Back from the game....... I really hate geordies

[Sun Tzu]

1) what a ridiculous point. I'm not exactly suggesting we sack all our players and play the academy team

2) who said anything about 2 games in a week? I didn't. Shit point.

3) he's a specialist in his position, where he plays very rarely and is certainly not higher than 4th choice.

4) you may disagree, I feel there are strong similarities. Both are midfielders repeatedly played out of position, not ideal to those positions often but perform to a good standard there when called upon.

We have finite resources, we have too many midfielders, he is a bit part player and his contract is up. Thanks and Good bye for me.

So you've really got no case at all - you just don't like him for some obscure reason !

It's a brave man who adopts an extreme position with only some poorly thought out reasoning behind it. I salute your bravery !

[brendywendy]

Bryn proved last night that he's worth the money for as long as he wants to be here.

Wherever he's asked to play, whoever it's against he performs.

He was exemplary last night. 100% commitment, some moments of great skill and nice little moment in the first half where he proved those who say he lacks pace wrong by outsprinting a Geordie, winning the ball then playing a delicate pass out of trouble.

He's a gem and whilst I respect the opinion of others I also reserve the right to laugh heartily at the idea that NOT having him around next season would be a good thing in any way.

He's a legend, a great pro and long may he stick two fingers in the direction of those who write him off....

I have never been a Bryn fan. However this season he has been terrific. There was one passage of play in the second-half when he showed superb determination to win the ball back. He deserves a new contract. He's a very good pro.

i see no difference bwteen this season, and any other since he arrived

[Ian Royal]

Bryn proved last night that he's worth the money for as long as he wants to be here.

Wherever he's asked to play, whoever it's against he performs.

He was exemplary last night. 100% commitment, some moments of great skill and nice little moment in the first half where he proved those who say he lacks pace wrong by outsprinting a Geordie, winning the ball then playing a delicate pass out of trouble.

He's a gem and whilst I respect the opinion of others I also reserve the right to laugh heartily at the idea that NOT having him around next season would be a good thing in any way.

He's a legend, a great pro and long may he stick two fingers in the direction of those who write him off....

I have never been a Bryn fan. However this season he has been terrific. There was one passage of play in the second-half when he showed superb determination to win the ball back. He deserves a new contract. He's a very good pro.

Was that the one where he then punted a crossfield ball straight to their full back?

[brendywendy]

god forbid that any of our players ever give the ball away in a game eh

[Ian Royal]

Just wondering whether it was that time, or another one.

[PEARCEY]

Just wondering whether it was that time, or another one.

No he didn't give the ball away and won a warm round of applause.

Re Brendy I have to disagree. There were times in our second season in the Premiership where Bryn really struggled in central midfield. He wasn't the only one but he did run out of gas in the second-half of matches.
He is definitely worth a new contract based on his performances this season though which is what it should be about.

[Hoop Blah]

Just a couple of points.

I thought Newcastle were pretty good, and showed up some of our weaknesses that need to be addressed for a decent shot at the play offs/promotion next season.

I thought Sigurdsson really struggled to get into the game, and it was probably his least impressive display since McDermott took over. No harm in that when you look at the quality of the opposition.

Pearce did alright, as did Gunnarsson. Plenty of room for improvement but that Newcastle didn't create that much proves that they didn't do badly.

Finally, for those being critical of Pearce for his role in both goals whilst praising Gunnarsson, I think you should take a look at the goals again and reasses Gunnarssons role in them. He was equally culpable for the first, if not more so, and I think he might've done better with the second too.

If your going to slag off Pearce, at least be objective and realise Gunnarsson wasn't blameless instead of praising him to the rafters.

[PEARCEY]

Just a couple of points.

I thought Newcastle were pretty good, and showed up some of our weaknesses that need to be addressed for a decent shot at the play offs/promotion next season.

I thought Sigurdsson really struggled to get into the game, and it was probably his least impressive display since McDermott took over. No harm in that when you look at the quality of the opposition.

Pearce did alright, as did Gunnarsson. Plenty of room for improvement but that Newcastle didn't create that much proves that they didn't do badly.

Finally, for those being critical of Pearce for his role in both goals whilst praising Gunnarsson, I think you should take a look at the goals again and reasses Gunnarssons role in them. He was equally culpable for the first, if not more so, and I think he might've done better with the second too.

If your going to slag off Pearce, at least be objective and realise Gunnarsson wasn't blameless instead of praising him to the rafters.

Their first goal was route 1 stuff and both central defenders could have done better. The second goal waqs a poor team goal to concede with our midfielders nowhere and Bertrand ending up in no mans land unsure whether to close down the player carrying the ball towards the penalty box or mark Routledge. He ended up doing neither.

On another day Newcastle could have scored 4 or 5 so they created more than enough.

[SpaceCruiser]

Had to restrain myself from the quiet seats in joining in with the Argy bashing, I fcuking hate them. It's in the blood of any Englishman to hate Argies and Germans, end of.

And the French, don't forget.

[Hoop Blah]

Their first goal was route 1 stuff and both central defenders could have done better. The second goal waqs a poor team goal to concede with our midfielders nowhere and Bertrand ending up in no mans land unsure whether to close down the player carrying the ball towards the penalty box or mark Routledge. He ended up doing neither.

On another day Newcastle could have scored 4 or 5 so they created more than enough.

They could've created more yes, but didn't (I don't think they got out of 3rd gear to be honest) so I think they did OK at the back. Bertrand actually defended the back post quite well too, not that he's got any credit for that on here. My point was less about them being great and more about the blaming of Pearce whilst Gunnarsson was being hailed the battle scarred hero.

