Scutterbucketzwinchester_royal Oh, and we've only heard one side of the story so convicting a character based on the words of an under-pressure manager who clearly has a problem with him is doubly moronic.
Fukking hell! Are you his boyfriend or something? He refused to travel. What more do you need to know?
Glad he managed to stay in the warmth tonight though. It is chilly out.
winchester_royal He didn't fail at Newcastle you crazy drunk baffoon
leonwinchester_royal He didn't fail at Newcastle you crazy drunk baffoon
a) absolutely - thats why they were so keen to keep him....
b) don't judge me by your own standards dickhead
winchester_royal Anyone who can see the POV of a marginalised player an f*ck off? Right.
No doubt you see yourself as a lone voice of rationality, but at the end of the day there are different view points and telling someone to f*ck off just because they hold a different one to yours is embarrassing in itself.
winchester_royal Manager's gone out on a limb'
F*ck off Tim, it's not like we dragged him off the street
Alan Partridge Guthrie has previous, it was a gamble signing from a manager that in all homesty didn't need gambles he needed proven Premiership pros. The ONLY thing that the squad has is its togetherness, the manager threatened that straight away by signing Guthrie. Having signed him its important to keep a person like this onside by making him feel important\wanted. The manager has done everything but that and has made this situation worse. Don't just think this happened the other day, this is weeks\months of incident, phoney injuries and more spin than a Shane Warne googly.
It doesn't excuse Guthrie's actions and there is now no way back for him but I really think McDermott has shown his own inexperience in this situation.
Ironically it might save Mcdermott, I think the majoirty will take his side and react the way Tim did instead of looking at an absolute mauling at a terrible Sunderland this is now the lead story.
Horsham Royalwinchester_royal Anyone who can see the POV of a marginalised player an f*ck off? Right.
No doubt you see yourself as a lone voice of rationality, but at the end of the day there are different view points and telling someone to f*ck off just because they hold a different one to yours is embarrassing in itself.winchester_royal Manager's gone out on a limb'
F*ck off Tim, it's not like we dragged him off the street
Fair cop ?
winchester_royalAlan Partridge Guthrie has previous, it was a gamble signing from a manager that in all homesty didn't need gambles he needed proven Premiership pros. The ONLY thing that the squad has is its togetherness, the manager threatened that straight away by signing Guthrie. Having signed him its important to keep a person like this onside by making him feel important\wanted. The manager has done everything but that and has made this situation worse. Don't just think this happened the other day, this is weeks\months of incident, phoney injuries and more spin than a Shane Warne googly.
It doesn't excuse Guthrie's actions and there is now no way back for him but I really think McDermott has shown his own inexperience in this situation.
Ironically it might save Mcdermott, I think the majoirty will take his side and react the way Tim did instead of looking at an absolute mauling at a terrible Sunderland this is now the lead story.
^This is the more reasoned version of what I was trying to say..
winchester_royalleonwinchester_royal He didn't fail at Newcastle you crazy drunk baffoon
a) absolutely - thats why they were so keen to keep him....
b) don't judge me by your own standards dickhead
a) they were
b) piss off twat-breath
Scutterbucketzwinchester_royalAlan Partridge Guthrie has previous, it was a gamble signing from a manager that in all homesty didn't need gambles he needed proven Premiership pros. The ONLY thing that the squad has is its togetherness, the manager threatened that straight away by signing Guthrie. Having signed him its important to keep a person like this onside by making him feel important\wanted. The manager has done everything but that and has made this situation worse. Don't just think this happened the other day, this is weeks\months of incident, phoney injuries and more spin than a Shane Warne googly.
It doesn't excuse Guthrie's actions and there is now no way back for him but I really think McDermott has shown his own inexperience in this situation.
Ironically it might save Mcdermott, I think the majoirty will take his side and react the way Tim did instead of looking at an absolute mauling at a terrible Sunderland this is now the lead story.
^This is the more reasoned version of what I was trying to say..
Well why didn't you just say that, silly?! Rather than go on about him sitting on a cold bench?
winchester_royalThe Royal We I don't post on here often. I won't post in response to the inevitable negativity that I will receive in response to this.
Anyone who supports a player who's done oxf*rd all for our club, ahead of a manger who:
(a) saved us from relegation to League One
(b) Took us to a Play Off final
(c) Got us promoted
......despite continuously having to sell his best players, can, as far as I'm concerned, oxf*rd off.
I've witnessed Brian making (in my opinion) countless poor decisions this year. But I've also witnessed (in my opinion) Brian making countless brilliant decisions and massively over achieving with an average Championship squad. What happens if you do this? You find yourself in the Premiership with a team that can't compete.
