Orlando Vs Kermorgant

[Dr_Hfuhruhurr]

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We shall see. Had the Fulham disaster not happened I'm sure that Orlando would have scored 10+ by now.

Its probably more relevant to base somebodies scoring record on what they did score.

[Top Flight]

Royally Ffffd up, your quote that:

McD doesn't really do talent though does he...

Is a tad unfair. When he has sold talented players in the past, it has been out of necessity rather than choice. It has been so that we can still have a Reading Football Club to watch. McDermott loves talented players and developing players so that their talents can be used to great effect to win football matches. He built a team around the mega talented Gylfi Sigurdsson and developed Shane Long into an outstanding striker. Don't tell me he doesn't do talent.

I, like you am also dissapointed that we have lost Orlando Sa. I agree with you that he was a good player, could hold the ball up, was strong, a good finisher etc... Based on footballing reasons, selling him and replacing him with Kermorgant made no sense to me whatsoever.

But, we have to understand that he was sold for non footballing reasons and that can happen in the world of professional football.

McDermott is a superb manager and I back his judgement. I'm dissapointed that it didn't work out with Orlando, but McDermott knows exactly what he is doing and he will sort us out.

[Vision]

I think not.

We know.

[leon]

Sa didn't want to be here.

Where is your evidence for that?

You're could be right though, he probably didn't want to be here once he'd had a week of training sessions under McDermott. Same goes for Blackman who played under him before don't forget, and could also see that under him we would be going nowhere fast. Plus the fact we are still a selling club.

Kermogant is better anyway.

We shall see. Had the Fulham disaster not happened I'm sure that Orlando would have scored 10+ by now. Bad mouth him and his temperament all you want, anyone that saw us play a few times this season will have seen that the guy clearly had some skill, his hold up play was very good, his link up was decent as was his finishing, he had some talent no question. McD doesn't really do talent though does he... Anyone with any real amount of it will be left in the cold and moved on before long then all that's left is a return to dreadful to watch style of football and any result we get is scrape, it seems we are already on the way.

Kermorgant's career highlight is having a poorly executed (and silly) chipped penalty saved in a shoot out in a play off semi for Leicester that cost them a place in the final. 42 goals in 127 apperances across 5 seasons in the Championship, ok is maybe slightly better than modest. But at 34 years of age how many seasons does he have left? And unless he's Zlatan Ibrahimovic in disguise, surely his best days are behind him? Orlando Sa is only 27 so has yet to even reach his peak and didn't even get 6 months or 20 games to get used to English football before he was unfairly alienated.

He's arguably the second most successful manager we've ever had (ie in 145 years)

That seems to be your best (or only) arguement. Hate to have to tell you that what happened before means next to nothing now.

Pop in every so often - give us an update.

Don't worry I will, McD being back certainly suits the old clappers and plastics, "but he's a such a lovely bloke our Brian" (which is the majority of this board), surprisingly you get more sense on Facebook (which most of you are old to have) where I got 20 likes for a comment on the ReadingFC page's story on Orlando leaving saying that I felt sorry for him, that its more proof that getting McD back was a mistake and that he's clueless The general feeling on there is along the same lines, and you get a lot less of the 'club (or Brian) can do no wrong' deluded attitude, so I may be in minority on here but in the minority of Reading of fans in general, I think not.

Great. You got a deal.

Now Royally Fcuk off will you.

[Nameless]

Not entirely sure where the evidence that Sa is a more talented player than Kermogant comes from.
They are both pretty much classic journeymen footballers although Sa's career seems to consist of never establishing himself anywhere whereas Kermogant has usually been part of the first team on a regular basis wherever he's played.
Technically it's hard to judge Kermogant on one showing, but Sa was decent without being outstanding (nowhere near the likes of Vydra or Piazzon in terms of technique). As a goalscorer Sa was underwhelming at best. Scored in 3 out of 21 games and whereas with Vydra you can argue there are a host of missed chances he should have scored, Sa never looked to be a goal machine just waiting to kick into action.
Sa was not a bad player, but he contributed little in his time here in reality and it is simply unsupportable to claim that is down to Brian not recognising 'talent'. If that was the case he'd have sent Vydra back and sold Norwood. Instead he's moved on a player who wanted to go and got very good money for a player who wanted to go, had enjoyed the one purple patch of his career and is now struggling to recreate that run of 10 games....

[RoyalX]

suprisingly you get more sense on Facebook (which most of you are old to have) where I got 20 likes for a comment on the ReadingFC page's story on Orlando leaving saying that I felt sorry for him, that its more proof that getting McD back was a mistake and that he's clueless

ooo, hark at Mr. Popular with his 20 likes on a Facebook post. I'm jealous I can't be as cool as you

[RoyallyFcuked]

Ooo touchy RF, sorry "mate" I ignored your correction....do feel free to write it down twice.though.
Thanx for the kind words etc

Posted it twice like you did with your shit joke you mean?

You started the kind words "mate", so you're welcome.

Great. You got a deal.

Now Royally Fcuk off will you.

