Coppell - Can He Save Us???

[Dorset-Knob]

Personally I regret that he ever felt the need to leave, but he'd be on a hiding to nothing if he came back! New blood with proven track record at this level and or beyond, (assuming BR is still unable to turn it around by Christmas)

We surely have more going for us than the Tangerines, or the rock and roll, don't we?

[Ian Herring]

I still think Jimmy Melia could do a good job. Anyone with white PVC shoes has to have something about him as a football manager.

(If he is still alive, of course.)

If you're looking for us to improve tactically, i'm not sure the last point is relevent.

Well. It's either him or Paul Calf.

[Y21]

Coppell? oxf*rd it, I'd even take Pardew back at the moment.

[Dirk Gently]

Absolutely, categorically, not!

[Archie's penalty]

Not now, maybe in two years.

Got to give Rodgers a chance madames et monsieurs...

[Uke]

Really not the man to come back and take us forward.

Would be amazingly short term to sack Rodgers, even more so to bring Coppell back.

We probably need some short term fixing to stop the leaks until Spring or when we can fix things in safety.

Venables @ Middlesborough being the kind of fix we need. He came in in December, if we applied that type of fix now then Buck won't have reached the level of hatred that Robson had reached with the Boro fans, so would have a chance to stay on afterwards.

[winchester_royal]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

[winchester_royal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! I can only laugh at you.
You would ignore all Coppell's previous experience then?
FA Cup replay against United with Palace, unearthing the gem Ian Wright, and generally being a class act means nothing to you?

He has overachieved with every single club he has been at, except of course his tragic venture with Man C.

You profile says you are 17, if true it would explain a lot.

LOL. You complain when people devalue your opinions because where you live, and then pick on mine becuae of my age. Hipocrite....

Anyway if you look at his time at Palace it was very similar to his time here. Did well for a couple of seasons but struggled as soon as his team started to break up and was unable to arrest the slide. When he went back there for 2nd and 3rd spells this remained the case.

At Brentford he failed to achieve promotion, and at Brighton he jumped ship before he could actually achieve anything.

And he left us exactly how he found us. A team that was fighting for the play-off fringes.

[adamh4608]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

what a lot of bull

[winchester_royal]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

what a lot of bull

The fact that the last 3 clubs he's managed are Brighton, Brentford and us, just serve to support my claim.

Love the guy, but he's definitely not the answer for us ATM.

[adamh4608]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

what a lot of bull

The fact that the last 3 clubs he's managed are Brighton, Brentford and us, just serve to support my claim.

Love the guy, but he's definitely not the answer for us ATM.

and roger,s is better ?

coppell was one of the best Championship managers you could want,
but the thing he lack,s was Ruthlessness that would have made him a top prem boss.
given the choice i would welcome back tomorrow.

[CMRoyal]

HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! I can only laugh at you.
You would ignore all Coppell's previous experience then?
FA Cup replay against United with Palace, unearthing the gem Ian Wright, and generally being a class act means nothing to you?

He has overachieved with every single club he has been at, except of course his tragic venture with Man C.

You profile says you are 17, if true it would explain a lot.

LOL. You complain when people devalue your opinions because where you live, and then pick on mine becuae of my age. Hipocrite....

Anyway if you look at his time at Palace it was very similar to his time here. Did well for a couple of seasons but struggled as soon as his team started to break up and was unable to arrest the slide. When he went back there for 2nd and 3rd spells this remained the case.

Actually, SC's second spell with Palace was as director of football. But in his second spell as manager, he gained promotion again. He was D of F when they got relegated. So that's two promotions, one relegation as manager and one as D of F, a Cup Final, their highest ever league placing, six seasons in the top flight and their first ever trophy win (albeit only a very minor trophy). Not bad for an average manager. And he proved he could get them promoted a second time with a new set of players. He could perhaps do that with Reading too, but we'd probably have to be ruthless and replace him as soon as we reached the top tier.

[Royalee]

Spot on winchester.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

Sadly the play-off fringe team has been replaced by a relegation struggle, ATM, jeez it really needs to turn around soon.

