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[andrew1957]

We don't need faith, thanks to science.


There are thousands of documented cases of spontaneous remission without treatment.

Absolutely brilliant you experienced something like and your illness galvanised you into a healthier lifestyle.

I do hope no one ever follows your advice to ignore treatment and dies though, because that would be on your conscience.

I find the idea of spontaneous remission/healing fascinating. I suppose it is the way the non religious explain all the inexplicable events that happen in life. Personally I find it easier to believe that there is a God/higher power than just trying to explain everything away as just some form of luck.

A healthier lifestyle and good diet is certain to benefit everyone who goes down that route.

I would never tell anyone what they should or should not do. We all have to make our own choices, but if I am on to something and yet sit back and say nothing, surely I would be equally guilty and have that on my conscience.

[Snowflake Royal]

We don't need faith, thanks to science.


There are thousands of documented cases of spontaneous remission without treatment.

Absolutely brilliant you experienced something like and your illness galvanised you into a healthier lifestyle.

I do hope no one ever follows your advice to ignore treatment and dies though, because that would be on your conscience.

I find the idea of spontaneous remission/healing fascinating. I suppose it is the way the non religious explain all the inexplicable events that happen in life. Personally I find it easier to believe that there is a God/higher power than just trying to explain everything away as just some form of luck.

A healthier lifestyle and good diet is certain to benefit everyone who goes down that route.

I would never tell anyone what they should or should not do. We all have to make our own choices, but if I am on to something and yet sit back and say nothing, surely I would be equally guilty and have that on my conscience.

The alternative to luck being the capricious choices of a higher power is all just too sickening given how much suffering and injustice there is illness.

[andrew1957]

thanks, interesting stuff. Would like to cut down on the sugar myself, once you're properly off it you dont even miss it do you? Highly addictive

Indeed. I used to struggle to walk up the chocolate isle in the supermarket without buying some. Now I don't miss it. Sugar is very addictive and responsible for a great deal of our ill health. Fizzy drinks (even diet ones) are also a major no no.

Brilliant that here you are over 4 years on from being diagnosed with terminal cancer.
You may not wish to share any further details, and I would respect that but if you were prepared to, could you confirm where the cancer was, out of interest (in your body not geographically ) and did you have any surgery, chemo or radiotherapy?.

Also, from personal experience, I know that NHS are reluctant to give a time frame for malignant tumour cases but of course we can all read and in the written word there is often an indication of average life expectancy which of course importantly is just an average.

Regrettably people often confuse remission with being clear of cancer altogether but if the latter is the case with you then maybe count your blessings and thank your nutritionist as you clearly are the exception to the norm and may your good fortune continue for many years more although the stress of following Reading FC is not great for any of our long term health prospects. .

Good questions. I seem to get mouth cancers. Ironically these are normally smokers cancers, but I have never ever even tried a cigarette. I first had tongue cancer in 2003 at the age of 45 - caught it early and just had an op to remove it (no chemo or further treatment needed). As I was a non smoker and had cancer young I was considered very high risk and so the NHS monitored me regularly and between 2003 and 2016 I had 6-7 more growths which were removed from various parts of my mouth - but all were benign. I went in for yet another biopsy to remove a lump from the inside of my gum in March 2017 - which is the one which turned out to be a serious cancer.

When the oncologist gave me the biopsy results in late April he said that I would need a large part of my mouth removed and all my lymph glands. The op would take 7 hours and I would then be in intensive care for 2 weeks and an estimated further 5 weeks after that in hospital to recuperate. He said if I was very lucky I "might" get another 5 years. I went home and considered my options. To me refusing all treatment was an easy decision as I knew I would be maimed. I would never have worked again and even if I had survived the op, I would have had a miserable life. I decided very early on that if I could not find alternative treatments that I would rather be dead.

Fortunately after my first cancer I had read and researched into cancer for more than 10 years and so was very well versed with potential alternative treatments - as there are many being used across the world. And so I had zero treatment for this second cancer. I attended what was supposed to be my pre-op and told the oncologist that I was discharging myself and he got very angry with me and lectured me for over an hour telling me that I was irresponsible and was letting my family down (I could not believe how angry he got). On 4 occasions he said "you do realise that without treatment you have less than 6 months to live". You are right that despite me repeatedly asking him to confirm this timescale in writing, I never managed to persuade him to do so (they never will) and so the letters are more wishy washy - but he definitely said it - I think out of anger and frustration. Perhaps he was just trying to frighten me - I don't know. I could not believe the way he treated me and disrespected my decision. But in away it was positive as it gave me an absolute determination to prove him wrong. I write to him every now and again to tell him I am still alive and well. I intend to drop him a line in April 2022 to say I got my 5 years!

