Brian: The right decision?

[melonhead]

[Libertine]

Lets be fair about this, as I said to my work colleague earlier, how many games have we been to where we have come away saying we played well? Sunderland maybe?..but still not great, we won 5 games and in each of these barring West ham we could quite easily and maybe should have lost them.
Nice guy that BM is he clearly isn`t caplable yet of managing at the top level, to stay loyal to the group was dire management. everyone could see we were lacking apart from him, and he paid the ultimate price rightly

Ok. No arguments on the assessment of Brian and where we stand at this point in the season. I might not fully agree but I am in no mood to argue that. The point is if we are trying to change our results and stave off relegation are we better off with Dolan leading us? Was that their plan to save the season? We are managerless right now. I don't know how that helps what was trying to be fixed with the firing of Brian.

Wouldn't it have been more disrespectful to manoeuvre someone in position whilst the other guy was in charge so that the change was going to be made regardless of results a la Southampton.?

Worrying about hurting someone's feelings after you sacked them should be the least of the team's worries if the concern is about our PL survival. I would have felt far more reassured as a fan if they had a replacement all ready to step in...

[ManchesterRoyals]

It's interesting that almost every single piece of commentary I've read in papers today suggests this was a silly decision, whereas this board appears to have the opposite view.

Have the journalists and so called experts been following Reading this season? other than looking at the occasional result.
Outsiders see Reading in a league position where they expected them to be.
Insiders who have been to the majority of games, like many on this board, are aware that McDermott was under performing and therefore largely respect the decision to sack him.

Read this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -here.html

[P!ssed Off]

It's interesting that almost every single piece of commentary I've read in papers today suggests this was a silly decision, whereas this board appears to have the opposite view.

Have the journalists and so called experts been following Reading this season? other than looking at the occasional result.
Outsiders see Reading in a league position where they expected them to be.
Insiders who have been to the majority of games, like many on this board, are aware that McDermott was under performing and therefore largely respect the decision to sack him.

Read this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -here.html

I have read this, and a few others like it. However, the general expert giving their opinion seems to be the likes of Stan Collymore.

[ManchesterRoyals]

I have read this, and a few others like it. However, the general expert giving their opinion seems to be the likes of Stan Collymore.

Oh well we better believe the wife beater then

[barelylubedcock]

It's interesting that almost every single piece of commentary I've read in papers today suggests this was a silly decision, whereas this board appears to have the opposite view.

I think its about 50:50 on here.

Looking at the fans bothered to write in to, say, football365, its very much support for Brian in the 3 printed.

[P!ssed Off]

I have read this, and a few others like it. However, the general expert giving their opinion seems to be the likes of Stan Collymore.

Oh well we better believe the wife beater then

My point exactly. His opinion and much of the media's opinion on Reading is of absolutely no value.

[ManchesterRoyals]

I have read this, and a few others like it. However, the general expert giving their opinion seems to be the likes of Stan Collymore.

Oh well we better believe the wife beater then

My point exactly. His opinion and much of the media's opinion on Reading is of absolutely no value.

Agree

[Hoop Blah]

Timing and manner of this is completely off. Last thing we need with 9 games left to stay up. Brian has been a true and loyal servant to this club. Anton has proved what a total muppet he really is. Cannot begin to explain how pissed off I really feel about this.

New manager? Di Matteo or Adkins. Please please do not appoint Di Canio...I think we all know why...

A few people have referred to the manner or way he's been sacked, but what was the way? In what way was it bad? I can't imagine there is any easy way to give a football manager the sack but I can't see anything in the manner of his dismissal that is completely off.

[ManchesterRoyals]

Timing and manner of this is completely off. Last thing we need with 9 games left to stay up. Brian has been a true and loyal servant to this club. Anton has proved what a total muppet he really is. Cannot begin to explain how pissed off I really feel about this.

New manager? Di Matteo or Adkins. Please please do not appoint Di Canio...I think we all know why...

A few people have referred to the manner or way he's been sacked, but what was the way? In what way was it bad? I can't imagine there is any easy way to give a football manager the sack but I can't see anything in the manner of his dismissal that is completely off.

I agree its not like we just won the European cup or something

[melonhead]

Timing and manner of this is completely off. Last thing we need with 9 games left to stay up. Brian has been a true and loyal servant to this club. Anton has proved what a total muppet he really is. Cannot begin to explain how pissed off I really feel about this.

