CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

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by Hound » 10 Oct 2024 09:58

Poor Millsy.

Have this image in my head of Millsy being a modern day Colin Hunt

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by From Despair To Where? » 10 Oct 2024 10:39

You can't just nick a routine honed and crafted over 10 years of refinement though, can you?

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by stealthpapes » 10 Oct 2024 11:03

Sutekh


got the gif of his 'party piece' lying around here somewhere

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by Brogue » 10 Oct 2024 11:23

From Despair To Where? You can't just nick a routine honed and crafted over 10 years of refinement though, can you?


Hiram K Hackenbacker I agree.


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by From Despair To Where? » 10 Oct 2024 11:32

Brogue
From Despair To Where? You can't just nick a routine honed and crafted over 10 years of refinement though, can you?


Hiram K Hackenbacker I agree.



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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by leon » 10 Oct 2024 12:18

Hound Poor Millsy.

Have this image in my head of Millsy being a modern day Colin Hunt


Great minds

leon in Nov 2021
Millsy
leon
Millsy really is



You got me. Where do you want your £5 sent?


Keep it on your trolley

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by Hound » 10 Oct 2024 12:27

leon
Hound Poor Millsy.

Have this image in my head of Millsy being a modern day Colin Hunt


Great minds

leon in Nov 2021
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You got me. Where do you want your £5 sent?


Keep it on your trolley


Fair play and well remembered…

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by leon » 10 Oct 2024 12:53

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Hound Poor Millsy.

Have this image in my head of Millsy being a modern day Colin Hunt


Great minds

leon in Nov 2021
Keep it on your trolley


Fair play and well remembered…


tbf I'm reminded every time Millsy posts :D


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by Armadillo Roadkill » 10 Oct 2024 13:36

Hold on, this is turning from good humoured ribbing towards bullying.

Someone like that tedious racist kar**** clearly deserves everything they get, but has Millsy really done anything that wrong? (Genuine question - I don't tend to remember what any particular user is like over time).

And people sometimes wonder why there are so few adults left on here...

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Sanguine » 10 Oct 2024 14:14

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -bank-sale

The Reading owner Dai Yongge’s repeated attempts to sell the club are being jeopardised by his failure to repay previously undisclosed debts of more than £55m to a state-backed Chinese bank, according to documents seen by the Guardian.

A loan from Haitong International Securities caused the collapse of a £30m takeover by Rob Couhig last month, with documents showing the investment bank has the right to take ownership of Reading’s stadium if it is sold without the debt being repaid.

Reading announced on Monday they had entered “exclusive negotiations” with another buyer but the stadium issue remains unresolved and ownership will pass to Haitong if the loan remains outstanding after the club is sold, according to the documents. The EFL has not been told the identity of the new Reading bidder, with sources sceptical a sale will take place.


With Yongge engaged in sale talks Haitong applied for a stop notice regarding the stadium, which was granted by the BVIs’ court office last February. In July Haitong’s lawyers received notice that Yongge was planning to transfer ownership of the stadium to Coehig’s company, Redwood Stadium Limited.

This was stopped by a ruling in August from the high court of justice in the BVIs, which ruled that Prestige Fortune Asia be prohibited from transferring, selling or taking interest payments or dividends related to the stadium until the conclusion of the Hong Kong court proceedings.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by South Coast Royal » 10 Oct 2024 14:30

Says it all really doesn't it?

Dai doesn't want to spend £55 million just to get £30 million.
We remain in limbo.

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by Greatwesternline » 10 Oct 2024 14:53

These really are the sorts of things that will jeopardise the club's future. Dai not being able to sell the club even if he wanted to.

If the lender in BVI has a charge over the stadium, they will want all of the proceeds of the stadium. And if the loan is of a greater value than the stadium, then Dai hasn't got much incentive to sell the stadium, as he won't get any of the receipts.

And any new owner wont want the club without the stadium. This sounds like goodbye and good night.

Tricky.


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by Hound » 10 Oct 2024 14:57

Who was saying (on here or X) that we were basically owned by the Chinese govt?

Sounds like they were right. What an excellent position to be in

I don’t really see any way round this other than Haitong calling in the loan, taking the stadium instead and then selling it at a discounted rate

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Elm Park Kid » 10 Oct 2024 15:02

Though - this is a story in a British newspaper and all the normal warnings about not taking it at face value should apply . . . .

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by Armadillo Roadkill » 10 Oct 2024 15:03

It's also kind of great that the club's future seems to be decided in the courts of the British Virgin Islands. Gives you a nice, warm feeling doesn't it?

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Linden Jones' Tash » 10 Oct 2024 15:03

I'm just glad the local press were able to get to the heart of the issue and didn't run contradictory noises about why the last bid collapsed....

oh wait....

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Sutekh » 10 Oct 2024 15:05

I get the impression this Mr Dai hasn't been the best of owners.

Honestly believe there should be some legal legislation drawn up, specific to sporting clubs, that prevents the sale of club assets, such as grounds, training facilities etc. to "other entities" other than as part of a complete change in ownership.

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Hound » 10 Oct 2024 15:06

Elm Park Kid Though - this is a story in a British newspaper and all the normal warnings about not taking it at face value should apply . . . .


Yes of course though seems a bit of a strange one to make up or suggest without it being true

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Re: CONFRIMED: Latest rumours Confrimed as Unconfrimed

by Armadillo Roadkill » 10 Oct 2024 15:07

The club's not worth much without the stadium.

The stadium's not worth much without a viable tenant, and RFC is the only realistic one.

If I've understood all of the machinations, this appears to be the only ground for hope.

It also kicks the "reliable source" that put the blame on Couhig's last minute bargaining into touch.

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