Of course I'm frustrated. Of course I'm annoyed. There's a part of me that wonders what might happen if we sacked Brian and got someone else in. But if we were to sack him now, after everything he has done since he came to the club over ten years ago, I'd feel thoroughly ashamed to be a Reading fan.
What manager could keep us up with this set of players? What manager could have got us promoted with this set of players? Brian.
Anyone who can see the POV of a marginalised player an f*ck off? Right.
No doubt you see yourself as a lone voice of rationality, but at the end of the day there are different view points and telling someone to f*ck off just because they hold a different one to yours is embarrassing in itself.
Alan Partridge He's a professional being handsomly payed and if fit should do everything that's asked of him. Be it being a sub, playing in a friendly, starting or handing out spazclappers.
The issue I have is I think McDermott has made this worse, also from Guthrie's point of view he's a premiership player, he's played the majority of his career in the PL for some big clubs, now he can't displace either Jay Tabb or mikele leigertwood? Again if the team was winning you can't grumble, but this team is devoid of ideas, experience and creativity. 3 things I'd say guthrie has more of both of them yet still the manager won't pick him.
I can understand him being proper pissed off, he's just reacted the complete wrong way and basically fcuked himself.
The Royal Wewinchester_royalThe Royal We I don't post on here often. I won't post in response to the inevitable negativity that I will receive in response to this.
Anyone who supports a player who's done oxf*rd all for our club, ahead of a manger who:
(a) saved us from relegation to League One
(b) Took us to a Play Off final
(c) Got us promoted
......despite continuously having to sell his best players, can, as far as I'm concerned, oxf*rd off.
I've witnessed Brian making (in my opinion) countless poor decisions this year. But I've also witnessed (in my opinion) Brian making countless brilliant decisions and massively over achieving with an average Championship squad. What happens if you do this? You find yourself in the Premiership with a team that can't compete.
Of course I'm frustrated. Of course I'm annoyed. There's a part of me that wonders what might happen if we sacked Brian and got someone else in. But if we were to sack him now, after everything he has done since he came to the club over ten years ago, I'd feel thoroughly ashamed to be a Reading fan.
What manager could keep us up with this set of players? What manager could have got us promoted with this set of players? Brian.
Anyone who can see the POV of a marginalised player an f*ck off? Right.
No doubt you see yourself as a lone voice of rationality, but at the end of the day there are different view points and telling someone to f*ck off just because they hold a different one to yours is embarrassing in itself.
You make a fair point - perhaps I seem a little righteous. Perhaps telling people who disagree with me to f*ck off was wrong. But personally I can't side with a player who has behaved in this way. I recall Burns and Pardew leaving Parky out their starting eleven. Don't ever recall him refusing to travel. Crude example, I know.
There are reasons for wanting McD to go. Some of which I understand and respect. But, IN MY OPINION, Gutherie's behaviour abhorrent and he is not worthy of a place in the starting 11 our great club.
2 world wars, 1 world cup Guthrie - F**K OFF
How anyone in their right mind can blame the manager in any way is beyond me. How many tens of players has Brian successfully managed without the slightest problem? If a player is a bad egg he's a bad egg and Danny guthrie is piece of s**t as a player and even worse as a person.
Most of us have to work very hard for our livings earning less in a year than he does in a week and its partly our hard earned cash that pays his wages. Hs behaviour is totally and utterly unacceptable given he is a professional paid a salary to do a job. Even a thick footballer must know that managers have a squad and if you're rubbish you'll be benched.
People are saying tsh we need to focus on our troubles and not on Guthrie but as far as I'm concerned Brian got us where we are through building an unprecedented team spirit and togetherness. That has fallen apart this season and that is clearly to me one of the biggest reasons for our poor form. And who do we think is the cause of it?
I'm sorry but there is no blame here for Brian, much as Brian-haters will love to use this against him. If a player is a twerp, he's a twerp and Danny Guthrie is a twerp.
Goodbye Danny.
SpaceCruiser Right, so many rumours and conjecture.
I know somebody has said something about an interview on the radio confirming such and such, but can somebody post up a summary that bullet-points the facts, backed up with links that we can click on to follow up and confirm those so-called rumours? Because I haven't really seen anything concrete to suggest that there is a changing room unrest.
ManchesterRoyalsSpaceCruiser Right, so many rumours and conjecture.
I know somebody has said something about an interview on the radio confirming such and such, but can somebody post up a summary that bullet-points the facts, backed up with links that we can click on to follow up and confirm those so-called rumours? Because I haven't really seen anything concrete to suggest that there is a changing room unrest.
On the interview BM said Guthrie was not up to travelling read it as u like
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