Same old leon, boring clapper that is incapable of discussion.

ooo, hark at Mr. Popular with his 20 likes on a Facebook post. I'm jealous I can't be as cool as you

Wasn't saying it like that, I was just making the point that alot of people agreed with me even if they don't on here. Fcuk off back under your rock you little cretin.

[Nameless]

20 people liking your post hardly makes you representative of the views of 25,000 though.
24,980 didn't like you.

[John Smith]

suprisingly you get more sense on Facebook (which most of you are old to have) where I got 20 likes for a comment on the ReadingFC page's story on Orlando leaving saying that I felt sorry for him, that its more proof that getting McD back was a mistake and that he's clueless

Ollie Martin?

[RoyallyFcuked]

20 people liking your post hardly makes you representative of the views of 25,000 though.
24,980 didn't like you.

But 20 more than nearly all of the comments, and anyone who's comment was licking McDermott's ring piece out.

[Nameless]

20 people liking your post hardly makes you representative of the views of 25,000 though.
24,980 didn't like you.

But 20 more than nearly all of the comments, and anyone who's comment was licking McDermott's ring piece out.

Do you ever get into discussion or is your style to just post 'controversial' stuff and then throw childish abuse around ?

[Pseud O'Nym]

24,980 didn't like you.

24,981.

[RoyallyFcuked]

Do you ever get into discussion or is your style to just post 'controversial' stuff and then throw childish abuse around ?

I was getting to you and Top Flight, who both made fair points eariler on this page, fcuking hell give me a chance.

It's not controversial if a lot of people agree with it my friend, even if you don't.

24,980 didn't like you.

24,981.

Nameless I'm guessing you are too old to have Facebook but if 20 people liked it that doesn't mean that 24,980 people didn't, it means that they neither liked or disliked it, or just didn't see it. Facebook is more of an under 30s thing, you wouldn't understand.

Very funny Pseud.

[Nameless]

Funnily enough I do have the odd dabble on Facebook. Enough to know that 20 people clicking on the Like button is a bit of a pathetic bit of evidence to suggest 'most' people agree with you. How many clicked the 'don't like' button ? Ah, there isn't one....

Your priority seems to be being offensive, if you've got time to be gratuitously rude you've got time to be sensible. I suspect you're not old enough to have developed basic social skills.

[LWJ]

suprisingly you get more sense on Facebook (which most of you are old to have) where I got 20 likes for a comment on the ReadingFC page's story on Orlando leaving saying that I felt sorry for him, that its more proof that getting McD back was a mistake and that he's clueless

20 people out of 315,000 (thousand) likes on the page.

Soz Laurence you bellend

[leon]

Great. You got a deal.

Now Royally Fcuk off will you.

Same old leon, boring clapper that is incapable of discussion.

You've yet to put forward a coherent argument (note without the 'e' - what do they teach you kids at school these days?)

I suggest that an actual track record of getting a club promoted has substantially more weight than several random opinions.

[RoyallyFcuked]

20 people out of 315,000 (thousand) likes on the page.

Soz Laurence you bellend

Who's that? Coz it's not me haha you dickhead

[RoyallyFcuked]

Royally Ffffd up, your quote that:

McD doesn't really do talent though does he...

Is a tad unfair. When he has sold talented players in the past, it has been out of necessity rather than choice. It has been so that we can still have a Reading Football Club to watch. McDermott loves talented players and developing players so that their talents can be used to great effect to win football matches. He built a team around the mega talented Gylfi Sigurdsson and developed Shane Long into an outstanding striker. Don't tell me he doesn't do talent.

I, like you am also dissapointed that we have lost Orlando Sa. I agree with you that he was a good player, could hold the ball up, was strong, a good finisher etc... Based on footballing reasons, selling him and replacing him with Kermorgant made no sense to me whatsoever.

But, we have to understand that he was sold for non footballing reasons and that can happen in the world of professional football.

McDermott is a superb manager and I back his judgement. I'm dissapointed that it didn't work out with Orlando, but McDermott knows exactly what he is doing and he will sort us out.

Maybe a tad unfair. Although Sigurdsson had already become established in the first team under Rodgers, not sure how much both Sig and Long's progress was down to McD either to be honest.

Glad you agree on Orlando, it seems you have a decent eye for a footballer as well. As you say replacing a 27 year old with a 34 year old who at best is no better makes no sense whatsoever. Can only think its for financial reasons, this all seems like a massive cop out by RFC and Clarke's good work in the summer is being undone, although it seems he is somewhat to blame for that himself.

I have to disagree that McD is a superb manager, that is stretching it to breaking point if truth be told. I'm not sure he knows exactly what he's doing and even if he does whether it will work. We will see, I'll be more than happy to admit I was wrong. I can't remember having to do that on here though, (apart from thinking Blackman was shit but that was 99% of us) so you have been warned

[LWJ]

20 people out of 315,000 (thousand) likes on the page.

Soz Laurence you bellend

Who's that? Coz it's not me haha you dickhead

So you didn't write the comment then?

[LWJ]

Laurence Smith More proof that it was a huge mistake bringing McD back who clearly didn't like Orlando who I feel sorry for. McD is clueless, this season has turned into an absolute joke
19 likes

Matches your comment on here which you claimed was yours?