CONFIMRED - The final countdown

[Uke]

Who is this bloke, what's his business and wealth?

I ain't clicking no Sun link.

Another property “tycoon”…

Presumably looking at the land value more than the club

[Brogue]

Seems Huang’s tweet checks out

[tmesis]

His wife is a Reading fan. Great to see.

No dinner for him if he has bad intentions, we might need to look for a new training ground though. but I`d trade that in a heartbeat to what we have now.

Isn't there a covenant on the training ground land around usage?

Indeed. If he's in it for the property development opportunities, then it suggests he hasn't looked into things too closely.

[bcubed]

No dinner for him if he has bad intentions, we might need to look for a new training ground though. but I`d trade that in a heartbeat to what we have now.

Isn't there a covenant on the training ground land around usage?

Indeed. If he's in it for the property development opportunities, then it suggests he hasn't looked into things too closely.

I don't know the details of the covenant, but covenants can be lifted and planning restrictions count for nothing these days. There's so much pressure to build houses nothing is sacred.

[WestYorksRoyal]

Numb to it all, but obviously there are short term implications. If nothing is close, we have to sell this window to keep afloat. If it's closer and they're putting in funds, we only need to sell if it's a good deal.

I don't mind a real estate background. Our real estate assets and what they allow us to do in attracting players, staff and running the academy are the reason why we've only fallen to L1 and we're not like Swindon. Any buyer will know about covenants, permissions etc., which give us quite a lot of protection. And if they're looking at Royal Elm Park, that would be great for the club and wider area.

[Snowflake Royal]

Isn't there a covenant on the training ground land around usage?

Indeed. If he's in it for the property development opportunities, then it suggests he hasn't looked into things too closely.

I don't know the details of the covenant, but covenants can be lifted and planning restrictions count for nothing these days. There's so much pressure to build houses nothing is sacred.

Given the total failure to build anywhere near enough houses and the power of NIMBY not really true.

But covenants and restrictions can certainly be dealt with.

[bcubed]

Indeed. If he's in it for the property development opportunities, then it suggests he hasn't looked into things too closely.

I don't know the details of the covenant, but covenants can be lifted and planning restrictions count for nothing these days. There's so much pressure to build houses nothing is sacred.

Given the total failure to build anywhere near enough houses and the power of NIMBY not really true.

But covenants and restrictions can certainly be dealt with.

The reason we don't have enough houses is nothing to do with the planning process (as the government and previous givernments would have us believe) and a lot to do with developers holding on to land banks and building houses only when it suits them.

Point is when a developer wants a site and puts enough resources into it and follows through into the appeal process (which councils these days are reluctant to challenge properly) they usually get what they want.

[Snowflake Royal]

I don't know the details of the covenant, but covenants can be lifted and planning restrictions count for nothing these days. There's so much pressure to build houses nothing is sacred.

Given the total failure to build anywhere near enough houses and the power of NIMBY not really true.

But covenants and restrictions can certainly be dealt with.

The reason we don't have enough houses is nothing to do with the planning process (as the government and previous givernments would have us believe) and a lot to do with developers holding on to land banks and building houses only when it suits them.

Point is when a developer wants a site and puts enough resources into it and follows through into the appeal process (which councils these days are reluctant to challenge properly) they usually get what they want.

Eventually, but it takes lots of time and money.

And you've only got to look at how difficult it is to get prisons, hostels and HS2 built to see planning is an issue.

[North of the River]

Assuming this is the same Paul Taylor who is running things at Blue Horizons, who had been mentioned previously?

https://blue-horizon.com/ourteam/

[bcubed]

Given the total failure to build anywhere near enough houses and the power of NIMBY not really true.

But covenants and restrictions can certainly be dealt with.

The reason we don't have enough houses is nothing to do with the planning process (as the government and previous givernments would have us believe) and a lot to do with developers holding on to land banks and building houses only when it suits them.

Point is when a developer wants a site and puts enough resources into it and follows through into the appeal process (which councils these days are reluctant to challenge properly) they usually get what they want.

Eventually, but it takes lots of time and money.

And you've only got to look at how difficult it is to get prisons, hostels and HS2 built to see planning is an issue.

Planning for massive strategic projects is a different issue. Housing supply is managed by developers and in my experience, land owners and developers are prepared to wait it out if there is a prospect of a big pay day. And more than happy to pay whatever is needed to get the approval across the line.