[winchester_royal]

Actually, SC's second spell with Palace was as director of football. But in his second spell as manager, he gained promotion again. He was D of F when they got relegated. So that's two promotions, one relegation as manager and one as D of F, a Cup Final, their highest ever league placing, six seasons in the top flight and their first ever trophy win (albeit only a very minor trophy). Not bad for an average manager. And he proved he could get them promoted a second time with a new set of players. He could perhaps do that with Reading too, but we'd probably have to be ruthless and replace him as soon as we reached the top tier.

I think you're missing my point. SC has always shown when the going get's tough, he doesn't get going. Not the man for us.

[brendywendy]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

i respect your right to hold contrary opinions but
oxf*rd off.


you dont get lucky for a 46 game season IMO
and then follow it up by being lucky again for the 40 game season in the top flight next year.


you may say it was the players
but i say that coppells policy of giving them the responsibility for their performances brought that out of them

[winchester_royal]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

i respect your right to hold contrary opinions but
oxf*rd off.


you dont get lucky for a 46 game season IMO
and then follow it up by being lucky again for the 40 game season in the top flight next year.
you may say it was the players
but i say that coppells policy of giving them the responsibility for their performances brought that out of them

2 words.......Roy Keane.

Look, I'm not doubting Coppell's achievements during his time here, but in his final two years he was very poor. Not replacing Sidwell was the first mistake, then continuing to play a Oster/Harper/Gunnar/Hunt midfield when it was clearly not anywhere near good enough for the Prem, failing to invest in the squad during Jan 08, failing to arrest the failings of our attack in the second half of that season, once again failing to invest significantly in the squad last season, his never ending loyalty to his favourites, etc...

Not to mention some of the awful management that took place before 05/06, such as his obsession with players such as Newman, Hughes, and Brooker. The signings of Ferdinand, Keown, Goater and Murray. We seem to forget that before the 106 season started a large number of RFC fans were very disillusioneed with SC, and the fact that he struck gold with that team, and that there were hardly wny injuries to his key players, was IMO very lucky.

As I said before, the man will and should always be an RFC legend, but that doesn't make him a great manager, and nor does it mean he'd be a saviour now.

[adamh4608]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

i respect your right to hold contrary opinions but
oxf*rd off.


you dont get lucky for a 46 game season IMO
and then follow it up by being lucky again for the 40 game season in the top flight next year.
you may say it was the players
but i say that coppells policy of giving them the responsibility for their performances brought that out of them

spot on
2 words.......Roy Keane.

Look, I'm not doubting Coppell's achievements during his time here, but in his final two years he was very poor. Not replacing Sidwell was the first mistake, then continuing to play a Oster/Harper/Gunnar/Hunt midfield when it was clearly not anywhere near good enough for the Prem, failing to invest in the squad during Jan 08, failing to arrest the failings of our attack in the second half of that season, once again failing to invest significantly in the squad last season, his never ending loyalty to his favourites, etc...

Not to mention some of the awful management that took place before 05/06, such as his obsession with players such as Newman, Hughes, and Brooker. The signings of Ferdinand, Keown, Goater and Murray. We seem to forget that before the 106 season started a large number of RFC fans were very disillusioneed with SC, and the fact that he struck gold with that team, and that there were hardly wny injuries to his key players, was IMO very lucky.

As I said before, the man will and should always be an RFC legend, but that doesn't make him a great manager, and nor does it mean he'd be a saviour now.

[CMRoyal]

Look, I'm not doubting Coppell's achievements during his time here, but

...when he did badly he was poor and when he did well, he was "very lucky". That seems to be what you are saying. I do get your point, but I think you're over-spinning it somewhat.

[Tilehurst Mike]

Average manager who got lucky with the 05/06 team, and was then thoroughly found out once that team started to break up.

Royals legend, but nothing special.

I sometimes wonder what planet you are on!! Coppell took the team to the Premiership and moulded a record breaking team. His desmise was no fault of his own but lack of realistic support for REALISTIC funds from the Board. At least he knew what team and tactics he was going to employ aided by the excellent Kevin Dillon and wally Downes.

Unfortunately the tactics, results and motivation from Rodgers and the 'hidden' Dean Austin leave a lot to be desired!!