MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Pepe the Horseman » 21 Jan 2023 21:00

CountryRoyal I’ve not been well last few weeks and couldn’t sleep last “night” until 8am so needless to say didn’t make it to this one. Waste of £25 but tbh looks like a win not going.

Hope you're ok m8 x

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Hound » 21 Jan 2023 21:24

CountryRoyal I’ve not been well last few weeks and couldn’t sleep last “night” until 8am so needless to say didn’t make it to this one. Waste of £25 but tbh looks like a win not going.


Get well soon fella

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Sutekh » 21 Jan 2023 21:45

Royal_jimmy That was one of the worst displays I've been ever seen


Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2023 21:48

Seen worse, plenty worse over the years…get over it, it happens.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by RG30 » 21 Jan 2023 21:58

Left at 2-0 but excellent drinking session in Stoke.

Great scenes at HT with a punch or two thrown amongst the travelling support in the outside concourse area 8)


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by AthleticoSpizz » 21 Jan 2023 22:12

Eh?

1974 is asking

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by oldebiscuit » 22 Jan 2023 00:00

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Royal_jimmy That was one of the worst displays I've been ever seen


Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?



My first away game in a long time ,

Shocking! Totally gutlesss performance by the team , but then they only played to the instructions of the manager. So who is to blame?

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by oldebiscuit » 22 Jan 2023 00:14

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[Ian mode] I trust a professional ref over an armchair pundit [/Ian mode]

Glad you now decide to admit refs are fallible. Thought you'd lost your marbles last week.

You taken the idiot pills again Millsy?

I never said they weren't fallible. They can make mistakes, they don’t always have a good view or.see.something.

They're still better than anyone else at it though.


Typical Ian, getting personally aggressive when he's been caught with his pants down. :lol:


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Zip » 22 Jan 2023 10:21

According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.


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by Royal_jimmy » 22 Jan 2023 10:43

Zip According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.


Not surprised by this. He has 1 good game in every 8 at best

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2023 10:51

Zip According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.


Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.

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by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2023 11:23

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Zip According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.


Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.

10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2023 11:58

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Zip According to Alan Nixon Ovie has been told he can leave the club this,summer. Another expensive signing who just hasn't kicked on

We will be very lucky to get a million for him.


Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.

10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.


Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.


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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2023 12:00

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Would like for him to get a loan move out this window so we can try and freshen in up with another player somewhere, it will also held in trimming the wage bill at least for the remainder of the season.

I reckon we could get a seven figure fee for him, depending on any interested parties.

10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.


Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.

You're using Puscas? A player we've been failing to sell for two years? Including last summer when his previous club also had a buy option for millions of Euros and we went through about 4 different attempts to sell him and didn’t? Righto.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2023 12:04

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Snowflake Royal 10 goals in 140 appearances, 13 assists. Never played 40 games in a season and appearances decreasing. Slows the game down, dwells on the ball. No longer a young up and coming player. Attitude been questioned and he's a miserable sod.

7 figures seems extremely optimistic. Like most of our failed signings I think we'll struggle to shift him to anyone for more than a notional fee.


Does it though? Baring in mind we've just shifted on Puscas to Genoa with large wages and who have the option to purchase the player for around 4 million euros even though he scored 1 goal in 25 Championship appearances for us the last time he played for us (and 4 in 21 the previous season). He's also not exactly a young and up and coming player either now at 26.

The transfer market goes beyond just what we see. I think the emphasis is now on if clubs feel like they can get something different out of the player than what is shown at his previous club and if he fits their style of play. I don't think it's extremely optimistic, although I'm not saying it's a shoe-in either considering he's only got 12 months left on his deal (assuming a deal happens in the summer). I think it depends who is interested.

You're using Puscas? A player we've been failing to sell for two years? Including last summer when his previous club also had a buy option for millions of Euros and we went through about 4 different attempts to sell him and didn’t? Righto.


Correct, I am using a player that is still commanding a sizeable transfer fee despite being far from successful in the last couple of years for us...

Pisa didn't buy him last year as they didn't go up, thus likely couldn't afford him. The reports were they had an obligation to buy him for around 5 million euros if they were promoted. The point being, he still commanded a rather large transfer fee despite being poor for us.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2023 12:06

He hasn't commanded anything until a sale goes through.

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2023 12:09

Snowflake Royal He hasn't commanded anything until a sale goes through.


Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.

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by Snowflake Royal » 22 Jan 2023 12:13

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Snowflake Royal He hasn't commanded anything until a sale goes through.


Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.

Ok, well by that logic, Ejaria can command a 10 figure fee if we want to set it at that. It's not our fault if no one is willing to pay it. :roll:

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by YorkshireRoyal99 » 22 Jan 2023 12:17

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Snowflake Royal He hasn't commanded anything until a sale goes through.


Well he does because that's what we are wanting to sell him at. It's not our fault if the clubs can't afford him and don't meet the clauses to buy him, which Genoa's is reported to be around 3 million euros.

Ok, well by that logic, Ejaria can command a 10 figure fee if we want to set it at that. It's not our fault if no one is willing to pay it. :roll:


Well, yes he could be. We could want £10m for him if we wanted to. But we aren't going to do that obviously. Again, I'm not saying he will go for £1m or more, but it all depends on who is willing to go for him. If it's a Championship club, then I'd very much doubt it'll be a seven figure fee. If it's abroad, then maybe.

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Re: MATCHWATCH : Stoke City (a)

by Mid Sussex Royal » 22 Jan 2023 13:10

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Royal_jimmy That was one of the worst displays I've been ever seen


Is this the fault of the management or players just not being good enough ?



My first away game in a long time ,

Shocking! Totally gutlesss performance by the team , but then they only played to the instructions of the manager. So who is to blame?


Not completely - they were told to keep it tight early on and we are caught out messing around at the back in the first 10 minutes

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