I am definitely not in remission. We moved house in late 2017 and I am now under a completely different health trust and so asked to see a new oncologist and he went through scans/tests etc in April/May 2018 and said he could find absolutely no sign of cancer.

And interestingly, I have had no further non malignant growths in my mouth either since the change of diet.

[andrew1957]

Yeah there's a lot of red flags in Andrew's account, obviously it's great that he had a spontaneous remission and eating healthily is a good idea in any case but I don't think anyone should use him as an example.

Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. If you want to speak to someone about personal nutrition, speak to a dietician.

Candida is a very popular boogeyman with "alternative medicine" types. It seems like Andrew's nutritionist "diagnosed" him with Invasive Candidiasis, which is not something you cure by cutting out sugar! If you don't get antifungal treatment then prognosis is very poor.

Sugar doesn't "feed" cancer any more than any other energy source, your body can break down almost anything you eat into glucose and then to ATP and all cells, cancerous or not, need that for energy. Sugar adds calories but it isn't carcinogenic.

The real kicker is the line about the immune system being at 95% and then 100%. This is just nonsense. With something like blood oxygen levels, sure, you can quantify that as a percentage pretty easily. But the immune system? It's far too complex. On a population level we could say that e.g. taking steroids tends to suppress your B lymphocytes by X%. But to the best of my knowledge, there is no way of measuring that and little clinical use.

Honestly, it sounds very much like someone who knows what the customer wants to hear and tells them it.

Andrew - if this is working for you then of course you will trust yourself over randomers on the internet. I would suggest, however, that you speak to your GP about whether the vaccine is safe for you. I would suggest that your cancer risk from the vaccine is likely to be lower than the cancer risk of walking down the road for a few minutes, breathing in car exhaust and getting UV light on your skin.

You say that anyone can call themselves a nutritionist. Well anyone can call themselves a solicitor but it does not mean anything if they have not been through law school. My nutritionist is well qualified - there are qualifications. And just for clarity I asked to see about the cancer her "after" I had discharged myself from the NHS. I sought her out. She was not trying to sell me anything. And she initially said that her general advice to all her clients was to take the NHS care AND also do the diet stuff which she had found improved the survival rate massively. I was the first and still only client who has ever refused NHS treatment under her care. She had no influence over me.

The difference between a nutritionist and a dietitian is that a dietitian just gives advice on diet whereas a nutritionist will also consider what every individual needs in terms of vitamin boosters etc to boost their gut health and immune system. I am sure dietitians do a good job but it is very one dimensional rather than holistic.

You are 100% wrong about candida. It can be fixed by diet alone. We don't need pharma drugs to solve every problem. I am not saying sugar is carcinogenic but rather that when you have cancer it feeds it. I cannot prove it by my belief is that in my case I cut off the food supply and the cancer just died. There might be no proof of my beliefs - but there are multiple medical trials that have shown how bad sugar is for most of us, so I cannot see that cutting it out/reducing the amount we consume can be bad for any of us.

All drugs/vaccines carry a low risk of cancer. Clearly as I am very prone to cancer it is my opinion that the risk to me will be much greater than the risk to an average person. As it happens I have no GP to talk to. I am registered at practice near where we now live but I have not been to see anyone there since we moved in 2017 as I have never even had a cold. I am just on a list with no GP appointed.

The nutritionist has a machine that measures the electrical currents through the body - much like acupuncture. I did not know such machines existed and I was super skeptical when I first met her many years ago (well before the cancer) but I knew I had issues that came up in an NHS blood test at that time. I did not tell her what those issues were but she was able to find them within 5 minutes. The machine does give immune system readings whether you believe it or not. She has told me she has a number of GPs who are clients - as the NHS has nothing remotely as advanced.

Re your final point I asked to see her. She has never tried to exert any influence over me and if anything tried to persuade me not to discharge myself from NHS care. When I went to see her my intention was just to live as long and as healthily as I could. I suppose I had accepted the death sentence and was in no way certain that I would survive and I think we were both profoundly shocked at how quickly I recovered and the cancer went.

[andrew1957]

We don't need faith, thanks to science.


