Rival Watch

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Re: Rival Watch

by Orion1871 » 04 Jul 2024 17:19

Crossover with the ex players thread. Crawley continue they're weird summer by allowing Liam Kelly to join MK Dons.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Panas » 20 Jul 2024 12:14

Birmingham's (rumoured) spend is now at £10 million this summer. And that includes a low-ish fee for Alfie May who will almost certainly have needed a massive wage to join.

I suppose it'll probably work, but it has got more than a bit of 'financial oblivion in two years' about it.

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by Franchise FC » 20 Jul 2024 12:23

Panas Birmingham's (rumoured) spend is now at £10 million this summer. And that includes a low-ish fee for Alfie May who will almost certainly have needed a massive wage to join.

I suppose it'll probably work, but it has got more than a bit of 'financial oblivion in two years' about it.

It seems they’ve very nearly learned their lesson with regards to getting themselves into financial difficulties :roll:

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Re: Rival Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 20 Jul 2024 12:24

Panas Birmingham's (rumoured) spend is now at £10 million this summer. And that includes a low-ish fee for Alfie May who will almost certainly have needed a massive wage to join.

I suppose it'll probably work, but it has got more than a bit of 'financial oblivion in two years' about it.

Think we could do a proper trolling job on the opening day. For all the chaos behind the scenes, we have a team who know each other and a full pre season. Perfect time to face an expensive, newly assembled squad. Seem to remember a similar game at Leicester at the start of 11/12, though in hindsight their star CB signing was Matt Mills.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Clyde1998 » 20 Jul 2024 14:58

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Panas Birmingham's (rumoured) spend is now at £10 million this summer. And that includes a low-ish fee for Alfie May who will almost certainly have needed a massive wage to join.

I suppose it'll probably work, but it has got more than a bit of 'financial oblivion in two years' about it.

Think we could do a proper trolling job on the opening day. For all the chaos behind the scenes, we have a team who know each other and a full pre season. Perfect time to face an expensive, newly assembled squad. Seem to remember a similar game at Leicester at the start of 11/12, though in hindsight their star CB signing was Matt Mills.

Ourselves in 1998-99 would be another example - spent a load of money, for the time, and got thumped 3-0 at Wrexham.

As you say, playing them on the opening day of the season is probably the best time to play them before their players have gelled and got some momentum going.


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Re: Rival Watch

by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Jul 2024 17:30

Quick q - Birmingham are running around splashing the cash. I know the rules are different in L1, but are they in any danger of breaching FFP?

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by tidus_mi2 » 24 Jul 2024 17:46

Pepe the Horseman Quick q - Birmingham are running around splashing the cash. I know the rules are different in L1, but are they in any danger of breaching FFP?

The only restriction in L1 is wages to turnover, relegated clubs can spend 75% of their turnover on wages for the first year, everyone else is 60%, no restriction on transfer fees and turnover can include owner fund injection.

So in theory, if the owner wills it, they have nothing to worry about, the caveat here is their transfer spending has to be recorded in the 3 year accounting period if they get promoted back to the Championship, so long term it might catch up with them.

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Re: Rival Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Jul 2024 19:14

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Pepe the Horseman Quick q - Birmingham are running around splashing the cash. I know the rules are different in L1, but are they in any danger of breaching FFP?

The only restriction in L1 is wages to turnover, relegated clubs can spend 75% of their turnover on wages for the first year, everyone else is 60%, no restriction on transfer fees and turnover can include owner fund injection.

So in theory, if the owner wills it, they have nothing to worry about, the caveat here is their transfer spending has to be recorded in the 3 year accounting period if they get promoted back to the Championship, so long term it might catch up with them.

Their owners have said many times they're committed long term, but you worry how genuine it is if they're find it all much harder than expected. If they stay down a couple of years, they will start questioning the wisdom of their investment. And then they may have to make brutal cuts.

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Re: Rival Watch

by morganb » 28 Jul 2024 10:07

Probably doesn't mean much but -


That's some win against a very strong side!

Aldershot Town 3-1 Birmingham City

Thanks to Birmingham City for visiting the EBB Stadium, all the best for this season and safe travels for your journey home


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Re: Rival Watch

by Panas » 28 Jul 2024 13:13

morganb Probably doesn't mean much but -


That's some win against a very strong side!

Aldershot Town 3-1 Birmingham City

Thanks to Birmingham City for visiting the EBB Stadium, all the best for this season and safe travels for your journey home


Another Birmingham XI won 1-0 at Walsall at the same time as this, so sounds more like Aldershot bigging themselves up tbh.

