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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Hendo » 29 Feb 2024 19:15

WestYorksRoyal Anybody else feel like everyone is being rescued except us? Since this started out, Southend, Scunthorpe, WBA and now Rochdale have seen their hellscape end. Yet our cnut refuses to fcuk off.


Difference I see is that Southend, Scunthorpe and Rochdale were absolutely on the brink. I know we are not in a good position but it sounded like there was the real possibility of them not finishing the season, which I don’t think is quite the case with us.

Additionally, WBA are a much better prospect than us as well, currently sat in the playoffs. People are going to look at them the same way Dai looked at us, a decent punt on getting into the Prem at the first time of asking.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ascotexgunner » 29 Feb 2024 19:47

WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ascotexgunner » 29 Feb 2024 19:47

WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ascotexgunner » 29 Feb 2024 19:47

WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Hendo » 29 Feb 2024 19:50

You can say that again and again!


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by tmesis » 29 Feb 2024 20:25

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WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.

The big outgoings for us are the academy and the rent. I don't know what it costs to run Bearwood, but you could probably add that too. We could quite feasibly be in a position where we wouldn't even be able to afford to pay the bills even if we had no senior players.

None of our players would go for big fees, as clubs know we are in a very weak bargaining position.

Being able to keep running isn't really the issue. It's whether our owner wants to keep us running.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Sutekh » 01 Mar 2024 09:02

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To my mind they could expel us as early as end of April. Owner doesn’t pay fines after 35 days = owner barred and given 28 days to sell the club. Owner doesn’t sell the club = club expelled from the EFL.
The EFL will want us gone long before fixtures are published because of the added complications of who would be playing in which league. Hope I’m wrong but it seems to now be a game of brinkmanship with end of April being the deadline.
I don’t really blame the EFL for this but they should cut out the nonsense that they are supposedly trying to support the club.

I don't see why we would have to be expelled before the fixture list is published. All it needs is for whichever division we are due to be play in would have only 23 teams. meaning the club we were due to play would have a day free of a fixture This has happened before, so I cannot see it causing any problems doing it this way.

I think the league would want to avoid a situation where we are in July/August without a squad of players, and no obvious ability to finance the season.

I also think they'd rather avoid having 23 teams in a division for a season, and the other clubs would rather have 23 games bringing in income rather than 22.

Kicking us out early would also give any club reprieved from relegation a chance to prepare properly.


Dear RFC, please be able to report something positive soon so all this random "worst case scenario" speculation can stop!

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by WestYorksRoyal » 01 Mar 2024 09:16

I think even if a deal doesn't happen, we would exist next season though not be competitive. Brutal cuts, players sold, academy downgrade etc., but we'd exist. Obviously this would make relegation near certain whatever the division, so makes staying up this season important. As alluded to earlier, it's basically how Bolton fell to L2 and they're doing OK now. At least we'd keep Dean and Button!

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ten Bobsworth » 01 Mar 2024 09:51

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WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.


'Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours', are they?

Do you have the figures? I don't but I should know how much Bolton overspent last season by the end of this month. I can tell you that it didn't survive in League 2 on its income and is unlikely to be surviving in League 1 on its income either. Bolton are still reliant on regular injections of capital and are still in significant debt.

They call it 'sustainable' but its only sustainable as long as you can continue to find folk willing to make up the shortfall. Reading are in the same boat except that they don't have anyone willing to make up the shortfall any longer and folks like that are not always easy to find.


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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by NathStPaul » 01 Mar 2024 09:58

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WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.


'Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours', are they?

Do you have the figures? I don't but I should know how much Bolton overspent last season by the end of this month. I can tell you that it didn't survive in League 2 on its income and is unlikely to be surviving in League 1 on its income either. Bolton are still reliant on regular injections of capital and are still in significant debt.

They call it 'sustainable' but its only sustainable as long as you can continue to find folk willing to make up the shortfall. Reading are in the same boat except that they don't have anyone willing to make up the shortfall any longer and folks like that are not always easy to find.

Boring

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by leon » 01 Mar 2024 10:05

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WestYorksRoyal Or we could do a Bolton and go into a season with no senior players. We'd get relegated for sure, but it would keep us alive and the transfer fees from like likes of Wing, Knibbs and Smith would help us survive. And Bolton are doing just fine now.


Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.


that's because its up north where everything is cheaper, shitter and just a bit dull.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 01 Mar 2024 10:18

I have almost resigned myself to the fact there’ll be no takeover, so if it happens it’ll be a nice surprise. I think I am more bothered about Brogue getting a hat trick of centuries in such a short space of time. :D

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ten Bobsworth » 01 Mar 2024 10:21

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Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours. I don't see how we can afford to exist with our infrastructure in League 2. I doubt those three transfers would be keeping us going for more than a few months.


'Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours', are they?

Do you have the figures? I don't but I should know how much Bolton overspent last season by the end of this month. I can tell you that it didn't survive in League 2 on its income and is unlikely to be surviving in League 1 on its income either. Bolton are still reliant on regular injections of capital and are still in significant debt.

They call it 'sustainable' but its only sustainable as long as you can continue to find folk willing to make up the shortfall. Reading are in the same boat except that they don't have anyone willing to make up the shortfall any longer and folks like that are not always easy to find.

Boring

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by blythspartan » 01 Mar 2024 10:31

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'Bolton's overheads are way lower than ours', are they?

Do you have the figures? I don't but I should know how much Bolton overspent last season by the end of this month. I can tell you that it didn't survive in League 2 on its income and is unlikely to be surviving in League 1 on its income either. Bolton are still reliant on regular injections of capital and are still in significant debt.

They call it 'sustainable' but its only sustainable as long as you can continue to find folk willing to make up the shortfall. Reading are in the same boat except that they don't have anyone willing to make up the shortfall any longer and folks like that are not always easy to find.

Boring

Stupid boy


Ten Bob, you have no right to be rude to posters on HNA. Only we’re allowed to do that.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ten Bobsworth » 01 Mar 2024 10:45

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Stupid boy


Ten Bob, you have no right to be rude to posters on HNA. Only we’re allowed to do that.

Only trying to help out. I think you need all the help you can get. There does seem to be an excessive number of Richard Heads on HNA.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by NathStPaul » 01 Mar 2024 10:55

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Ten Bob, you have no right to be rude to posters on HNA. Only we’re allowed to do that.

Only trying to help out. I think you need all the help you can get. There does seem to be an excessive number of Richard Heads on HNA.

Maybe you could fcuk off and reduce the numbers?

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ten Bobsworth » 01 Mar 2024 10:56

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Ten Bob, you have no right to be rude to posters on HNA. Only we’re allowed to do that.

Only trying to help out. I think you need all the help you can get. There does seem to be an excessive number of Richard Heads on HNA.

Maybe you could fcuk off and reduce the numbers?

Stupid boy

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Hendo » 01 Mar 2024 11:10

If you could stop quoting him, OMA, that would be great...

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by NathStPaul » 01 Mar 2024 18:30

Hendo If you could stop quoting him, OMA, that would be great...

Nope, I'm driving him off.

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Re: TAKEOVER *NOT* CONFIMRED

by Ten Bobsworth » 01 Mar 2024 21:29

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Hendo If you could stop quoting him, OMA, that would be great...

Nope, I'm driving him off.

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