Rasiak has left..

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Re: Rasiak has left..

by howser » 20 Aug 2010 20:03

I accept the "bums on seats" reasoning but wont supporters start to see through that, and remove their bums, if there is no appreciable investment in new players to achieve his somewhat pie in the sky wishes ??

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by Alan Partridge » 20 Aug 2010 20:11

Not sure that's a big issue. Can't imagine there's many if any that buy tickets and season tickets on what the chairman says. Actions speak louder than words and whilst no doubt about it big name signings or intent will put bums on seats, not sure RFC or any club will lose many of there existing fan base.

What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes. Even Portsmouth have been able to get Sonko and the full back from Stoke as they are short. How can a club that whilst I accept has had to be a lot more stringent on the transfer coffers this year, simply be in a position where signing half decent players on loan is complete pie in the sky. Going into championship matches with Gunnarsson and Pearce at centre back (without a massive injury crisis out of the blue) is completely unacceptable in my opinion. Feel sorry for Mcdermott because he'll take the can for this when results inevitably get worse if these two remain at centre half for an extended length of time.

McDermott is the first RFC manager for a LOT of years, we're talking 15-20 years to be given literally nothing on a player budget for a season. How can things be that bad here?

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by PEARCEY » 20 Aug 2010 20:13

^ Yep I've said some of this before. McD isn't being given the chance to shape the squad the way he may want to.He's living off scraps.

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by howser » 20 Aug 2010 20:19

Pearcy, isnt McD the master of his own destiny, as he scouted the players that won us the championship and we got them for a snip, is he not being expected to do the same again ??

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by PEARCEY » 20 Aug 2010 20:27

howser Pearcy, isnt McD the master of his own destiny, as he scouted the players that won us the championship and we got them for a snip, is he not being expected to do the same again ??


Its asking a hell of a lot to do it once let alone twice.


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by rob the royal » 20 Aug 2010 20:31

Alan Partridge Not sure that's a big issue. Can't imagine there's many if any that buy tickets and season tickets on what the chairman says. Actions speak louder than words and whilst no doubt about it big name signings or intent will put bums on seats, not sure RFC or any club will lose many of there existing fan base.

What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes. Even Portsmouth have been able to get Sonko and the full back from Stoke as they are short. How can a club that whilst I accept has had to be a lot more stringent on the transfer coffers this year, simply be in a position where signing half decent players on loan is complete pie in the sky. Going into championship matches with Gunnarsson and Pearce at centre back (without a massive injury crisis out of the blue) is completely unacceptable in my opinion. Feel sorry for Mcdermott because he'll take the can for this when results inevitably get worse if these two remain at centre half for an extended length of time.

McDermott is the first RFC manager for a LOT of years, we're talking 15-20 years to be given literally nothing on a player budget for a season. How can things be that bad here?


You are on my wavelength.

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by Alan Partridge » 20 Aug 2010 20:31

howser Pearcy, isnt McD the master of his own destiny, as he scouted the players that won us the championship and we got them for a snip, is he not being expected to do the same again ??


I'm sure it was a group effort. Coppell wasn't so out of the loop to have not heard of Gunnarsson, Makin, Hunt, Lita. The 2 Irish guys Coppell watched and took a chance on. How Doyle turned out was a miracle in all honesty.

From the looks of things BM doesn't even have the limited resources to be fair that these guys cost. He also doesn't have the advantage that Coppell had and that's previous experience and contacts in the game. A lot of early Coppell signings were players that had done the business for him at other clubs.

A severely limited budget and in all honesty probably a limited contacts list not a great recipe for success.

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by brighton_royal » 20 Aug 2010 20:36

Shall we have a whip round to ship Rasiak's lead-lined concrete boots out to Cyprus?

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by rob the royal » 20 Aug 2010 20:44

brighton_royal Shall we have a whip round to ship Rasiak's lead-lined concrete boots out to Cyprus?


Are you sure it wasn't gold? Afterall he was on megabucks... :lol:


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by paultheroyal » 20 Aug 2010 21:07

Back on thread i for one am delighted Rasiak has gone. Journeyman not suited to Reading FC and although he served a purpose, his time has come.

Thank you and goodbye.

