CONFIMRED - The final countdown

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by tmesis » 27 Mar 2025 18:23

In the grand scheme of things, I can't imagine we owe that much to an agent.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by windermereROYAL » 27 Mar 2025 19:03

Actually laughed when I saw this winding up petition, fuck all surprises me anymore, why should this be any different?

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Snowflake Royal » 27 Mar 2025 19:40

Winding up petition doesn't change anything, and it's not like it's our first, or possibly even second under Dai's god awful tenure.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by From Despair To Where? » 27 Mar 2025 21:19

If it was someone like HMRC, I'd be more concerned.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Lower West » 27 Mar 2025 21:35

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morganb Winding up petition issued against Reading FC by management agency, Skelland Brown.

https://x.com/BebbingtonScott/status/19 ... mMF6w&s=19

https://x.com/thesimpsonRFC/status/1905 ... ZvJrQ&s=19


A new winding up petition has been launched against #readingfc Skelland Brown Ltd is a player agency firm.

Clients include Harvey Knibbs, Tom Holmes, Garath McCleary and Alex McCarthy


Assume this is bad news


You can search up on Court records this type of thing, and over the tenure of Dai's owner ship IIRC , we've had three other Agents / Companies serve us winding up petitions .

Its no big deal really, as the club will no doubt pay up - unless there's a dispute. A lot of companies these days don't oxf*rd around if their Customer is in default and swiftly take this path.

I wouldn't be surprised that if there's a sale of the club pending - direction from above would be to hold )all non essential) payments going out.


These fees were most likely being settled by a deferred payment arrangement to aid cashflow. The arrangement has been defaulted on. With cash in hand now becoming increasingly critical. No one goes to the time and expense of issuing a winding order unless they see no viable alternative. Makes one concerned as to what other overdue external creditors exist.

Dai ( or whoever is pulling the puppet strings in China) is possibly gambling on reaching the playoffs and even promotion. As the value of the club increases overnight by many millions it were to happen.


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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Reading4eva » 27 Mar 2025 23:16

Just alerting everyone. There will be something I will be dropping in the next 45 minutes. You might want this link - https://youtu.be/PuW8acbuNu0

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Reading4eva » 27 Mar 2025 23:55

The video is now available

https://youtu.be/PuW8acbuNu0

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Royal Ginger » 28 Mar 2025 00:08

You’ll never believe what’s in the link

Doctor’s don’t want you to know the secrets in the link.

Over 60s should click this link now

Doing this one trick a day will lose a stone in a week, click link

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by From Despair To Where? » 28 Mar 2025 05:34

Reading4eva Just alerting everyone. There will be something I will be dropping in the next 45 minutes. You might want this link - https://youtu.be/PuW8acbuNu0


Your guts?


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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Sutekh » 28 Mar 2025 07:22

Reading4eva Just alerting everyone. There will be something I will be dropping in the next 45 minutes. You might want this link - https://youtu.be/PuW8acbuNu0


Thanks for giving RC a chance to put a bit of PR out there for himself!

Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.

Nice to hear RC give his time to speak and in so doing show more communication to the fans than we’ve had from the present mute in all his 8 years.

Interview does not push RC on why his deal failed e.g. any truth in the stories that circulated here about RC chipping away at the purchase price and finally only offering £8m.

RC does still hold the liens on the assets and this apparently means Dai cannot choose to just liquidate the club or put it into administration.

RC says he was waiting to complete but his loans were suddenly sent back with no explanation and Dai’s lawyers then sent him release forms to sign but then just quit so he couldn’t sign them anyway, even if he had been willing to do so.

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by Reading4eva » 28 Mar 2025 08:01

Sutekh Thanks for giving RC a chance to put a bit of PR out there for himself!

Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.

Nice to hear RC give his time to speak and in so doing show more communication to the fans than we’ve had from the present mute in all his 8 years.


Thanks mate. This has taken quite some prep since I managed to secure it but I hope we covered everything and got more new information.

The liens information is very interesting. Whilst it avoids a doomsday scenario is this why the club have avoided administration but have been on a drip feed of funds for almost 2 years?

Bearwood again interesting and the fact the club were trying to flog the asset rather than Couhig jumping on a bad situation.

