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[G Force 1871]

NO, what a fkin ridiculous rule that is

[T.R.O.L.I.]

You can't appeal two yellows can you?

Don't think so - you can ask the ref to "have a look at it" but there is no appeal process.

[zac naloen]

There should be a process of reporting shit refs to the FA. They have to be answerable for their oxf*rd ups.

[PlasticRoyale]

My Old Man, an OT season ticket holder says the sending off was fecking ridiculous.

The league is so tight... really hope we get the win against West Ham

[londinium]

at the risk of sounding a little trite ... we have been well beaten, not by the officials but man utd

Trite, don't you mean daft?

Well beaten?

As for officials, anyone care to explain why Sodje warranted two yellows and Richardson gets away with a dreadful foul on Gunnarsson?

I didnt see the first half, but in the second half Manure were far the better team and regardless of the sending off they would have still ran out winners.

BTW..Richardson got carded for the tackle on Gunnarson

[RoyalBlue]

There should be a process of reporting shit refs to the FA. They have to be answerable for their oxf*rd ups.

As usual the FA would do sweet FA anyway. You've only got to look at the way they refused to overturn the ridiculous red for Konchesky.

BTW..Richardson got carded for the tackle on Gunnarson

But only yellow - not the red that should have applied if the barsteward ref had treated their players as strictly as he did ours.

[Ooo Trevor Morley]

at the risk of sounding a little trite ... we have been well beaten, not by the officials but man utd

You don't sound trite. You sound more like a moron.

It's hardly trite to say we've been well beaten by Man Utd as we don't regurlaly get beaten by united; the last time we played them it was a draw; the time before that involved a freak fluke of a goal off the shin of Paul Parker.

Besides, the score was 3-2, and we were playing with ten men with the referee giving everything United's way. In the first half we had the greater possession. Anyway trite is not the right word, nor is well-beaten.

[starbug]

didn't catch the replay but it seemed a very strange decision at the time, and surely he'd only pull back Rooney's shirt if he was in front of him in which case he's off-side hence the lino's flag. However is it still a foul if you foul someone offside... At the end of the day its a waste of time thinking about it!

On balance, Utd deserved the win, but to be beaten by two debatable offisde goals and a lucky rebound is seriously frustrating.

[Stranded]

didn't catch the replay but it seemed a very strange decision at the time, and surely he'd only pull back Rooney's shirt if he was in front of him in which case he's off-side hence the lino's flag. However is it still a foul if you foul someone offside... At the end of the day its a waste of time thinking about it!

On balance, Utd deserved the win, but to be beaten by two debatable offisde goals and a lucky rebound is seriously frustrating.

Well, under the new offside rules, Rooney can't be offside until the ball gets to him so if the ref feels a foul has been committed then he can yellow card him.

RoyalBlue - Sodje had two yellows (both a tad unlucky_, Richardson's tackle was only worthy of a yellow as well. So there was some consistancy.

[1960]

if you've got Sky you don't need to wait for MOTD. The first Football First at 8.25 has our game in full. The second Football First has us as the featured game for extended highlights. They should have time to analyse the refereeing decisions.

[RoyalBlue]

didn't catch the replay but it seemed a very strange decision at the time, and surely he'd only pull back Rooney's shirt if he was in front of him in which case he's off-side hence the lino's flag. However is it still a foul if you foul someone offside... At the end of the day its a waste of time thinking about it!

On balance, Utd deserved the win, but to be beaten by two debatable offisde goals and a lucky rebound is seriously frustrating.

Well, under the new offside rules, Rooney can't be offside until the ball gets to him so if the ref feels a foul has been committed then he can yellow card him.

RoyalBlue - Sodje had two yellows (both a tad unlucky_, Richardson's tackle was only worthy of a yellow as well. So there was some consistancy.

First of all, the ball doesn't have to reach the player for him to become active so a player can be offside before the ball reaches him.

My argument would be that at least one of Sodje's 'offences' did not warrant a yellow. Therefore if the ref is going to be that harsh then he should have treated Richardson's foul more severely. There was little consistency from the officials today but playing at Old Trafford what can we expect?!

[1960]

Just a bit of good news. In 4 games against the best two teams in the country we have drawn two and lost two by one goal.

Not bad, but what is even better is that we are the only team to have played both of them twice - the other teams around us or below us still have to play one or both of them. Mind you, the way Chelsea are playing, perhaps that's not such a problem.

[alad]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Man Utd were the better side, the game was totally one sided especially in the second half and that is reflected in the possession and shot stats. Reading scored as a result of two woeful errors and never looked like creating anything themselves BUT United's first and third goals were offside IMO so Reading can feel hard done by. In defence of the linesman for the third his view was blocked by a United player.