[PEARCEY]

Their first goal was route 1 stuff and both central defenders could have done better. The second goal waqs a poor team goal to concede with our midfielders nowhere and Bertrand ending up in no mans land unsure whether to close down the player carrying the ball towards the penalty box or mark Routledge. He ended up doing neither.

On another day Newcastle could have scored 4 or 5 so they created more than enough.

They could've created more yes, but didn't (I don't think they got out of 3rd gear to be honest) so I think they did OK at the back. Bertrand actually defended the back post quite well too, not that he's got any credit for that on here. My point was less about them being great and more about the blaming of Pearce whilst Gunnarsson was being hailed the battle scarred hero.

I think a lot of posters thought Pearce did ok (first goal apart). It wasn't ideal for Pearce and Bryn to be playing alongside each other. Have they ever played together as centre-halves? Not sure they have. So they didn't have time to gel.
As a team we didn't make Newcastle work hard enough for their goals though so Pearce alone should not be crucified thats for sure. I don't think most posters have hammered him tbf.

[Ian Royal]

Having now watched the highlights I think Gunnarsson was at least partially at fault for virtually all their goals / clear chances.

Goal one way to weak and falls over letting Ameobi flick the ball on. Don't think Pearce does anything wrong, he's just not quite quick enough to get a block in. Perhaps Fed could have done better to save across him.

Goal two, Pearce or Bertrand needs to go to the man with the ball, neither do. Gunnarsson is left marking space between their two players with Griffin slow to get to the man on the back post and it's an unchallenged shot Gunnarsson gets to just watch.

Gunnarsson then falls over for no reason other than tripping himself up on another break and is lucky Routledge goes for the shot not the cross.

Finally Gunnarsson is again left marking space and no where near his man when they came inches from scoring a third (not on the highlights).

Personally I think all that rather outweights picking a couple of balls off people's toes and lifting it over their heads a couple of times.

[floyd__streete]

Having now watched the highlights I think Gunnarsson was at least partially at fault for virtually all their goals / clear chances.

Goal one way to weak and falls over letting Ameobi flick the ball on. Don't think Pearce does anything wrong, he's just not quite quick enough to get a block in. Perhaps Fed could have done better to save across him.

Sorry Ian old son, but can't agree. Having seen it again myself there is a case for a foul against Gunnarsson, Ameobi has his arm across him. The ball drops for Nolan back to goal and he still manages to totally rinse dear old flat-footed Pearcey and then the goalkeeping from Federici is absolutely rankerous. In terms of fault for the goal, A Fed -> Pearce -> Bryn in descending order of blame.

As for the second goal - it is Pearce who loses Nolan in the first instance. So you're talking a load of absolute mince in all honesty .

[PEARCEY]

Having now watched the highlights I think Gunnarsson was at least partially at fault for virtually all their goals / clear chances.

Goal one way to weak and falls over letting Ameobi flick the ball on. Don't think Pearce does anything wrong, he's just not quite quick enough to get a block in. Perhaps Fed could have done better to save across him.

Sorry Ian old son, but can't agree. Having seen it again myself there is a case for a foul against Gunnarsson, Ameobi has his arm across him. The ball drops for Nolan back to goal and he still manages to totally rinse dear old flat-footed Pearcey and then the goalkeeping from Federici is absolutely rankerous. In terms of fault for the goal, A Fed -> Pearce -> Bryn in descending order of blame.

As for the second goal - it is Pearce who loses Nolan in the first instance. So you're talking a load of absolute mince in all honesty .

Yep but for the second goal the back four had no protection from our midfield and Bertrand was caught in no mans land. Half the team were responsible for that second goal.

[Ryn]

I think that once again Pearce did a good job. Of proving that he is not our future.

[Ian Royal]

Everyone's got their opinions Floyd. I don't agree with yours, you don't agree with mine. I don't think there was any foul. I think the whole goal is prevented by Bryn not just crumbling to the ground.

Personally I think it's Bryn > Fed > Pearce

Don't agree on the second goal. Whoever's man he is in the first place the defence get drags around and Bryn should step up to Nolan trusting that Griffin will suck inside and pick up the man on th eback post. Not just leave Nolan free near post.

We could argue this for ever, it's totally subjective there is no definitive answer.

[Sun Tzu]

Every single goal that is ever scored could be shown to be someone's 'fault'.

It happens, I'm not sure what it tells you if you analyse every goal and think that by putting the finger on someone you canc onclude that person is a weak link.

Centre backs will be more 'at fault' than most players when a team concedes. it comes with the territory.

[Ian Royal]

You can expect your defenders to get the basics right and need to be undone by very good movement, or simply being beaten to the ball or have great shots.

Not strikers unmarked in the box, or falling over, being turned easily, or getting caught in no man's land.

[Maguire]

Having now watched the highlights I think Gunnarsson was at least partially at fault for virtually all their goals / clear chances.

Goal one way to weak and falls over letting Ameobi flick the ball on. Don't think Pearce does anything wrong, he's just not quite quick enough to get a block in. Perhaps Fed could have done better to save across him.

Sorry Ian old son, but can't agree. Having seen it again myself there is a case for a foul against Gunnarsson, Ameobi has his arm across him. The ball drops for Nolan back to goal and he still manages to totally rinse dear old flat-footed Pearcey and then the goalkeeping from Federici is absolutely rankerous. In terms of fault for the goal, A Fed -> Pearce -> Bryn in descending order of blame.

As for the second goal - it is Pearce who loses Nolan in the first instance. So you're talking a load of absolute mince in all honesty .

Completely agree floyd and no surprise that the emptiest vessel (Ian Royal) once again makes the most noise.

[brendywendy]

I think that once again Pearce did a good job. Of proving that he is not our future.