NO LONGER A RUMOUR - Doyle to Wolves for £6.5m

[West Stand Man]

Maybe Santa Cruz wanted to go?

Given recent history there is no reason to think we'll let Doyle go for less than his release clause.

As a matter of interest, how close to the end of his contract is Santa Cruz. Maybe that would indicate why his release clause is less significant? Doyle is still very early into his new contract and there is no obvious reason why RFC would accept a bid below the agreed level.

[Vision]

Maybe Santa Cruz wanted to go?

Given recent history there is no reason to think we'll let Doyle go for less than his release clause.

As a matter of interest, how close to the end of his contract is Santa Cruz. Maybe that would indicate why his release clause is less significant? Doyle is still very early into his new contract and there is no obvious reason why RFC would accept a bid below the agreed level.

To be fair I can think of around 25k reasons a week why they wouldn't necessarily rule it out completely.

Making comparisons with different players at other clubs with different circumstances/agendas is a bit pointless really. FWIW I don't think it will happen but it's by no means a sure fire certainty that we wouldn't even consider it.

[Thaumagurist*]

I wouldn't at all, just because that is his release clause it doesn't mean they won't take less.

Do get real. Why on earth would a club let their top striker go for less that the agreed release value? The only possible reason I can imagine is to reduce the wage bill - but they have only just negotiated his contract this year and so it is reasonable to assume that it was affordable.

roque santa cruz.

20 million release clause goes for 18million.

Only reason i can see is that the player wants to leave so an offer close to his clause would be hard to turn down.

That surely is a completely different scenario. Consider the percentage. £2m off £20m is small (about 1/10th of the asking price) compared to £2.5m off £6.5m (about a third of the asking price). Would we want to lose that much?

[Vision]

Does anyone actually know that Doyle's release clause is £6.5m?

[gazzer, loyal royal]

Does anyone actually know that Doyle's release clause is £6.5m?

yes that is correct

[Thaumagurist*]

Does anyone actually know that Doyle's release clause is £6.5m?

yes that is correct

Any proof to back up your claim? And don't say you have a source at the club.

[Plymouth_Royal]

Do get real. Why on earth would a club let their top striker go for less that the agreed release value? The only possible reason I can imagine is to reduce the wage bill - but they have only just negotiated his contract this year and so it is reasonable to assume that it was affordable.

roque santa cruz.

20 million release clause goes for 18million.

Only reason i can see is that the player wants to leave so an offer close to his clause would be hard to turn down.

That surely is a completely different scenario. Consider the percentage. £2m off £20m is small (about 1/10th of the asking price) compared to £2.5m off £6.5m (about a third of the asking price). Would we want to lose that much?

I think what others and myself are trying to point out is that a bid slightly less than 6.5million and if the player has a desire to leave as well as a bad run of form, then reading would be more inclined to accept. The Roque santa cruz example was just there to show you that it does happen. He had a desire to leave and i personally think allardyce may have thought no-one would pay the 20 million. It wouldnt surprise me if s.hunt goes for less than his realease clause too. He's had a horrible second half of the season, he's 29, he's shite and having player who doesnt want to be there cant be good for morale.

[Thaumagurist*]

£2.5m off the asking price is not slightly less, it is a lot more less than!!

[Dirk Gently]

Do get real. Why on earth would a club let their top striker go for less that the agreed release value? The only possible reason I can imagine is to reduce the wage bill - but they have only just negotiated his contract this year and so it is reasonable to assume that it was affordable.

roque santa cruz.

20 million release clause goes for 18million.

Only reason i can see is that the player wants to leave so an offer close to his clause would be hard to turn down.

That surely is a completely different scenario. Consider the percentage. £2m off £20m is small (about 1/10th of the asking price) compared to £2.5m off £6.5m (about a third of the asking price). Would we want to lose that much?

There's also the money we pay him though - assuming he's on £20k a week that's a £1M a year saving to be made. Of course, a replacement would still need to be paid but not as much.

But the point is that's it's not just transfer fees to consider. Salary and length of financial commitment are just as important in the decision-making process.

[Royal Lady]

If a player wants to go, there's no point hanging out for a price if no-one is offering anywhere near that amount. I'd let SHunt go for nothing to be perfectly honest. Doyle is different though, if he doesn't want to leave, then we should do all we can to hang on to him and if that includes inflating his price a bit to put off other bidders, then so be it.

[Dirk Gently]

If a player wants to go, there's no point hanging out for a price if no-one is offering anywhere near that amount. I'd let SHunt go for nothing to be perfectly honest. Doyle is different though, if he doesn't want to leave, then we should do all we can to hang on to him and if that includes inflating his price a bit to put off other bidders, then so be it.

Just playing devil's advocate on this, should we have let Lita leave in January on a free transfer?

History suggests we certainly should have done, as he contributed nothing (except dressing room disharmony!) and we would have saved 6 months' worth of wages - but that's only in hindsight. Difficult to make that decision in January....

[TFF]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/06/2 ... cord-move/

Wolves have held talks with Reading striker Kevin Doyle with a view to signing the £6.5million-rated striker.