I thought United played OK but only really played well for 30 mins in the second half when they stepped it up. If Rooney and Ronaldo has stayed on the score would have been five or six as they (and Giggs) were tearing Reading to bits. The decision to bring them off and bring Richardson and Fletcher on almost backfired on Ferguson. That said they had enough chances to win two or three games and only some good keeping from Marcus kept the score down.

I thought Reading were disappointing and didn't play nearly as well as they had at Chelsea, but part of that was down to facing a much better side. A plus point has to be Lita, in both of the toughest away games of the season he has done little but when a chance has come his way he has finished it, a sign of a good striker and fair play to him. Doyle was non existant today and it looks as if being played out of position combined with the sheer amount of football he has played this season has caught up with him.

The ref was wrong to send Sodje off, but you can't go around lunging in at players when you have just come on.

Man of the match for me was Ronaldo, he was in a different league to everyone on the pitch today and set up the first and scored the other two. No one really stood out for me in the Reading side except Marcus who made some cracking saves and couldn't have done anything with the goals.

I expect abuse, but my view of the game is spot on and deep down everyone knows it so don't bother showing yourselves up with the predictable abuse.

[notloyalenuffroyal]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Abuse???????? Never

Of course you are the most enlightened of fans as ever alad! Your non biased opinions are well respected on this board and your outstanding match report shows the hallmarks of genius.

We shall of course bow down before your worshipfulness and listen to your clear and concise views knowing that you would never be influenced by your obsession with - what we all know as - "the best and biggest club in the world!"












Now OXF*ORD OFF AND LET US RANT LIKE REAL FOOTBALL FANS.

NON - BIASED **********MY ARSE***********

[G Force 1871]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Man Utd were the better side, the game was totally one sided especially in the second half and that is reflected in the possession and shot stats. Reading scored as a result of two woeful errors and never looked like creating anything themselves BUT United's first and third goals were offside IMO so Reading can feel hard done by. In defence of the linesman for the third his view was blocked by a United player.
I thought United played OK but only really played well for 30 mins in the second half when they stepped it up. If Rooney and Ronaldo has stayed on the score would have been five or six as they (and Giggs) were tearing Reading to bits. The decision to bring them off and bring Richardson and Fletcher on almost backfired on Ferguson. That said they had enough chances to win two or three games and only some good keeping from Marcus kept the score down.

I thought Reading were disappointing and didn't play nearly as well as they had at Chelsea, but part of that was down to facing a much better side. A plus point has to be Lita, in both of the toughest away games of the season he has done little but when a chance has come his way he has finished it, a sign of a good striker and fair play to him. Doyle was non existant today and it looks as if being played out of position combined with the sheer amount of football he has played this season has caught up with him.

The ref was wrong to send Sodje off, but you can't go around lunging in at players when you have just come on.

Man of the match for me was Ronaldo, he was in a different league to everyone on the pitch today and set up the first and scored the other two. No one really stood out for me in the Reading side except Marcus who made some cracking saves and couldn't have done anything with the goals.

I expect abuse, but my view of the game is spot on and deep down everyone knows it so don't bother showing yourselves up with the predictable abuse.

If the Lino's view is blocked by a United player then he is in the wrong position or the united player is the furthest player forward and is therefore offside. HTH

I thought that this view was from someone else, you are the most arrogant person in the world.

[alad]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Abuse???????? Never

Of course you are the most enlightened of fans as ever alad! Your non biased opinions are well respected on this board and your outstanding match report shows the hallmarks of genius.

We shall of course bow down before your worshipfulness and listen to your clear and concise views knowing that you would never be influenced by your obsession with - what we all know as - "the best and biggest club in the world!"












Now OXF*ORD OFF AND LET US RANT LIKE REAL FOOTBALL FANS.

NON - BIASED **********MY ARSE***********

I was cheering on Reading today m8, but just telling it like it is.

[rotherwick_royal]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Abuse???????? Never

Of course you are the most enlightened of fans as ever alad! Your non biased opinions are well respected on this board and your outstanding match report shows the hallmarks of genius.

We shall of course bow down before your worshipfulness and listen to your clear and concise views knowing that you would never be influenced by your obsession with - what we all know as - "the best and biggest club in the world!"

Now OXF*ORD OFF AND LET US RANT LIKE REAL FOOTBALL FANS.

NON - BIASED **********MY ARSE***********

Surely Alad's on a fishing expedition. Nobody can be that far up their own arse


Can they?

[The 17 Bus]

One salient point is that RFC did not create very much, seems the same all season, do we still have the lowest shots on target in the division?

I just fail to see us creating, which is spoiling it for me, and we do not really seem to push on, same as creating I suppose.

[Coppell's Right Footed 11]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Man Utd were the better side, the game was totally one sided especially in the second half and that is reflected in the possession and shot stats. Reading scored as a result of two woeful errors and never looked like creating anything themselves BUT United's first and third goals were offside IMO so Reading can feel hard done by. In defence of the linesman for the third his view was blocked by a United player.