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by loyalroyaldaz » 20 Aug 2010 21:07

The Chinese bloke has just pulled out of buying Liverpool. Anybody know his phone number ?

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by facaldaqui » 20 Aug 2010 21:17

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From the looks of things BM doesn't even have the limited resources to be fair that these guys cost. He also doesn't have the advantage that Coppell had and that's previous experience and contacts in the game. A lot of early Coppell signings were players that had done the business for him at other clubs.



I think McDermott's big disadvantage is that he was an unknown, promoted from within, who is grateful for the job. This must give him much less clout than Coppell, or even Rodgers, when talking to Madejski. Basically, he has to work with what he's given--you can tell from his comments that he probably did ask to buy or borrow Zurab and was told we can't afford it. Madejski seems to be calling the shots more than he ever has; he knows that McDermott will get on with it, unlike Rodgers, who Madejski said had a different view of the way ahead (or some such phrase).
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by RoyalBlue » 20 Aug 2010 21:17

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howser My only regret is the bollox of "getting back into the Premiership" that he spouts at the start of each season, when it clearly wouldn't appear to be that way.


Bums on seats mate. He's hardly going to say "could be a tough year, be lucky to stay up" is he?

tbh anyone buying STs in the expectation of a premier league push at board level is a mug. If it happens it'll happen at Hogwood and on the pitch.

Love him or loathe him JM has never been anything but straight up about the financial position of the club and how he's prepared to fund it.

Maybe those that want more investment in the team should have declined the ST price reduction.


As if the egotistical tightarsed barsteward would then have passed that extra money on to McD to spend on players!!!!


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by Wycombe Royal » 20 Aug 2010 21:21

Alan Partridge What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes.

That's right, I mean it isn't as if an ambitious big spending club like Forest would go into a season without a recognised left, then sign one on loan for a few months before finishing the season without a left back again. Is it?

We have three centre backs, the same number we had at the start of the 05/06 season.

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by Alan Partridge » 20 Aug 2010 21:30

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Alan Partridge What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes.

That's right, I mean it isn't as if an ambitious big spending club like Forest would go into a season without a recognised left, then sign one on loan for a few months before finishing the season without a left back again. Is it?

We have three centre backs, the same number we had at the start of the 05/06 season.


One of which wasn't injured before a ball was kicked in that case. Gunnarsson was also 4/5 years younger.

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by rob the royal » 20 Aug 2010 21:30

paultheroyal Back on thread i for one am delighted Rasiak has gone. Journeyman not suited to Reading FC and although he served a purpose, his time has come.

Thank you and goodbye.


Rasiak? what's he got to do with any of this?

Oh hang on I thought this was the McDermott says we've got no cash thread...

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by Wycombe Royal » 20 Aug 2010 21:38

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Alan Partridge What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes.

That's right, I mean it isn't as if an ambitious big spending club like Forest would go into a season without a recognised left, then sign one on loan for a few months before finishing the season without a left back again. Is it?

We have three centre backs, the same number we had at the start of the 05/06 season.


One of which wasn't injured before a ball was kicked in that case. Gunnarsson was also 4/5 years younger.

I see you ignore my question on Forest..........

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by Rev Algenon Stickleback H » 20 Aug 2010 23:22

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Alan Partridge What I find really hard to fathom is how this 'well run club' can't seemingly do what every other club in the country can do and sign a couple of players in positions where there are obvious massive holes.

That's right, I mean it isn't as if an ambitious big spending club like Forest would go into a season without a recognised left, then sign one on loan for a few months before finishing the season without a left back again. Is it?.

therein lies the problem.

These days ambitious = spending more than you can afford.

Until some restrictions are put in place to seriously punish clubs that willingly run up debt, any club tying to balance the books will be at a disadvantage.

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by The whole year inn » 20 Aug 2010 23:36

paultheroyal Back on thread i for one am delighted Rasiak has gone.


Same

He is a donkey with his best years behind him.

oxf*rd off

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Re: Rasiak has left..

by readingbedding » 20 Aug 2010 23:56

Happy about that...
Off to Cyprus, his ambition has matched his work rate for Reading and the previous club he loafed around for.

Won't be missed.

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