack of leadership.


I can't see how much worse it could be a than in the bottom 2 of League 1 and losing to an injury time goal from a non league side on ITV1 on a Sunday afternoon...

Don't get me wrong, I want better times, but given MB is pretty much in charge of all things football, I don't get how he gets absolved of all the bad stuff...


What do you expect him to do with a bunch of free transfers, academy kids, free agents and to appoint someone / anyone who would not want to come here! He has now deferred all his wages to help others. He has come out today to back the fans and support the protests.

Thank god we have Mark Bowen I say!


I'm just saying that the OP said it would be worse w/o MB.

We are second bottom and just lost to a non league side - empirically, it's not like we are defying gravity.

I mean it's nice that he's not responsible for any of the footballing issues that we have, despite his job title and role.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by paultheroyal » 03 Dec 2023 19:36

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I can't see how much worse it could be a than in the bottom 2 of League 1 and losing to an injury time goal from a non league side on ITV1 on a Sunday afternoon...

Don't get me wrong, I want better times, but given MB is pretty much in charge of all things football, I don't get how he gets absolved of all the bad stuff...


What do you expect him to do with a bunch of free transfers, academy kids, free agents and to appoint someone / anyone who would not want to come here! He has now deferred all his wages to help others. He has come out today to back the fans and support the protests.

Thank god we have Mark Bowen I say!


I'm just saying that the OP said it would be worse w/o MB.

We are second bottom and just lost to a non league side - empirically, it's not like we are defying gravity.

I mean it's nice that he's not responsible for any of the footballing issues that we have, despite his job title and role.


With the cards he has been dealt with....

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 03 Dec 2023 19:53

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What do you expect him to do with a bunch of free transfers, academy kids, free agents and to appoint someone / anyone who would not want to come here! He has now deferred all his wages to help others. He has come out today to back the fans and support the protests.

Thank god we have Mark Bowen I say!


I'm just saying that the OP said it would be worse w/o MB.

We are second bottom and just lost to a non league side - empirically, it's not like we are defying gravity.

I mean it's nice that he's not responsible for any of the footballing issues that we have, despite his job title and role.


With the cards he has been dealt with....


You could also play that argument off against the managers we've had in the past few seasons as well, Pauno, Ince and now Selles and we all know none of them are great, but also haven't been helped. But they (most of the time justifiably so) have come in for a pounding off many fans.

I think MB is ok generally speaking and would do a lot better in a lot better circumstances. However, he's been Head of Football Operations for a couple of seasons now and in that time our "Football Operations" have been dreadful.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Snowflake Royal » 03 Dec 2023 20:23

No one is really saying Bowen is brilliant. But he's been involved in most of the few positives we've had, and looked to be doing a very credible job of a rebuild until Dai stopped paying players and taxes on time, scaring off anyone half competent.

The managers have generally been getting sub par performances out of squads that should be capable of better. The squad we've got has some duffers, but give a lot of these players a season of games, a decent manager and a solid pre-season and they can perform a lot better.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 04 Dec 2023 08:50

The simple matter of the situation is we have no idea just how bad it really is working at the club at the moment - however, bad we think it is, it's probably a magnitude worse.

For a senior employee like Bowen, to come out on National television and essentially call out the owner in such a detailed way is pretty much unheard of, as is the full hearted support for demos (as long as they are easily manageable i.e. please don't get a match abandoned) is also fairy new territory - it comes across as the words of a man who doesn't give a shit about his personal circumstances but wants the best for the club.

As he intimated, he has shown what his plan for the club is - and is one we should all support - invest in youth but until the club is stable, it is going to be close to impossible for the club to do much more than stay alive, losing games just doesn't matter any more.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Royalwaster » 04 Dec 2023 10:27

Stranded Nixon now reporting that Ashley only has interest in the stadium and being landlord not club owner.


This would be a horrific outcome ... we'd end up in a situation like Oxford or Coventry with someone else owning the stadium and making a profit from it, while the club languishes with a useless owner.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Stranded » 04 Dec 2023 15:26

Tweet from Jamie Hodder who seems to have some inside info from the club - apparently Dai has moved the goalposts on the deal that was agreed or close to being - tallies with Bowen's comments yesterday. Deal could collapse as a result.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 04 Dec 2023 15:29

It's all a game to him, isn't it?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Brogue » 04 Dec 2023 15:38

Meh think I’d prefer dai to this lot

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Mid Sussex Royal » 04 Dec 2023 15:40

Stranded Tweet from Jamie Hodder who seems to have some inside info from the club - apparently Dai has moved the goalposts on the deal that was agreed or close to being - tallies with Bowen's comments yesterday. Deal could collapse as a result.


He only knows when the staff are paid as he knows someone who works at the club, don't think he's necessarily ITK with the takeover stuff

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 04 Dec 2023 15:59

I have said it before and I honestly believe this is just a game to Dai now. MS was downbeat about the takeover yesterday and it might also account for the lacklustre performance from the team.

I think the protests etc. have hurt Dai’s pride/ego and he’ll let the club fold once he’s done with playing his little games.

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