I thought United played OK but only really played well for 30 mins in the second half when they stepped it up. If Rooney and Ronaldo has stayed on the score would have been five or six as they (and Giggs) were tearing Reading to bits. The decision to bring them off and bring Richardson and Fletcher on almost backfired on Ferguson. That said they had enough chances to win two or three games and only some good keeping from Marcus kept the score down.

I thought Reading were disappointing and didn't play nearly as well as they had at Chelsea, but part of that was down to facing a much better side. A plus point has to be Lita, in both of the toughest away games of the season he has done little but when a chance has come his way he has finished it, a sign of a good striker and fair play to him. Doyle was non existant today and it looks as if being played out of position combined with the sheer amount of football he has played this season has caught up with him.

The ref was wrong to send Sodje off, but you can't go around lunging in at players when you have just come on.

Man of the match for me was Ronaldo, he was in a different league to everyone on the pitch today and set up the first and scored the other two. No one really stood out for me in the Reading side except Marcus who made some cracking saves and couldn't have done anything with the goals.

I expect abuse, but my view of the game is spot on and deep down everyone knows it so don't bother showing yourselves up with the predictable abuse.

To be fair i agree with the goals but i would credit Solskjaer as it was a good run and fantastic ball by Ronaldo. Though Sonko's ball watching is a big concern for me.

I thought we did well first half and to be honest we never expected to get anything out of these two fixtures and we ground out a draw at Chelsea playing some good football but Man United and Ronaldo make even the top teams look stupid. When they play with width i always new we would be in trouble in the second half.

Sodje went in a bit to hard a couple of times but to be fair the lad has always been chucked in at the deep end and for the lads to get another goal can only give the boys confidence after being down to ten men.

We didn't play that great in the second half but thats because Man United were unstoppable to be perfectly honest, and they create that many chances against everyone.

If someone said to me you will score 4 goals in your next two away games getting a point, and losing by the odd goal at Man Utd i would of laughed. We have really shown that we are deserving of a place in the premiership, just hope we can continue our belief starting against west ham on monday.

Urzzzz. P.S lita's biggest critic, but the lad has been fantastic the last couple of games at the toughest of places.

[alad]

Heres a non biased view from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Man Utd were the better side, the game was totally one sided especially in the second half and that is reflected in the possession and shot stats. Reading scored as a result of two woeful errors and never looked like creating anything themselves BUT United's first and third goals were offside IMO so Reading can feel hard done by. In defence of the linesman for the third his view was blocked by a United player.

I thought United played OK but only really played well for 30 mins in the second half when they stepped it up. If Rooney and Ronaldo has stayed on the score would have been five or six as they (and Giggs) were tearing Reading to bits. The decision to bring them off and bring Richardson and Fletcher on almost backfired on Ferguson. That said they had enough chances to win two or three games and only some good keeping from Marcus kept the score down.

I thought Reading were disappointing and didn't play nearly as well as they had at Chelsea, but part of that was down to facing a much better side. A plus point has to be Lita, in both of the toughest away games of the season he has done little but when a chance has come his way he has finished it, a sign of a good striker and fair play to him. Doyle was non existant today and it looks as if being played out of position combined with the sheer amount of football he has played this season has caught up with him.

The ref was wrong to send Sodje off, but you can't go around lunging in at players when you have just come on.

Man of the match for me was Ronaldo, he was in a different league to everyone on the pitch today and set up the first and scored the other two. No one really stood out for me in the Reading side except Marcus who made some cracking saves and couldn't have done anything with the goals.

I expect abuse, but my view of the game is spot on and deep down everyone knows it so don't bother showing yourselves up with the predictable abuse.

To be fair i agree with the goals but i would credit Solskjaer as it was a good run and fantastic ball by Ronaldo. Though Sonko's ball watching is a big concern for me.

I thought we did well first half and to be honest we never expected to get anything out of these two fixtures and we ground out a draw at Chelsea playing some good football but Man United and Ronaldo make even the top teams look stupid. When they play with width i always new we would be in trouble in the second half.

Sodje went in a bit to hard a couple of times but to be fair the lad has always been chucked in at the deep end and for the lads to get another goal can only give the boys confidence after being down to ten men.

We didn't play that great in the second half but thats because Man United were unstoppable to be perfectly honest, and they create that many chances against everyone.

If someone said to me you will score 4 goals in your next two away games getting a point, and losing by the odd goal at Man Utd i would of laughed. We have really shown that we are deserving of a place in the premiership, just hope we can continue our belief starting against west ham on monday.

Urzzzz. P.S lita's biggest critic, but the lad has been fantastic the last couple of games at the toughest of places.

Totally agree, the winners today were football and Reading FC. It showed just how far the club has come in a short space of time. United were the better side but the never say die attitude from Reading gave them a big scare and shows just why Reading are mid table and will stay up with ease.