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by Sutekh » 13 Nov 2024 10:27

morganb https://www.cityam.com/ahead-of-the-game-reading-fc-hero-emerges-as-potential-saviour/

Former Reading chairman Roger Smee is considering making a last-ditch attempt to rescue the club from the ownership of Dai Yongge.

The 76-year-old property tycoon, who also played for Reading in the 1960s and 1970s, is already a hero among older fans for helping to block Robert Maxwell’s proposal to merge the club with Oxford United when he was on the board in the 1980s.

Smee went on to become Reading chairman after ousting Maxwell, before selling up to John Madejski in 1990 with the club in financial difficulties.

With Reading’s cash-flow problems approaching crisis point, City AM has learned that Smee has held initial talks about funding a rescue package.

Reading have been on the market for over a year but Yongge has been unable to sell, partly due to a number of outstanding loans the Chinese businessman has taken out which are secured against the club’s stadium.

A £25m sale to former Wycomber owner Rob Couhig was agreed last summer but collapsed in September and the club now face a struggle to meet their operating costs for the rest of the season.

A £5m loan from Couhig was repaid by Yongge in September, leaving Reading short of funds to pay the wages of players and staff.

The club announced that they had entered exclusive negotiations with another buyer in October but their identity remains unknown.


Be wonderful if it could happen but how would he be funded (and when would he reappoint Ian Branfoot)?

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by WestYorksRoyal » 13 Nov 2024 10:28

Maybe Smee and SJM joint ticket just to get it out of his hands, make it more financially stable and sell on again.

Probably bollocks. I don't really want to hear rumours of new parties. I want to see the preferred bidder get a deal done.

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by Crusader Royal » 13 Nov 2024 10:35

WestYorksRoyal Maybe Smee and SJM joint ticket just to get it out of his hands, make it more financially stable and sell on again.

Probably bollocks. I don't really want to hear rumours of new parties. I want to see the preferred bidder get a deal done.


I doubt either Smee or SJM have the funds to do much in practical terms but possibly as the front for a group of local people they might be able to repeat their previous heroic acts. I don’t think Smee has had any connections to the club for a very long time but last I was aware he was living in Wargrave.

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by El Diablo » 13 Nov 2024 10:49

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WestYorksRoyal Maybe Smee and SJM joint ticket just to get it out of his hands, make it more financially stable and sell on again.

Probably bollocks. I don't really want to hear rumours of new parties. I want to see the preferred bidder get a deal done.


I doubt either Smee or SJM have the funds to do much in practical terms but possibly as the front for a group of local people they might be able to repeat their previous heroic acts. I don’t think Smee has had any connections to the club for a very long time but last I was aware he was living in Wargrave.



I reckon Smee is financially on par , if not better, than the last band of Americans who tried to buy the club, and with his Business interests no doubt has access to financing / funding..

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by Crusader Royal » 13 Nov 2024 11:00

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WestYorksRoyal Maybe Smee and SJM joint ticket just to get it out of his hands, make it more financially stable and sell on again.

Probably bollocks. I don't really want to hear rumours of new parties. I want to see the preferred bidder get a deal done.


I doubt either Smee or SJM have the funds to do much in practical terms but possibly as the front for a group of local people they might be able to repeat their previous heroic acts. I don’t think Smee has had any connections to the club for a very long time but last I was aware he was living in Wargrave.



I reckon Smee is financially on par , if not better, than the last band of Americans who tried to buy the club, and with his Business interests no doubt has access to financing / funding..


Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


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by The Cap » 13 Nov 2024 11:12

Not really been keeping up with latest takeover news as, like everybody else on here, we'll believe it once officially announced. However, when I saw Roger Smee's name mentioned this morning, I thought about his previous heroics to see off Maxwell and suddenly felt a warm glow. Could he just be the person to finally help in sorting out this mess? Was certainly a decent player for us back in the day and seems to retain a strong allegiance to the club.

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by Snowflake Royal » 13 Nov 2024 12:02

WestYorksRoyal Maybe Smee and SJM joint ticket just to get it out of his hands, make it more financially stable and sell on again.

Probably bollocks. I don't really want to hear rumours of new parties. I want to see the preferred bidder get a deal done.

You sweet child, thinking there actually is a preferred bidder...

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by El Diablo » 13 Nov 2024 12:17

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I doubt either Smee or SJM have the funds to do much in practical terms but possibly as the front for a group of local people they might be able to repeat their previous heroic acts. I don’t think Smee has had any connections to the club for a very long time but last I was aware he was living in Wargrave.



