NO LONGER A RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by melonhead » 11 Jan 2012 15:37

FiNeRaIn Second part, it is thrown around a lot but that's the point. the same people using the same scenarios as if there is no in-between in the market. Its bankruptcy or being well run.


only when viewed through your negative brain-ive certainly never said anything of the sort

personally i think its more :
we cant afford to do anything else
and this is the best/most sensible way of regaining promotion, without "risking" financial peril.
because the consequences of that risk failing are just too horrific.
imo

youre allowed to disagree though

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by melonhead » 11 Jan 2012 15:37

Hoop Blah
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Hoop Blah If you don't expect them to do anything (and by anything I mean even get in squads and look like they're going to be able to play for the first team) why wold you sign them?

Realistically the likes of Sodje and Makin were signed to be immediate back up to the players in the first 11. The likes of Bozanic, Manset, Baseya, Valisilev and the two Williams were bought to develop into first team players. I can't imagine the idea was to bring them in, pay them for 3 years and then let them go without ever playing for the club.


i meant the majority of fans, not the owner/scouts/managers


When I've been talking about players meeting their expectations I've been talking about my perception of why the club purchased them, not mine or other fans expectations (although obviously mine will sway my perception of the clubs!).

The club must be expecting (or at least hoping) these gambles to progress into first team squad players or they'd just be wasting their time and money signing them.



i think expect may be slightly too strong a word- id certainly have no qualms about using the words hope strongly :lol:
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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Hoop Blah » 11 Jan 2012 15:38

melonhead now i get what youre saying- i also am not expecting this guy to blow us all away straight away, or possibly ever

would be nice though!


Which is basically what the majority of the posts supposedly 'writing him off' are saying.

I can't believe you're being so negative about a player who's not even pulled on the shirt yet!!!

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by melonhead » 11 Jan 2012 15:39

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melonhead now i get what youre saying- i also am not expecting this guy to blow us all away straight away, or possibly ever

would be nice though!


Which is basically what the majority of the posts supposedly 'writing him off' are saying.

I can't believe you're being so negative about a player who's not even pulled on the shirt yet!!!



ive not had a go at a single post that has written him off, however weakly, though

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Royal Lady » 11 Jan 2012 15:39

Is this the striker bloke from Ireland?

Can't be @rsed to scroll back - in a nutshell - age/what we paying for him/what's his goal scoring record like/do we NEED another unproven striker at this level? :roll:


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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by winchester_royal » 11 Jan 2012 15:41

Royal Lady Is this the striker bloke from Ireland?

Can't be @rsed to scroll back - in a nutshell - age/what we paying for him/what's his goal scoring record like/do we NEED another unproven striker at this level? :roll:


20/free transfer as at end of contract/decent/we need something different up front that's for sure

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Hoop Blah » 11 Jan 2012 15:43

Is he different?

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Simon's Church » 11 Jan 2012 15:46

Hoop Blah Is he different?

Doubt anyone on here knows to be honest. Although, he's apparently good in the air so he's definitely different to Church.

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by winchester_royal » 11 Jan 2012 15:46

Hoop Blah Is he different?


Haven't seen enough of him to judge.

But if he's quick then yes.

And I doubt we'd be bringing him in if he wasn't different, given we're not exactly lacking numbers.


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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Extended-Phenotype » 11 Jan 2012 16:31

FiNeRaIn First part of that is childish/idiotic comment so won't lower myself to that.



You aspire to be a child. Child is up. You would need to study for years to reach idiot status, and even then you’d keep taking time off with stress.


Melonhead and this is the best/most sensible way of regaining promotion, without "risking" financial peril.


But isn't that sort of the point being made? Why does an increase in investment equate to financial peril?

With a team so nearly there, I'm not sure where the gamble really is.

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by sandman » 11 Jan 2012 16:34

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 No footballer who has been bought in excess of 1-2m has ever played well.
 Every club which invests in players goes bankrupt.
 Investing in players has never earned a club success.


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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by FiNeRaIn » 11 Jan 2012 16:35

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You aspire to be a child. Child is up. You would need to study for years to reach idiot status, and even then you’d keep taking time off with stress.



zzzz you're try-hard.

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by melonhead » 11 Jan 2012 16:36

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FiNeRaIn First part of that is childish/idiotic comment so won't lower myself to that.



You aspire to be a child. Child is up. You would need to study for years to reach idiot status, and even then you’d keep taking time off with stress.


Melonhead and this is the best/most sensible way of regaining promotion, without "risking" financial peril.


But isn't that sort of the point being made? Why does an increase in investment equate to financial peril?

With a team so nearly there, I'm not sure where the gamble really is.



arent you?

we could pay out 4 million +wages today for jordan rhodes, and it wouldnt guarantee promotion partly due to other clubs in the division willing to spend even more
and then next year wed be 4 million + further in debt

where does this 4 million come from? i aint paying it

im happy doing it how we do it thanks.


you can think what you like though


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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Extended-Phenotype » 11 Jan 2012 17:15

melonhead we could pay out 4 million +wages today for jordan rhodes, and it wouldnt guarantee promotion


It wouldn’t guarantee failure either, would it?

partly due to other clubs in the division willing to spend even more


They already spend more, don't they? Why does our current competitiveness dip because we stick a few more quid in?

and then next year wed be 4 million + further in debt


OR, heavens forbid, we get promoted! Failing that we cover the loss with a player sale, steady the ship and have another bash when we are ready.

where does this 4 million come from? i aint paying it


Football clubs rely on you a lot for financing transfers, do they? :wink:
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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by rfc2001 » 11 Jan 2012 17:45

He's played in Europe he's automatically awesome

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Royal Lady » 11 Jan 2012 18:05

We have to trust McD's judgement on this - but if we were going to sign another striker, I was expecting someone older, with a proven track record in the championship and a play maker. We desperately need a striker in the mould of Cureton/Quinn/Senior/Kitson/Doyle - and we haven't got one. :cry:

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Simon's Church » 11 Jan 2012 18:14

How would you describe the Cureton/Quinn/Senior/Kitson/Doyle mould then? How do you know Sheppard doesn't fit it?

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Mr ReadingFC » 11 Jan 2012 18:15

he posted this on his twitter today
haha mouth is shut for today can open my mouth tomorrow!!
8 hours ago
and this on Monday
Exciting few days coming up........

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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by melonhead » 11 Jan 2012 18:18

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melonhead we could pay out 4 million +wages today for jordan rhodes, and it wouldnt guarantee promotion


It wouldn’t guarantee failure either, would it?

partly due to other clubs in the division willing to spend even more


They already spend more, don't they? Why does our current competitiveness dip because we stick a few more quid in?

and then next year wed be 4 million + further in debt


OR, heavens forbid, we get promoted! Failing that we cover the loss with a player sale, steady the ship and have another bash when we are ready.

where does this 4 million come from? i aint paying it


Football clubs rely on you a lot for financing transfers, do they? :wink:



but we dont have the 4 million. so all your "arguments" are superfluous
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Re: RUMOUR - Karl Sheppard

by Friday's Legacy » 11 Jan 2012 18:19

fantastic news. he's young and driven and i'd take that over a fading jason roberts any day.

A source told the Post: “If Reading really want to sign Karl then they will get him, it’s that simple. From a football point of view, Reading is the perfect club for him and he knows that.”

he's turned down watford, p'boro, cardiff and blackpool.

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