From speaking with Rob, honest opinion and I don't want to influence anyone else, was he is a very open, hospitable person. He also, despite being offered numerous opportunities during the interview had the chance to throw people under the bus but avoided doing so. Make of that what you will.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Reading4eva » 28 Mar 2025 08:01

Sutekh Thanks for giving RC a chance to put a bit of PR out there for himself!

Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.

Nice to hear RC give his time to speak and in so doing show more communication to the fans than we’ve had from the present mute in all his 8 years.


Thanks mate. This has taken quite some prep since I managed to secure it but I hope we covered everything and got more new information.

The liens information is very interesting. Whilst it avoids a doomsday scenario is this why the club have avoided administration but have been on a drip feed of funds for almost 2 years?

Bearwood again interesting and the fact the club were trying to flog the asset rather than Couhig jumping on a bad situation.

From speaking with Rob, honest opinion and I don't want to influence anyone else, was he is a very open, hospitable person. He also, despite being offered numerous opportunities during the interview had the chance to throw people under the bus but avoided doing so. Make of that what you will.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Sutekh » 28 Mar 2025 08:09

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Sutekh Thanks for giving RC a chance to put a bit of PR out there for himself!

Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.

Nice to hear RC give his time to speak and in so doing show more communication to the fans than we’ve had from the present mute in all his 8 years.


Thanks mate. This has taken quite some prep since I managed to secure it but I hope we covered everything and got more new information.

The liens information is very interesting. Whilst it avoids a doomsday scenario is this why the club have avoided administration but have been on a drip feed of funds for almost 2 years?

Bearwood again interesting and the fact the club were trying to flog the asset rather than Couhig jumping on a bad situation.

From speaking with Rob, honest opinion and I don't want to influence anyone else, was he is a very open, hospitable person. He also, despite being offered numerous opportunities during the interview had the chance to throw people under the bus but avoided doing so. Make of that what you will.


Appreciate your time, must have taken a while to set up! Glad someone’s managed to do something the BBC should have been looking to do rather than just parroting the club. Hope you’re not losing your Bournemouth followers as a result!

Rob speaks as you’d expect in being very positive and sensible about how to run a club and you can see through the state of Wycombe that he does deliver. Only thing I felt was missing was on the collapse of his deal, as I edited into my earlier message.


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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by Linden Jones' Tash » 28 Mar 2025 08:15

Sorry, I don't have time to listen to it all.

Doesn't sound like he said anything about accepting the "formal proposal for alternative security " cited in the RFC statement?

Which would have reassured everyone right...

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by Reading4eva » 28 Mar 2025 08:19

Linden Jones' Tash Sorry, I don't have time to listen to it all.

Doesn't sound like he said anything about accepting the "formal proposal for alternative security " cited in the RFC statement?

Which would have reassured everyone right...


He hasn't seen the proposal as yet but he will look at it over the weekend if not today. Could be a crucial 48 hours.

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by Reading4eva » 28 Mar 2025 08:30

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Sutekh Thanks for giving RC a chance to put a bit of PR out there for himself!

Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.

Nice to hear RC give his time to speak and in so doing show more communication to the fans than we’ve had from the present mute in all his 8 years.


Thanks mate. This has taken quite some prep since I managed to secure it but I hope we covered everything and got more new information.

The liens information is very interesting. Whilst it avoids a doomsday scenario is this why the club have avoided administration but have been on a drip feed of funds for almost 2 years?

Bearwood again interesting and the fact the club were trying to flog the asset rather than Couhig jumping on a bad situation.

From speaking with Rob, honest opinion and I don't want to influence anyone else, was he is a very open, hospitable person. He also, despite being offered numerous opportunities during the interview had the chance to throw people under the bus but avoided doing so. Make of that what you will.


Appreciate your time, must have taken a while to set up! Glad someone’s managed to do something the BBC should have been looking to do rather than just parroting the club. Hope you’re not losing your Bournemouth followers as a result!

Rob speaks as you’d expect in being very positive and sensible about how to run a club and you can see through the state of Wycombe that he does deliver. Only thing I felt was missing was on the collapse of his deal, as I edited into my earlier message.


