by Millsy » 16 Jan 2010 18:38
by Millsy » 16 Jan 2010 18:40
Scarface Well where are all the RTG's crying for McDermott to get the job? The cup is a total irrelevance in our position, so far it's 2 points from 12 in the league and that is relegation form. Well done Brian, you're definately the right man for the job.
Madejski/Hammond, appoint a proper manager before it's too late.
by Millsy » 16 Jan 2010 18:41
Ian Royal I forgive you.
Seriously though. The Liverpool games were fantastic and great for the club, but they're pretty meaningless when it comes to the real importance of our League situation. They could galvinise us and give us a huge confidence boost, but really they're one offs that can't be taken into account.
by Alan Partridge » 16 Jan 2010 18:41
by Sir Dodger Royal » 16 Jan 2010 18:43
by Arch » 16 Jan 2010 19:46
John Peel From today's Indy. Fair assessment?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 69425.html
McDermott must stoke Reading's home fires
In the week of Reading's midweek victory at Anfield it was widely asserted that caretaker manager Brian McDermott should be given the job permanently. The reality is he deserves only an extended trial.
Since replacing Brendan Rodgers, McDermott has also overseen three draws, one at home to Liverpool, and a 4-1 thrashing by relegation rivals Plymouth. Managers should not be hired on such results.
It can be argued that as the best performances are the most recent, against Liverpool in the FA Cup, McDermott's methods are now taking effect. The counter is that, in twice outplaying Liverpool, Reading's players have shown they are hugely underperforming in the league. That is down to their managers.
They have played particularly poorly at home, winning one of 12 matches. Teams are always under more pressure at home, and Reading, having been in last season's play-offs, were also expected to be promotion contenders. That they were able to play fluid, enterprising football at Anfield suggests the problem has been one of failing to cope with these expectations. Against Liverpool, with nothing expected of them, they relaxed and played with freedom, benefiting from Liverpool being the team cramped by expectation.
What John Madejski, Reading's owner-chairman, must decide is whether McDermott is the man who can enable the players to cast off their inhibitions in the league.
The only way to find out is to wait another month. Today's match at Nottingham Forest is no guide, there is no expectation on Reading, nor in the Cup tie against Burnley and following league match at Bramall Lane. But in the fortnight from 30 January Reading play four clubs in the Championship's bottom 10 and will be expected to win. If they win most of them, McDermott should get the job.
g.moore@independent.co.uk
by Ups and Downs » 16 Jan 2010 19:55
ArchJohn Peel From today's Indy. Fair assessment?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 69425.html
McDermott must stoke Reading's home fires
In the week of Reading's midweek victory at Anfield it was widely asserted that caretaker manager Brian McDermott should be given the job permanently. The reality is he deserves only an extended trial.
Since replacing Brendan Rodgers, McDermott has also overseen three draws, one at home to Liverpool, and a 4-1 thrashing by relegation rivals Plymouth. Managers should not be hired on such results.
It can be argued that as the best performances are the most recent, against Liverpool in the FA Cup, McDermott's methods are now taking effect. The counter is that, in twice outplaying Liverpool, Reading's players have shown they are hugely underperforming in the league. That is down to their managers.
They have played particularly poorly at home, winning one of 12 matches. Teams are always under more pressure at home, and Reading, having been in last season's play-offs, were also expected to be promotion contenders. That they were able to play fluid, enterprising football at Anfield suggests the problem has been one of failing to cope with these expectations. Against Liverpool, with nothing expected of them, they relaxed and played with freedom, benefiting from Liverpool being the team cramped by expectation.
What John Madejski, Reading's owner-chairman, must decide is whether McDermott is the man who can enable the players to cast off their inhibitions in the league.
