Pogrebnyak

Hendo · by **Hendo** » 28 Jul 2013 11:46

I hope there are so many people eating their words when he has banged in 15 goals by Christmas.

super darren caskey · by **super darren caskey** » 28 Jul 2013 12:25

Hendo I hope there are so many people eating their words when he has banged in 15 goals by Christmas.

I cant see that happenning tbh but i would love you to be right.Hes been mediocre at best so far for us.A couple of well taken goals but im sure we all expected more.I wont be disappointed if he goes but at the same time i wont complain if he stays because he could produce at championship level.

Time will tell i suppose

thirtyyarder · by **thirtyyarder** » 28 Jul 2013 13:19

Whilst I'm not his biggest fan, I can't see who we could get of his pedigree for the same money.

Reading4eva · by **Reading4eva** » 28 Jul 2013 19:44

15 goals!?!?! He can't get one against a League Two side who for large spells last season found themselves fighting relegation from the football league. How anyone thinks he is any good is beyond me. We could play Morecambe, Accrington, AFC Wimbledon or even Newport County and I would bet you he wouldn't score a goal.

The Russian World Cup forwards must feel fairly comfortable knowing this buffoon is behind them in the pecking order

blueroyals · by **blueroyals** » 28 Jul 2013 22:49

He could piss this league if he wanted to. Trouble is he doesn't want to, he wants to leave. Anybody who has seen him at any pre-season game will know what I mean.

SCIAG · by **SCIAG** » 28 Jul 2013 22:51

Reading4eva 15 goals!?!?! He can't get one against a League Two side who for large spells last season found themselves fighting relegation from the football league. How anyone thinks he is any good is beyond me. We could play Morecambe, Accrington, AFC Wimbledon or even Newport County and I would bet you he wouldn't score a goal.

A damning indictment of Chelsea from world renowned football expert Reading4eva.

Millsy · by **Millsy** » 28 Jul 2013 23:24

blueroyals He could piss this league if he wanted to. Trouble is he doesn't want to, he wants to leave. Anybody who has seen him at any pre-season game will know what I mean.

Probably true, but players soon realise that if they have the ability and they want to leave then really the only way out is to shine. Hopefully he'll soon see this, score tonnes of goals, them turn into a favourite and then not want to leave as we idolise him and march towards the Prem....

super darren caskey · by **super darren caskey** » 29 Jul 2013 08:02

blueroyals He could piss this league if he wanted to. Trouble is he doesn't want to, he wants to leave. Anybody who has seen him at any pre-season game will know what I mean.

I saw him in the first game in portugal and he just looked what we have been seeing since he arrived to be fair....Mediocre.You say about pissing the league(championship) but the bottom of the premiership is about the same standard as the championship and i dont remember Pog having a goal-a-thon against our relagation rivals

I hope you are right

moonwalklikebas · by **moonwalklikebas** » 29 Jul 2013 09:23

A better all round player than our little golden boy ALF.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses when watching ALF. Yes he is good goal scorer, no denying that. However he is majorly ineffective when he doesn't have the ball.

Give Pav credit, when he gets the ball he is great at holding the ball up and getting it out to the wingers.

One last sentence:

His header v Chelsea!

sandman · by **sandman** » 29 Jul 2013 09:30

moonwalklikebas A better all round player than our little golden boy ALF.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses when watching ALF. Yes he is good goal scorer, no denying that. However he is majorly ineffective when he doesn't have the ball.

Give Pav credit, when he gets the ball he is great at holding the ball up and getting it out to the wingers.

One last sentence:

His header v Chelsea!

Not sure citing a goal from the second game of last season is going to do much when he's had 30+ games since where he's failed to live up to it.

Sanguine · by **Sanguine** » 29 Jul 2013 09:33

The reality is somewhere in the middle, of course. His form certainly dipped towards the end of last season, but he did a ridiculous amount of thankless work up front on his own for much of it. I remember him getting absolutely battered by Sunderland, but his presence, holding the ball up, feeding the wingers, and his battering back, contributed to that victory.

Haven’t really caught up with much of pre-season, but I’m alarmed if we are going into this campaign with a 4-5-1.

A 4-3-3 is different altogether, but the impression I get is that our strikers are still too isolated.

For me, Pog and Alf would work very well up front together in a 4-4-2.