I reckon Smee is financially on par , if not better, than the last band of Americans who tried to buy the club, and with his Business interests no doubt has access to financing / funding..


Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.

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by Royalwaster » 13 Nov 2024 12:24

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I reckon Smee is financially on par , if not better, than the last band of Americans who tried to buy the club, and with his Business interests no doubt has access to financing / funding..


Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.

Yeah buy RFC and bankrupt his family owned company!


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by Crusader Royal » 13 Nov 2024 12:28

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I reckon Smee is financially on par , if not better, than the last band of Americans who tried to buy the club, and with his Business interests no doubt has access to financing / funding..


Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.


That’s not cash. That’s the land owned by a company who invests in land.
He destroyed one company by getting involved with us, really can’t see him pumping cash raised by selling assets and risking his own money again.
Even £33 million disappears quite quickly if £30 million is he needed to buy the club….

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by El Diablo » 13 Nov 2024 12:30

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Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.


That’s not cash. That’s the land owned by a company who invests in land.
He destroyed one company by getting involved with us, really can’t see him pumping cash raised by selling assets and risking his own money again.
Even £33 million disappears quite quickly if £30 million is he needed to buy the club….


Absolutely. The point being he has leverage to Finance / back funding.

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by Sutekh » 13 Nov 2024 13:25

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Smee has a rather chequered financial history. I’d be surprised if he had funds to hand running into millions. As I said, he might be a figurehead to bring in other local wealthy people as he’s always been a wheeler dealer.


Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.


That’s not cash. That’s the land owned by a company who invests in land.
He destroyed one company by getting involved with us, really can’t see him pumping cash raised by selling assets and risking his own money again.
Even £33 million disappears quite quickly if £30 million is he needed to buy the club….


I always thought it was the property market downturn in the late 80s that brought Smee down, he and his business were managing OK before then with its involvement with the club. Would agree that I don’t think he has the money to buy and/or run the club again without investment funding from elsewhere but we shall see.


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by LUX » 13 Nov 2024 13:46

lol at Pep's pic.

Let's hope it's true, it would be a romantic, local story.

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by LUX » 13 Nov 2024 13:47

btw, if it's a local, general effort, I'll put a grand in, for an infinitesimal share of the club/my name on a brick sort of deal.

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by rightroyalkneesup2 » 13 Nov 2024 14:20

traff Is his source CEEFAX?

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by RoyalBlue » 13 Nov 2024 16:40

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Sounds perfect!! Smee's Rock Co Capital Limited has a net worth of c. £ 33m, and is family owned. I reckon he has the required to make it happen , if that's what he wants to do.


That’s not cash. That’s the land owned by a company who invests in land.
He destroyed one company by getting involved with us, really can’t see him pumping cash raised by selling assets and risking his own money again.
Even £33 million disappears quite quickly if £30 million is he needed to buy the club….


I always thought it was the property market downturn in the late 80s that brought Smee down, he and his business were managing OK before then with its involvement with the club. Would agree that I don’t think he has the money to buy and/or run the club again without investment funding from elsewhere but we shall see.


It was a combination of the two I believe. IIRC he had also said he'd spent too much time focussed on the club at the expense of his other businesses.

A thoroughly decent guy IMO.

I can remember when things started to go really downhill under Ian Branfoot. After one game, a large crowd/'mob' of protestors assembled on Norfolk Rd demanding that Branfoot went. Roger Smee came out and stood in the middle of us to discuss the situation. I can remember his words regarding Branfoot to this day: 'He got us into this mess, so he can damn well get us out of it.'!!

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by mikey_1871 » 13 Nov 2024 16:53

Earnshaw reporting that this is only an option if the club falls into admin, which is 'looking unlikely currently'. Presumably why the Matt Hughes article frames this as 'potential saviour'.

Also club still in talks with unnamed party - club must still be funded by them then

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by tidus_mi2 » 13 Nov 2024 17:01

mikey_1871 Earnshaw reporting that this is only an option if the club falls into admin, which is 'looking unlikely currently'. Presumably why the Matt Hughes article frames this as 'potential saviour'.

Also club still in talks with unnamed party - club must still be funded by them then

With all due respect for Roger Smee, there's surely more prosperous potential owners out there should administration happen.

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by windermereROYAL » 13 Nov 2024 17:02

Realism kicking in, it`s all so tiresome now, sell, administration or getting wound up, just get it fuking done because in all honesty no matter how hard it might be to have no club at least we`ll have an answer one way or another.

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