IN - or NOT?

[Terminal Boardom]

Alternatively, change the rules to mirror rugby. On the line, or breaking the pane of the line then it is a goal or out of play.

[Hoop Blah]

Alternatively, change the rules to mirror rugby. On the line, or breaking the pane of the line then it is a goal or out of play.

How would that actually help though? Surely that just moves the argument from beyond the line to touching it.

[robb the royal]

I'm at university, so had to wait until the beeb put it on their website (and i woke up from my drunken stupor) to have a look at this... my 1st reaction was it was a goal, but looking at it again, I am now not sure, the path of the ball suggests its not in and I managed to pause the highlights just as the ball bounces, but this doesnt help much either (i don't know how to post the picture here, sorry), but i THINK it is just over the line, but its very close!
As for goaline technology, video replays wouldn't work (as this goal shows) and will slow down the game, the only other option I can think of is a chip in the ball.
This was trialed a few years ago (at hogwood i think) and there is one major problem with it....
1)where in the ball do you put the chip? the ball will always be spinning and the chip may cross the line without the rest of the ball crossing, or (assuming they changed the laws of the game to say if the ball touched the line, its in), the chip might not touch the line when other parts of the ball did.
2) assuming the chip was in the centre, currently, the whole of the ball needs to cross the line, so for the chip to detect if this has happened, sensors would need to be half the width of the ball behind the line, on the goal posts, thus making the goals similar to hockey goals, which has been deemed to be dangerous to the players, especially when there is a goal mouth scramble... would you want to fall onto a piece of wood/plastic/metal a few inches wide? i wouldn't
3) the ball will deform during play, especially after its kicked, thats physics, so, assume a player kicks the ball from one yard out, and it is blocked just on the line by a defender, the ball will be deforming at this time, so the ball will get thinner, meaning it doesn't need to go as far into the goal to be a goal, but a chip in the ball won't take this into account.
4) what if the chip breaks?
5) who is going to pick up the bill for this new balls and sensors, its not going to be cheap! while it might not be a problem here, it would be in other countries.
6) the sensor may get blocked by mud, players or litter on the pitch.

While I think football is fine as it is, thats life that teams lose out on decisions like this, I think, the only solution to this 'problem' is extra linesmen (europa league style). The only problem then is, what do we call the 4th official now?

[Hoop Blah]

I think you're over simplifying the technology there. I'm sure they've covered the physics of how to measure the ball crossing the line and how to mount the sensors in the goal correctly.

[Snowball]

Just put a big sheet of clingfilm in the goal

[bigmike]

Just put a big sheet of clingfilm in the goal

Can you provide any stats that prove that putting clingfilm in the goal would help ?

[cmonurz]

There have been only 7 cases of goalkeeper suffocation from goal clingfilm since it's first use in 1984, but one of those was a keeper with athsma, and three were from Wales.

[Svlad Cjelli]

Just put a big sheet of clingfilm in the goal

Can you provide any stats that prove that putting clingfilm in the goal would help ?

probably not, because every time he tries to apply the clingfilm the goalposts move.

[Ian Royal]

[Terminal Boardom]

How many nobbers are considering where the ball is when it hits the ground rather than the trajectory from the bar? Just a thought. A ball can swerve in the air.

Maybe my on the line thought was a bit daft.

[Royalee]

Not in, impossible to go 'over the line' that close to the post and not hit the inside and at least go back across the line, if not back in. How the linesman can be on the ten yard marker and give that as a goal sums up how badly football is run nowadays.

[Millsy]

Not sure, and neither is HNA.

So one thing is for certain: the linesman could never be sure.

I've exhausted myself on HNA screaming for the URGENT need for video technology for SIGNIFICANT events in football (eg goals, penalties, red cards)

I won't even entertain those who disagree because quite frankly those who do are just not very bright.

[AthleticoSpizz]

NO NOT IN

The ref says it was...so it was


Just had to be bloody Bothroyd tho'

[sandman]

As for goaline technology, video replays wouldn't work (as this goal shows) and will slow down the game, the only other option I can think of is a chip in the ball.

What about the players running over to the linesman and debating (I use the term loosely) the incident with him for 2 minutes. Does that not slow the game down?

I think, the only solution to this 'problem' is extra linesmen (europa league style). The only problem then is, what do we call the 4th official now?

Fulham played Roma in the Europa League last season. John Arne Riise dived right in front of the official behind the line who subsequently gave a penalty.

Football is a multi million pound industry.Officials need all the help they can get because these mistakes can cost a lot of money and it's not fair on fans, teams or the officials.

[SLAMMED]

How many nobbers are considering where the ball is when it hits the ground rather than the trajectory from the bar? Just a thought. A ball can swerve in the air.

Maybe my on the line thought was a bit daft.

It would have to be spinning bloody fast to curve that much in such a short space.

[Ian Royal]

Not sure, and neither is HNA.

So one thing is for certain: the linesman could never be sure.

I've exhausted myself on HNA screaming for the URGENT need for video technology for SIGNIFICANT events in football (eg goals, penalties, red cards)

I won't even entertain those who disagree because quite frankly those who do are just not very bright.

Bollocks. A large percentage are sure. That doesn't mean they are all sure the same why. It's quite easy for the lino to have been sure.