The truth about Royston...

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Norfolk Royal » 08 May 2014 12:12

Pressure? Come off it.

Would be nice if he put in a few decent performances for his enormous wage.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 12:35

Maybe he would have if the message wasn't "f/ck off, Royston"

Personally I think we'd have been better off giving the guy a chance to flourish and put him in the window, rather than telling him to sod off and leaving him out in the cold.

Who is going to want him now?

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by floyd__streete » 08 May 2014 12:40

What a monumental disaster of a signing this was :lol:

He has been like a more expensive, less talented Mass Sarr. And you all creamed your pants when we signed him, in fact up until a few weeks ago many of you were still cooing over his stepovers :lol:

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by maffff » 08 May 2014 12:40

floyd__streete What a monumental disaster of a signing this was :lol:

He has been like a more expensive, less talented Mass Sarr. And you all creamed your pants when we signed him, in fact up until a few weeks ago many of you were still cooing over his stepovers :lol:


If it weren't for Pearce's stepover masterclass we still would be.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Maguire » 08 May 2014 12:51

Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 12:58

Maguire Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


I've no real evidence either way but I can't help but think the way the club has handled him as a player has amplified these issues.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Pseud O'Nym » 08 May 2014 13:31

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Maguire Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


I've no real evidence either way but I can't help but think the way the club has handled him as a player has amplified these issues.


Like Real Madrid and Everton?

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Hoop Blah » 08 May 2014 13:38

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Maguire Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


I've no real evidence either way but I can't help but think the way the club has handled him as a player has amplified these issues.


I agree with that. He's obviously a loose cannon but very talented and so not easy to manage but, like McDermott and Guthrie previously, there's a massive dependency on the manager to man-manage these players to get the best from them.

The players also share the responsibility of course, but I do think we should've seen more of him when we were so poor at creating chances for most of the season.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by maffff » 08 May 2014 13:56

anyone care to wager that IF Drenthe is still with us come 01 September he will be a first team regular and a firm fans favourite come this time next year?


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 13:57

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Maguire Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


I've no real evidence either way but I can't help but think the way the club has handled him as a player has amplified these issues.


Like Real Madrid and Everton?


No, Reading.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by maffff » 08 May 2014 13:59

And by firm fans favourite I mean in player of the season runnings. We aren't canvassing the opinions of FLOLoyd of liamomygodthatguyisfuckingtedious.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royalclapper » 08 May 2014 14:13

He's one of these characters who annoys the hell out of folks because he undoubtedly has talent but the application of which is questionable to say the least.

Problem is, The Championship is as much about graft and staying power as it is creative flair. Not sure if he's the right type of bloke to be playing for a largely conservative type club like Reading in the League we're currently in and in the situation that has become of it. He's obviously got the mindset of playing for a glitzy show off type team yet probably isn't going to play for one again in his career.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by kwik-silva » 08 May 2014 14:13

It depends, I think the club do need to handle him better and not just try and flog him. Doesn't exactly inspire him to play well for us. If he does apply himself then he obviously has the quality and he'd be superb, as long as he manages to actually learn how to kick a football to where he wants it to go.

Disagree that he didn't have the commitment, a load of the time he looked like the only one who could be bothered, but it was the quality of the final ball or the final shot that always let him down. It was getting ridiculous.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Maguire » 08 May 2014 14:19

kwik-silva Disagree that he didn't have the commitment, a load of the time he looked like the only one who could be bothered


It's not just about match day though, is it? He clearly didn't get himself into good enough shape to play a full season of Championship football.

Blaming RFC for that is a bit wide of the mark in my mind, but then again I don't attend training.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by under the tin » 08 May 2014 14:36

Maguire Lazy, immature, waste of space who clearly isn't prepared to put the kind of work in that it takes to make it as a professional sportsman.

Absolute disaster of a signing, and heaven knows how much it's cost the club to have him on the books.


This.

As the old saying goes, there are two sides to every story.
The club has chosen not put out on instagram the reasons behind his non-selection.
His interpretation is that the club had a problem with the size of his wages.
It is equally plausible that the club baulked at paying those wages because they didn't feel that he was actually earning them.

Surrounded by nutritionists, physio's, sports scientists and the like, with state of the art gym and training facilities, no other distractions like a job that we mere mortals have to contend with, yet this so-called professional sportsman has never got fully fit in what, 9 months?

Given his pedigree, this man should have torn the Championship a new @rsehole.

There is a reason why Madrid got shot of him after spending all that money bringing him in.
Everton soon realised why as well.
Talent without application is useless.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by mr_number » 08 May 2014 14:44

I'm really amazed that people are still backing him at this stage. I'd prefer to pay off his contract and tell him to fvck off than have him hanging around and doubling the club's spend on food for the players next season as well

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Ouroboros » 08 May 2014 15:12

under the tin There is a reason why Madrid got shot of him after spending all that money bringing him in.


I thought the reason was that he wasn't good enough for Real Madrid.

Doesn't seem all that relevant to our situation.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by under the tin » 08 May 2014 15:47

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under the tin There is a reason why Madrid got shot of him after spending all that money bringing him in.


I thought the reason was that he wasn't good enough for Real Madrid.

Doesn't seem all that relevant to our situation.


Seeing as Real shelled 14 million euros out for him, then someone there obviously thought he might be good enough.
That's by the bye.
Take a few minutes to read the Wiki stuff on him.
Reading is not the only club where there have been "issues". That's the relevance to our situation. He has form.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Lady » 08 May 2014 16:42

Is it possible to sack a player if they are not adhering to club rules or things and if a club did sack a player - is it like any other sacking, i.e. they won't get any money?

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Extended-Phenotype » 08 May 2014 16:45

Royal Lady Is it possible to sack a player if they are not adhering to club rules or things and if a club did sack a player - is it like any other sacking, i.e. they won't get any money?


Contractors aren't employees, so they aren't governed under applicable labor law. However, contractors do work under a defined work contract, so if the contractor's work is substandard or he fails to live up to his agreed-upon work product, then the contracting party may elect to end the work agreement.

But it's difficult, in both the football and real world.

EDIT: I think it has to be in the contract that the contract can be terminated according to defined terms.

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