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by Sutekh » 28 Jul 2024 13:37

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morganb Probably doesn't mean much but -


That's some win against a very strong side!

Aldershot Town 3-1 Birmingham City

Thanks to Birmingham City for visiting the EBB Stadium, all the best for this season and safe travels for your journey home


Another Birmingham XI won 1-0 at Walsall at the same time as this, so sounds more like Aldershot bigging themselves up tbh.


And presumably the stronger outfit would have been at Walsall given the proximity to Brum.

Edit: Alfie May and the manager were indeed both at Walsall.

Interestingly, last week Brum won a friendly 2-0 at Shrewsbury, odd that considering they play each other in the league also.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Sutekh » 28 Jul 2024 13:51

For the sake of interest to those that know their stuff about players, the current Birmingham 1st team squad comprises the following players...

Keepers

Ryan Alsopp
Bailey Peacock-Farrell

Defence

Emmanuel Longelo
Ethan Laird
Dion Sanderson
Lee Buchanan
Christopher Klarer
Alex Cochrane
Josh Williams

Midfield

Juninho Bacuna
Krystian Bielik
Koji Miyoshi
Alfie Chang
Paik Seung-Ho
Keshi Anderson
Siriki Dembele
Jordan James
George Hall
Willum Willumsson
Marc Leonard

Forwards

Alfie May
Lukas Jutkiewicz
Emil Hansson
Tyler Roberts

Buchanan will be doubtful for the opening fixture after being injured. Meanwhile there is rumoured PL interest in Paik Seung-Ho and Jordan James on the horizon. However Brum want to also spend £4.5m to bring striker Ugbo to the club from Troyes.

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Re: Rival Watch

by morganb » 21 Aug 2024 13:06

Blackpool sack Critchley after back-to-back losses - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 49rr92y0yo


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Re: Rival Watch

by MartinRdg » 22 Aug 2024 09:53

morganb Blackpool sack Critchley after back-to-back losses - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 49rr92y0yo


Always makes me amazed when this happens

"Despite his best efforts over the past 12 months, there have been a number of disappointing results and performances which means that a change is needed to give the club every possible chance of competing at the top end of the division this season," owner Simon Sadler said.

So why not sack him in the Summer and get someone else in for new signings and pre-season - just beggars belief.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Aug 2024 19:43

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morganb Blackpool sack Critchley after back-to-back losses - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 49rr92y0yo


Always makes me amazed when this happens

"Despite his best efforts over the past 12 months, there have been a number of disappointing results and performances which means that a change is needed to give the club every possible chance of competing at the top end of the division this season," owner Simon Sadler said.

So why not sack him in the Summer and get someone else in for new signings and pre-season - just beggars belief.

Didn’t Keane lose his first 4 games of the season at Sunderland and still win the league?

Recall a pretty ropey start under Brian that ended pretty well too.

Madness isn't it.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Orion1871 » 22 Aug 2024 20:02

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morganb Blackpool sack Critchley after back-to-back losses - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/arti ... 49rr92y0yo


Always makes me amazed when this happens

"Despite his best efforts over the past 12 months, there have been a number of disappointing results and performances which means that a change is needed to give the club every possible chance of competing at the top end of the division this season," owner Simon Sadler said.

So why not sack him in the Summer and get someone else in for new signings and pre-season - just beggars belief.

Didn’t Keane lose his first 4 games of the season at Sunderland and still win the league?

Recall a pretty ropey start under Brian that ended pretty well too.

Madness isn't it.


Niall Quinn lost the first 4, sacked himself as he was also chairman at the time, and bought in Keane to turn it around.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Orion1871 » 27 Aug 2024 09:44

Birmingham have £1m bid accepted for perennial scorer against Reading, Lyndon Dykes.

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Re: Rival Watch

by South Coast Royal » 27 Aug 2024 10:15

Orion1871 Birmingham have £1m bid accepted for perennial scorer against Reading, Lyndon Dykes.


A good buy for this level.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Sutekh » 27 Aug 2024 11:08

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Orion1871 Birmingham have £1m bid accepted for perennial scorer against Reading, Lyndon Dykes.


A good buy for this level.


I presume Dykes is in the last year of his contract for Rangers to accept that figure.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Panas » 27 Aug 2024 11:40

Orion1871 Birmingham have £1m bid accepted for perennial scorer against Reading, Lyndon Dykes.


About to turn 29, and hasn't scored more than 8 league goals in a season since 2020/21. And he is, by all accounts, being forced out by QPR as they want the money, so probably isn't thrilled about the move down a division :?

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