There are thousands of documented cases of spontaneous remission without treatment.

Absolutely brilliant you experienced something like and your illness galvanised you into a healthier lifestyle.

I do hope no one ever follows your advice to ignore treatment and dies though, because that would be on your conscience.

I find the idea of spontaneous remission/healing fascinating. I suppose it is the way the non religious explain all the inexplicable events that happen in life. Personally I find it easier to believe that there is a God/higher power than just trying to explain everything away as just some form of luck.

A healthier lifestyle and good diet is certain to benefit everyone who goes down that route.

I would never tell anyone what they should or should not do. We all have to make our own choices, but if I am on to something and yet sit back and say nothing, surely I would be equally guilty and have that on my conscience.

The alternative to luck being the capricious choices of a higher power is all just too sickening given how much suffering and injustice there is illness.

Would you rather be a robot in a perfect world with no capacity for individual thought/action. Our world might be messed up by mankind's bad choices but you cannot blame God for our poor choices. And there is a cycle of life. If no one ever got ill and died we would have a very overpopulated planet. I have suffered more misfortune than most in my life (in health and in other ways). I could have become bitter and twisted by it all but instead I have seen it all as an amazing learning experience. I believe we are here to learn and develop spiritually - so we are prepared for what lies ahead.

Anyway as I said earlier that is it from me. Have a good weekend one and all. Shame there is no RFC match today but hopefully this discussion has been of interest to some of you.

[Ascotexgunner]

On a more happier note Bournmouth
Their lead has vanished and the board must be getting jittery........No promotion and FFP on its way to kick their door down.
Cmon Blackburn. Would rather them. Matey there has done a great job.

[Royals and Racers]

Oh dear !!! In bottom 3 at the moment.

[Zip]

It’s a good time to play Blackpool. Then again we made them look like a Barcelona

[Royals and Racers]

4th from bottom now

[tidus_mi2]

I think a draw would have been the best result but Blackpool now 2-1 up vs Peterborough, so would be unlikely for them to turn it around now this late.

[Zip]

I think a draw would have been the best result but Blackpool now 2-1 up vs Peterborough, so would be unlikely for them to turn it around now this late.

Happy for a Blackpool win.

[tidus_mi2]

I think a draw would have been the best result but Blackpool now 2-1 up vs Peterborough, so would be unlikely for them to turn it around now this late.

Happy for a Blackpool win.

I do agree, a Boro win and starting our game outside the relegation zone could have been the psychological boost they needed.

[South Coast Royal]

Indeed. I used to struggle to walk up the chocolate isle in the supermarket without buying some. Now I don't miss it. Sugar is very addictive and responsible for a great deal of our ill health. Fizzy drinks (even diet ones) are also a major no no.

Brilliant that here you are over 4 years on from being diagnosed with terminal cancer.
You may not wish to share any further details, and I would respect that but if you were prepared to, could you confirm where the cancer was, out of interest (in your body not geographically ) and did you have any surgery, chemo or radiotherapy?.

Also, from personal experience, I know that NHS are reluctant to give a time frame for malignant tumour cases but of course we can all read and in the written word there is often an indication of average life expectancy which of course importantly is just an average.

Regrettably people often confuse remission with being clear of cancer altogether but if the latter is the case with you then maybe count your blessings and thank your nutritionist as you clearly are the exception to the norm and may your good fortune continue for many years more although the stress of following Reading FC is not great for any of our long term health prospects. .

Good questions. I seem to get mouth cancers. Ironically these are normally smokers cancers, but I have never ever even tried a cigarette. I first had tongue cancer in 2003 at the age of 45 - caught it early and just had an op to remove it (no chemo or further treatment needed). As I was a non smoker and had cancer young I was considered very high risk and so the NHS monitored me regularly and between 2003 and 2016 I had 6-7 more growths which were removed from various parts of my mouth - but all were benign. I went in for yet another biopsy to remove a lump from the inside of my gum in March 2017 - which is the one which turned out to be a serious cancer.

When the oncologist gave me the biopsy results in late April he said that I would need a large part of my mouth removed and all my lymph glands. The op would take 7 hours and I would then be in intensive care for 2 weeks and an estimated further 5 weeks after that in hospital to recuperate. He said if I was very lucky I "might" get another 5 years. I went home and considered my options. To me refusing all treatment was an easy decision as I knew I would be maimed. I would never have worked again and even if I had survived the op, I would have had a miserable life. I decided very early on that if I could not find alternative treatments that I would rather be dead.