Ian Royal · by **Ian Royal** » 29 Jul 2013 21:40

Pog's main problem is that he's quite sluggish and does some stupid things, like fall over under pressure from a CB. A lot of people obviously see that and decide he's shit, but other than that he's top notch if you give him decent service. The question is, will he care enough and will he play smart enough to tear up the Championship. He certainly could.

It's not looking much like we'll be playing 2 up though, which I thought would get the best out of ALF and Pog, though would leave us light on strikers and stuck with the same sort of system we're looking to move away from.

URZZZZZ · by **URZZZZZ** » 29 Jul 2013 22:13

sandman
moonwalklikebas A better all round player than our little golden boy ALF.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses when watching ALF. Yes he is good goal scorer, no denying that. However he is majorly ineffective when he doesn't have the ball.

Give Pav credit, when he gets the ball he is great at holding the ball up and getting it out to the wingers.

One last sentence:

His header v Chelsea!

Not sure citing a goal from the second game of last season is going to do much when he's had 30+ games since where he's failed to live up to it.

30+ games with no service from midfield, amazing how people don't get it

WestRoyal · by **WestRoyal** » 29 Jul 2013 22:33

URZZZZZ
sandman
moonwalklikebas A better all round player than our little golden boy ALF.

People need to take off the rose tinted glasses when watching ALF. Yes he is good goal scorer, no denying that. However he is majorly ineffective when he doesn't have the ball.

Give Pav credit, when he gets the ball he is great at holding the ball up and getting it out to the wingers.

One last sentence:

His header v Chelsea!

Not sure citing a goal from the second game of last season is going to do much when he's had 30+ games since where he's failed to live up to it.

30+ games with no service from midfield, amazing how people don't get it

I will back pog to do well this coming season and will support and not slate him whilst hes a reading player but thats a weak excuse.
A strikers movement and anticipation let alone finishing is almost as important as the ball in. Now I know the crosses were not Beckham esq but they were put into the danger area most of the time at least. If you had a lambert working off the same service he would of had quite a few more goals last season. I'm sure the players didn't decide to only give Alfie service when ever he came on.

His confidence was shot basically, so instead of finishing difficult chances like the header v chelsea he's missing easy ones against Bristol rovers. If he is staying he needs a good start in order to get it back and if he does I believe he will do well

Esteban · by **Esteban** » 30 Jul 2013 20:53

Pogrebnyak is key to our early season form. Either we need to move him on quickly, so we can get in another striker, or he needs to step up. If we do neither, we'll stutter.

SCIAG · by **SCIAG** » 30 Jul 2013 21:15

Ian Royal It's not looking much like we'll be playing 2 up though, which I thought would get the best out of ALF and Pog, though would leave us light on strikers and stuck with the same sort of system we're looking to move away from.

Pog and Alf are both goalscorers before all else. IMO with a really successful 4-4-2 you need strikers who have strengths other than finishing. For example, my favourite strike partnership was Kitson-Doyle, where Kitson could come a bit deeper and help develop attacks, and Doyle could run the channels and link up with the wingers.

The Real Sandhurst Royal · by **The Real Sandhurst Royal** » 31 Jul 2013 06:58

Hendo wrote: I hope there are so many people eating their words when he has banged in 15 goals by Christmas.

Is that for his new club as he will be off loaded before the transfer window closes?

Hendo · by **Hendo** » 31 Jul 2013 10:12

The Real Sandhurst Royal
Hendo wrote: I hope there are so many people eating their words when he has banged in 15 goals by Christmas.

Is that for his new club as he will be off loaded before the transfer window closes?

I'm yet to see any real concrete evidence that this will happen. So as far as I'm concerned he is a reading player and will remain one for the foreseeable future. I do like how everyone seems to know that he is 100% going yet no one seems to know where... And don't say Russia as that's not in anyway specific or clever.

blueroyals · by **blueroyals** » 31 Jul 2013 10:39

We are all 100% sure he's going because he's 100% sure that he doesn't want to be here any more.

Hendo · by **Hendo** » 31 Jul 2013 13:09

blueroyals We are all 100% sure he's going because he's 100% sure that he doesn't want to be here any more.

And your 100% on this how exactly? I've not see any quotes saying "I don't want to play for reading anymore"

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