My only point being that I wouldn't be surprised if development potential at Bearwood is a serious consideration

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Numb to it all, but obviously there are short term implications. If nothing is close, we have to sell this window to keep afloat. If it's closer and they're putting in funds, we only need to sell if it's a good deal.

Heard we turned down a big offer for Knibbs in the last few days, which if true suggests that *something is going on behind the scenes.

[West Stand Man]

Assuming this is the same Paul Taylor who is running things at Blue Horizons, who had been mentioned previously?

https://blue-horizon.com/ourteam/

Same person, new backers, according to the ToiletPaper (The Sun).

[Snowflake Royal]

So how many failed parties is that now?

The soft drinker nutter who was never really interested
The Autumn 23 lot
The Spring 23 lot
Couhig
Blue Horizon 1
Blue Horizon 2
The German
Roger Smee.

[Sutekh]

So how many failed parties is that now?

The soft drinker nutter who was never really interested
The Autumn 23 lot
The Spring 23 lot
Couhig
Blue Horizon 1
Blue Horizon 2
The German
Roger Smee.

Wasn’t there a Benny Kwong in there somewhere too?

[Crusader Royal]

The reason we don't have enough houses is nothing to do with the planning process (as the government and previous givernments would have us believe) and a lot to do with developers holding on to land banks and building houses only when it suits them.

Point is when a developer wants a site and puts enough resources into it and follows through into the appeal process (which councils these days are reluctant to challenge properly) they usually get what they want.

Eventually, but it takes lots of time and money.

And you've only got to look at how difficult it is to get prisons, hostels and HS2 built to see planning is an issue.

Planning for massive strategic projects is a different issue. Housing supply is managed by developers and in my experience, land owners and developers are prepared to wait it out if there is a prospect of a big pay day. And more than happy to pay whatever is needed to get the approval across the line.

My only point being that I wouldn't be surprised if development potential at Bearwood is a serious consideration

We’ve already built houses on part of the Bearwood site….

[rabidbee]

The reason we don't have enough houses is nothing to do with the planning process (as the government and previous givernments would have us believe) and a lot to do with developers holding on to land banks and building houses only when it suits them.

Point is when a developer wants a site and puts enough resources into it and follows through into the appeal process (which councils these days are reluctant to challenge properly) they usually get what they want.

Eventually, but it takes lots of time and money.

And you've only got to look at how difficult it is to get prisons, hostels and HS2 built to see planning is an issue.

Planning for massive strategic projects is a different issue. Housing supply is managed by developers and in my experience, land owners and developers are prepared to wait it out if there is a prospect of a big pay day. And more than happy to pay whatever is needed to get the approval across the line.

My only point being that I wouldn't be surprised if development potential at Bearwood is a serious consideration

It sits within a Grade II* scheduled monument, so good luck with that.

[bcubed]

Eventually, but it takes lots of time and money.

And you've only got to look at how difficult it is to get prisons, hostels and HS2 built to see planning is an issue.

Planning for massive strategic projects is a different issue. Housing supply is managed by developers and in my experience, land owners and developers are prepared to wait it out if there is a prospect of a big pay day. And more than happy to pay whatever is needed to get the approval across the line.

My only point being that I wouldn't be surprised if development potential at Bearwood is a serious consideration

It sits within a Grade II* scheduled monument, so good luck with that.

As I said earlier I don't know the site details but even if there is a listed building, which is what I guess you mean, development could still get approval.

[Crowbar6753]

His wife is a Reading fan. Great to see.

Happy Wife, Happy Life.......lets buy her the football team she supports!!!!! heard it all now.

[rabidbee]

Planning for massive strategic projects is a different issue. Housing supply is managed by developers and in my experience, land owners and developers are prepared to wait it out if there is a prospect of a big pay day. And more than happy to pay whatever is needed to get the approval across the line.

My only point being that I wouldn't be surprised if development potential at Bearwood is a serious consideration

It sits within a Grade II* scheduled monument, so good luck with that.

As I said earlier I don't know the site details but even if there is a listed building, which is what I guess you mean, development could still get approval.

No, the park and grounds are a scheduled monument. Would need approval from Historic England.

You can see the boundaries of the scheduling here: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/ ... ry/1000414. Basically, bounded by the four roads running around the site.

[Carnabyswhiskers]

If Bearwood is to be redeveloped, can it be redeveloped back into the 9 hole public golf course it used to be. Turning out class footballers for us is the only acceptable alternative use.