New manager? Di Matteo or Adkins. Please please do not appoint Di Canio...I think we all know why...

A few people have referred to the manner or way he's been sacked, but what was the way? In what way was it bad? I can't imagine there is any easy way to give a football manager the sack but I can't see anything in the manner of his dismissal that is completely off.

agreed.
we dont know the manner in which he was sacked for starters.


could have been by text = poor sacking maner
could have been after a long heartfelt chat = good sacking manner
we just dont know

[Snowball]

Most of those commentating don't seem to have considered what was probably
going to happen over the next 9 games with McDermott in charge

A few games ago I warned that if we didn't beat Wigan we were in danger of
going on a long run of defeats. There is unrest on the terraces, players upset
at being subbed, uncertainty about 451 v 442, odd substitutions etc.

I seriously believed that under Brian (who I like, but what has that got to do with anything)
we were about to be HUMILIATED. The first examples of that were MotD taking the p!ss over our two
fallings=over v Villa.

The gasket had blown. There was a tiny chance of a shock result at Old Trafford (as they've virtually sewn up the title)
and the same at The Emirates (because Arsenal often shoot themselves in the foot) BUT if those two results went to
form we could have shipped 4/5/6/7/8 at either/both grounds then lost 3 or 4 of the next 4.

We have been outclassed more or less the whole season but have hung in there with not too many "horrible" defeats

We still (just about) have our dignity.

Much as Brian is a good bloke he had started to thrash around wildly, blaming luck, talking about
"where we were three years ago", blaming refereeing decisions, talking down crucial games, making
odd sub-choices, talking of opposition strikers costing more than our whole team, etc

Add in the issues with Pearce, Federici, Guthrie, Caricco and the plot looked seriously lost

I was beginning to think we were going to ship 30+ goals in those last 9 games and maybe
lose them all.


HAD THAT HAPPENED the club might take years to recover its morale. That would have meant
relegation (of course) but the team ethos and team confidence would be shattered, the players'
belief in the gaffer would be ruined etc etc etc.

I feel sure that the new manager, while hardly likely to save us from relegation, will change
the spirit for the better, re-instill pride and make going down to the Championship, while not
pleasant, more manageable and less psychologically damaging

[mr_number]

It's interesting that almost every single piece of commentary I've read in papers today suggests this was a silly decision, whereas this board appears to have the opposite view.

I think its about 50:50 on here.

Looking at the fans bothered to write in to, say, football365, its very much support for Brian in the 3 printed.

Fair point; I guess I was just noting that there seems to be more positive reaction on here to the move than elsewhere

[melonhead]

Most of those commentating don't seem to have considered what was probably
going to happen over the next 9 games with McDermott in charge

what a lot of mystic meg tosh youve just typed


why is it set out as a poem?

[melonhead]

It's interesting that almost every single piece of commentary I've read in papers today suggests this was a silly decision, whereas this board appears to have the opposite view.

I think its about 50:50 on here.

Looking at the fans bothered to write in to, say, football365, its very much support for Brian in the 3 printed.

Fair point; I guess I was just noting that there seems to be more positive reaction on here to the move than elsewhere

thats cos this is the home of all the most reactionary and anti brian/ RFC fans

[Royal Ginger]

I believe this sacking is an utter load of crap. He was a hero mere months ago, earned the right to manage every minute of this season and the chance to sort it out next. I blame Danny Guthrie, the poisonous weasel. I've sat on the fence about him as long as i can, but if you want to point at where it all went wrong, in my opinion it's when that arse chucked his toys out. McDermott's reading has always been about the team, that was the strength, and he ruined it.

[barelylubedcock]

Most of those commentating don't seem to have considered what was probably
going to happen over the next 9 games with McDermott in charge

what a lot of mystic meg tosh youve just typed


why is it set out as a poem?

fucks sake brenders, I can't even begin to imagine that.

[Snowball]

Deal with the oxf*rd substance Brenders, instead of just trying to be cute.

I'm saying we were going into melt-down and McDermot HAD TO GO to save the club

It's a very good decision (for the club)

[windermere_royal]

I believe this sacking is an utter load of crap. He was a hero mere months ago, earned the right to manage every minute of this season

So did Adkins at Southampton, but they were ruthless just as we have been, I wonder if the Saints fans kicked up like as happened here, it appears their decision was vindicated, i hope ours is too.

[soggy biscuit]

It's a very good decision (for the club)

In your opinion which lots of people disagree with