The 25-year-old, who has a release clause in his contract for that figure, has been shown around Compton Park by Molineux officials.

Signing Doyle would mean Wolves doubling their record outlay for a player, after the £3million previously spent on Kenny Miller and Ade Akinbiyi.

But the indications are that the Premier League new-boys are ready to spend heavily on the right players, to give the club the best possible chance of surviving their first season in the Premier League.

A Doyle arrival would follow the captures of Nenad Milijas and Doyle’s former Reading team-mate Marcus Hahnemann.

Wolves boss Mick McCarthy has long been an admirer of the Republic of Ireland international - who crucially has the Premier League experience the manager craves - having scored 13 goals in Reading’s first season in the top flight in 2006/07.

Doyle, who has scored 55 goals in 154 League games for Reading, only signed an extension to his contract last November, taking him through to June 2011.

But after the Royals failed to win promotion at the first attempt, Premier League clubs have been alerted and Wolves have tried to steal a march on their rivals.

Indeed, signing Doyle would represent something a coup for Wolves as a newly-promoted club.

The former Cork forward was expected to attract a move to an established top flight club, with Everton and Villa linked with the highly-rated player.

Doyle is a familiar face to Wolves players, as he has been in the Irish squad with Wolves stars Andy Keogh and Kevin Foley, and is seen as the main striker for his country after former Molineux golden boy Robbie Keane.

The 25-year-old scored 18 goals last season, but only two in the second half of the season as Reading’s promotion challenge faded.

But the signs are that he would welcome a fresh challenge following the departure of Steve Coppell as Reading boss at the end of the season, after they were beaten in the play-off semi-finals by eventual winners Burnley.

[Thaumagurist*]

Wolves have held talks with Reading striker Kevin Doyle with a view to signing the £6.5million-rated striker.

That surely is tapping up? Surely we wouldn't give them permission to talk to him without having had a bid from them?

[Dirk Gently]

Wolves have held talks with Reading striker Kevin Doyle with a view to signing the £6.5million-rated striker.

That surely is tapping up? Surely we wouldn't give them permission to talk to him without having had a bid from them?

Surely it just shows that we have given permisson?

[IMAMATEOFJOVSKY]

Guess we've had a bid for him then ! - but you know the Reading way of doing things - they say nothing until its a done deal !!

[Mr Angry]

Clearly there is genuine substance to this story with that report; in my experience journos don't make up that level of detail (being shown around the ground etc) - they clearly have a source at WWFC who has given them this info. If it was made up I would have expected to see more conjecture (eg: "i understand that..." or "It is thought that....."). This has legs.

So does it mean Doyle will definately go to Wolves?

No.

Does it mean that Doyle is definately going to leave us?

99% definately.

The reality of failing to get promoted and/or Coppell leaving now becomes clearer.

[Dirk Gently]

Clearly there is genuine substance to this story with that report; in my experience journos don't make up that level of detail (being shown around the ground etc) - they clearly have a source at WWFC who has given them this info. If it was made up I would have expected to see more conjecture (eg: "i understand that..." or "It is thought that....."). This has legs.

So does it mean Doyle will definately go to Wolves?

No.

Does it mean that Doyle is definately going to leave us?

99% definately.

The reality of failing to get promoted and/or Coppell leaving now becomes clearer.

I don't think that it's that great a surprise, though, and personally I think it's the best thing for us and for Doyle.

He's obviously so jaded and needs a change of scenery and a new challenge - I've been in similar positions several times in my career and the best thing then for everything is to move out of the comfort zone and move on to somewhere new where you can be successful.

Good luck, Kevin, and thanks for everything!

[TFF]

Good luck, Kevin, and thanks for everything!

'greed.

And not least, the 98.8% margin.

[Southbank Old Boy]

If a player wants to go, there's no point hanging out for a price if no-one is offering anywhere near that amount. I'd let SHunt go for nothing to be perfectly honest. Doyle is different though, if he doesn't want to leave, then we should do all we can to hang on to him and if that includes inflating his price a bit to put off other bidders, then so be it.

Just playing devil's advocate on this, should we have let Lita leave in January on a free transfer?

History suggests we certainly should have done, as he contributed nothing (except dressing room disharmony!) and we would have saved 6 months' worth of wages - but that's only in hindsight. Difficult to make that decision in January....

Definately should have done

Think most could see that at the time as well to be honest. The club wanted to get rid of him, thats why we accepted the Sheff U bid

A player under contract doesnt have to do what the club wants though, and I guess that Lita knew he had very good chances of getting a better, more lucrative, deal by holding out and waiting for the summer when clubs are better placed to move players about

A free from Reading would have worked for me, but it doesnt mean the clubs wanting him could afford to make the offers they can now in the summer

As for Doyle, he has to go this summer for his own good. Its a real shame as he has been a great player for us but another year in the Championship might take him off Premiership clubs radars and for his chances of getting back to the top flight he probably has to go now

[maf82]

blackburn rovers also want him,so i cant see him going to wolves