Don't worry about the Bournemouth followers. The ones who know me will know how much both clubs mean to me and actually support it. The ones who are bothered by it being on there aren't worth worrying about and have short memories of what the Cherries were like in 2008 when I moved down here.

From what I got from Rob was he isn't sure why his deal collapsed himself. One day it was all done, money transferred ready to go. The club suggested the Purple Turtle pics which he obliged to doing and after trip number 5 they sent his money back. He paid the full amount and did not try and undercut Dai which is a popular myth.

From what was hinted at the time, from Rob's reluctance to name or shame anyone and from what we now know - I assume but have zero proof of this that Rob had exclusivity and it was Pang and/or Howe who were trying to get more money out of him therefore breaking the agreement or was looking to find an alternative buyer for more money before the money was sent back whilst Rob had exclusivity.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by El Diablo » 28 Mar 2025 08:43

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Thanks mate. This has taken quite some prep since I managed to secure it but I hope we covered everything and got more new information.

The liens information is very interesting. Whilst it avoids a doomsday scenario is this why the club have avoided administration but have been on a drip feed of funds for almost 2 years?

Bearwood again interesting and the fact the club were trying to flog the asset rather than Couhig jumping on a bad situation.

From speaking with Rob, honest opinion and I don't want to influence anyone else, was he is a very open, hospitable person. He also, despite being offered numerous opportunities during the interview had the chance to throw people under the bus but avoided doing so. Make of that what you will.


Appreciate your time, must have taken a while to set up! Glad someone’s managed to do something the BBC should have been looking to do rather than just parroting the club. Hope you’re not losing your Bournemouth followers as a result!

Rob speaks as you’d expect in being very positive and sensible about how to run a club and you can see through the state of Wycombe that he does deliver. Only thing I felt was missing was on the collapse of his deal, as I edited into my earlier message.


Don't worry about the Bournemouth followers. The ones who know me will know how much both clubs mean to me and actually support it. The ones who are bothered by it being on there aren't worth worrying about and have short memories of what the Cherries were like in 2008 when I moved down here.

From what I got from Rob was he isn't sure why his deal collapsed himself. One day it was all done, money transferred ready to go. The club suggested the Purple Turtle pics which he obliged to doing and after trip number 5 they sent his money back. He paid the full amount and did not try and undercut Dai which is a popular myth.

From what was hinted at the time, from Rob's reluctance to name or shame anyone and from what we now know - I assume but have zero proof of this that Rob had exclusivity and it was Pang and/or Howe who were trying to get more money out of him therefore breaking the agreement or was looking to find an alternative buyer for more money before the money was sent back whilst Rob had exclusivity.


Of course he knows why it fell through.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by WestYorksRoyal » 28 Mar 2025 08:49

I feel like with the characters and egos involved, if a deal is made (not certain), it'll be at the latest possible moment. After 4 April and in the EFL's added time. Clearly Couhig likes the game of all this, and a few media reports suggest Platek is similar.

All I will say is everyone should want a deal to happen. Platek has the least to lose, but will have sunk legal and accountancy fees. Couhig can wave goodbye to any recourse from Dai if we go bust. And Dai receives nothing.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by From Despair To Where? » 28 Mar 2025 08:55

Doesn't sound like there's much to add from what was said in the podcast with Aaron Paul and Joe Jacobsen earlier in the week.

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Re: CONFIMRED - The final countdown

by From Despair To Where? » 28 Mar 2025 09:12

Sutekh Highlights nobody around here has a clue what is actually going on at the moment. Pulled from pillar to post with a ton of machinations going on. At the end of the day RC managed Wycombe into a very useful well run unit. Meanwhile Dai and his entourage of advisors (whoever they may be) have managed to do the polar opposite with Reading while Platek we know seems to sell and move on from things fairly quickly when what Reading really need is time and effort to stabilise and build back the foundations JM had.



That's a bit unfair on Platek. What's he done that Couhig hasn't done at Wycombe, and conversely, what's Couhig done at Wycombe that Platek hasn't done at Casa Pia?

I'd say their methods and level of success are comparable. We could do a lot worse than either.

I do think though that Couhig is seen by some as a pantomime villain because of the shenanigans with Bearwood.

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