The only way to find out is to wait another month. Today's match at Nottingham Forest is no guide, there is no expectation on Reading, nor in the Cup tie against Burnley and following league match at Bramall Lane. But in the fortnight from 30 January Reading play four clubs in the Championship's bottom 10 and will be expected to win. If they win most of them, McDermott should get the job.
g.moore@independent.co.uk
That is an excellent assessment.
by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:03
by Pseud O'Nym » 16 Jan 2010 20:28
by Wycombe Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:37
Pseud O'Nym Must say I became more dubious about him today when I saw the teamsheet, with Sigurdsson out playing Cisse and Karachan left McAnuff as the only creative player.
by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:40
Wycombe RoyalPseud O'Nym Must say I became more dubious about him today when I saw the teamsheet, with Sigurdsson out playing Cisse and Karachan left McAnuff as the only creative player.
Who else could he have played in central midfield? Howard was the only other first team central midfielder who was fit and most on here don't want him in the team?
by Pseud O'Nym » 16 Jan 2010 20:41
Wycombe RoyalPseud O'Nym Must say I became more dubious about him today when I saw the teamsheet, with Sigurdsson out playing Cisse and Karachan left McAnuff as the only creative player.
Who else could he have played in central midfield? Howard was the only other first team central midfielder who was fit and most on here don't want him in the team?
by Wycombe Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:48
Pseud O'NymWycombe RoyalPseud O'Nym Must say I became more dubious about him today when I saw the teamsheet, with Sigurdsson out playing Cisse and Karachan left McAnuff as the only creative player.
Who else could he have played in central midfield? Howard was the only other first team central midfielder who was fit and most on here don't want him in the team?
Yes, it would have had to be Howard. I don't expect McDermott was thinking much about what most on here want when he made his selection.
by Pseud O'Nym » 16 Jan 2010 20:53
Wycombe Royal No he played the central midfielder who had done a decent job in midfield against a better side in the previous two matches. Forest were also a better side and so there was no need to change a central midifeld partnership that was doing OK.
If he had changed it and brought in Howard for Cisse and we lost today then he would have been criticised for breaking up the midfield duo from the two matches against Liverpool. Basically the only way he wouldn't have got criticised is if we hadn't lost.
by Ian Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:55
by Wycombe Royal » 16 Jan 2010 20:59
Pseud O'NymWycombe Royal No he played the central midfielder who had done a decent job in midfield against a better side in the previous two matches. Forest were also a better side and so there was no need to change a central midifeld partnership that was doing OK.
If he had changed it and brought in Howard for Cisse and we lost today then he would have been criticised for breaking up the midfield duo from the two matches against Liverpool. Basically the only way he wouldn't have got criticised is if we hadn't lost.
He took Cisse of on Wednesday and replaced him with Howard after which we seemed to improve, as indeed we did today, which is what led me think that was a better choice.
by Platypuss » 16 Jan 2010 21:07
John Peel The only way to find out is to wait another month. Today's match at Nottingham Forest is no guide, there is no expectation on Reading, nor in the Cup tie against Burnley and following league match at Bramall Lane. But in the fortnight from 30 January Reading play four clubs in the Championship's bottom 10 and will be expected to win. If they win most of them, McDermott should get the job.
g.moore@independent.co.uk
by Pseud O'Nym » 16 Jan 2010 21:08
Wycombe Royal So it led you to believe he was the better choice, but only after seeing inprovements against Liverpool on Wednesday and TODAY against Forest after Cisse was substituted. Unfortunately McD couldn't select his team based on both of those.
Today was always going to be a tough game and the majority of managers would go with the more defensive player over the more attacking one in those circumstances.
Hindsight though is a wonderful thing.....
by Wycombe Royal » 16 Jan 2010 21:12
Pseud O'NymWycombe Royal So it led you to believe he was the better choice, but only after seeing inprovements against Liverpool on Wednesday and TODAY against Forest after Cisse was substituted. Unfortunately McD couldn't select his team based on both of those.
No, I thought it based on the improvement after the substitution on Wednesday.Today was always going to be a tough game and the majority of managers would go with the more defensive player over the more attacking one in those circumstances.
Hindsight though is a wonderful thing.....
I thought it looked unlikely to work as soon as I saw the team though.
by Platypuss » 16 Jan 2010 21:15
Wycombe Royal But I'll go with thw person who has been in football for over 30 years and who has worked with Cisse ever since he joined the club over someone who thinks they know better on the Internet.
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