Fortunately after my first cancer I had read and researched into cancer for more than 10 years and so was very well versed with potential alternative treatments - as there are many being used across the world. And so I had zero treatment for this second cancer. I attended what was supposed to be my pre-op and told the oncologist that I was discharging myself and he got very angry with me and lectured me for over an hour telling me that I was irresponsible and was letting my family down (I could not believe how angry he got). On 4 occasions he said "you do realise that without treatment you have less than 6 months to live". You are right that despite me repeatedly asking him to confirm this timescale in writing, I never managed to persuade him to do so (they never will) and so the letters are more wishy washy - but he definitely said it - I think out of anger and frustration. Perhaps he was just trying to frighten me - I don't know. I could not believe the way he treated me and disrespected my decision. But in away it was positive as it gave me an absolute determination to prove him wrong. I write to him every now and again to tell him I am still alive and well. I intend to drop him a line in April 2022 to say I got my 5 years!

I am definitely not in remission. We moved house in late 2017 and I am now under a completely different health trust and so asked to see a new oncologist and he went through scans/tests etc in April/May 2018 and said he could find absolutely no sign of cancer.

And interestingly, I have had no further non malignant growths in my mouth either since the change of diet.

Excellent outcome and thank you for sharing.

[WestYorksRoyal]

On a more happier note Bournmouth
Their lead has vanished and the board must be getting jittery........No promotion and FFP on its way to kick their door down.
Cmon Blackburn. Would rather them. Matey there has done a great job.

They genuinely thought the record was in reach

[Snowball]

Remember when this wasn't about cases or infections? How many footballers are in hospital seriously ill with Omicron currently? Get on with it ffs, there will always be another variant. You just have to accept that this is life now and work with it, you can't go into hiding every 6 months.

Ask someone who has had Covid, got over it and now has LONG Covid.

Even very mild, even asymptomatic Covid can produce Long Covid

I had Covid Mar 4-18 2021.

I used to walk ten miles every other day, run 3/4/5 on the day in between.

I STILL cannot run and my daily steps are between a quarter and a third of what they were at the start of 2021.

Long Covid is a horrible, serious, long, long-term illness. `many sufferers are finding they have what looks like being permanent disability

What are the docs saying? Have they given you any medication to take and or any assurances things will improve?

I don't think as high as 1% of Long Covid sufferers have been given serious treatment.

We went 6-9 months being called hypochondriacs.

Every test I have had says "nothing wrong"

I've had 3-4 ECGs one EEG, countless blood tests, eye tests, stress tests, forced-breathing tests (horrible), urine tests, stools looked at, cancer scenes, you name it. My blood O2 is 99% even when I'm breathless. It's a bonkers illness!

[Barney]

Right now, looking like a six-horse race to fill the three drop spots. Hull, Cardiff, us, Peterboro, Barnsley and Derby. Then maybe Bristol City and Birmingham being dragged into it.

So today's results of losses for Peterboro, Hull, Brum and Bristol could not have gone any better.

Boxing day is MASSIVE. Win that and the table will look a whole lot better. Then Fulham at home (probably no points) then Derby at home (another massive game).

Assuming of course that these games go ahead. Very interesting couple of weeks ahead.

[Stranded]

Break of league games until 15th Jan could possibly be the best thing to happen to us.

If injuries actually clear up especially after today's results.

[Mid Sussex Royal]

We won't be anywhere near the bottom three.

Barnsley and Derby haven't got enough points to pull it round and Peterborough are a poor side, they were very fortunate last week v millwall and lost today after leading to a side hopelessly out of form

if the game goes ahead on boxing day we will win there easily

[tidus_mi2]

We won't be anywhere near the bottom three.

Barnsley and Derby haven't got enough points to pull it round and Peterborough are a poor side, they were very fortunate last week v millwall and lost today after leading to a side hopelessly out of form

if the game goes ahead on boxing day we will win there easily

They do alright at home, I personally couldn't predict a win for us so boldly.

[Zip]

We won't be anywhere near the bottom three.

Barnsley and Derby haven't got enough points to pull it round and Peterborough are a poor side, they were very fortunate last week v millwall and lost today after leading to a side hopelessly out of form

if the game goes ahead on boxing day we will win there easily

They do alright at home, I personally couldn't predict a win for us so boldly.

Nor could I.