Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer window

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Snowball » 01 Feb 2013 18:33

2 world wars, 1 world cup
Out of the relation zone but firmly entrenched in the relegation fight.

Let's see if these cheap 300k signings can keep us out before we judge eh?



A few weeks ago we were six points from safety. Our chances have MASSIVELY improved compared to then

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by blythspartan » 01 Feb 2013 18:47

I love all the bollox, arguing and slating each other off on HNA. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion and at the end of the day it shows how much we all care about our club.

I hope that the same sh*t happens for many years to come.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by MmmMonsterMunch » 01 Feb 2013 18:51

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MmmMonsterMunch Agreed with that generally but I'm not falling for the Ince stuff!!


You genuinely think that RFC have orchestrated all the media stuff over the last week or so to make a few hundred fans who actually bother following all the rumours on twitter/HNA a little happier :?:



Exactly.





I wonder how many pound notes in a brown paper bag they had to give to AVB
so he'd go along with the Gylfi conspiracy?




I think we set a value on Ince and when we'd got to our limit, tried for Gylfi


Don't put words in my fcuking mouth please! I actually said further down the thread we'd obviously tried to do something else last night.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by MmmMonsterMunch » 01 Feb 2013 18:51

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No - where did I say that?? I'm sure they have tried to do something but I think the Ince thing was a cheeky punt blown out of proportion. As I just said, the 'record' deal is probably someone else.


You seemed to be implying that Nicky's statement tonight was a work of propaganda rather than honesty, apologies if I misunderstood.


Not at all - I just think they purposely tried to whip the fans into a frenzy over the Ince deal by making it public that we'd made a bid (even if the bid was derisory & Blackpool had told us to fcuk off). BM also talked about him on SSN which isn't the way we do things normally. I do believe they did that to 'prove' to the fans they have intent to stay up or whatever else you'd call it.

I do believe they've tried to do something else tonight - I don't see why they'd lie. Mind you a Reading 'record' would only be £2.51m. :wink:

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Bandini » 01 Feb 2013 19:30

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I've always said


This is not, by itself, a good thing.


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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Rex » 01 Feb 2013 19:32

blythspartan I love all the bollox, arguing and slating each other off on HNA. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion and at the end of the day it shows how much we all care about our club.

I hope that the same sh*t happens for many years to come.

I am heartened by this post.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Extended-Phenotype » 01 Feb 2013 19:39

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This is not, by itself, a good thing.


Don't read it by itself then.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by MmmMonsterMunch » 01 Feb 2013 19:39

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blythspartan I love all the bollox, arguing and slating each other off on HNA. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion and at the end of the day it shows how much we all care about our club.

I hope that the same sh*t happens for many years to come.

I am heartened by this post.


The club has surely proven beyond doubt that they know what they're doing though haven't they? Releasing info to appease the fans is just bollox & they shouldn't bother - they should just keep it to themselves until its a done deal.

People frothing at the mouth of the lack of signings = people frothing at the mouth of the lack of expensive signings IMO.

I'll leave it on that note!

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by andrew1957 » 01 Feb 2013 19:42

Overall it was good transfer window for RFC but not a great one and I suspect Brian would agree. I am sure he really wanted one more player (Siggy or Ince) but it just was not meant to be.


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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Bandini » 01 Feb 2013 19:47

*scrolls through only reading posts from sensible posters*

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Rex » 01 Feb 2013 19:51

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blythspartan I love all the bollox, arguing and slating each other off on HNA. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion and at the end of the day it shows how much we all care about our club.

I hope that the same sh*t happens for many years to come.

I am heartened by this post.


The club has surely proven beyond doubt that they know what they're doing though haven't they? Releasing info to appease the fans is just bollox & they shouldn't bother - they should just keep it to themselves until its a done deal.

People frothing at the mouth of the lack of signings = people frothing at the mouth of the lack of expensive signings IMO.

I'll leave it on that note!

This window seemed a little too transparent with information and intent. Then we get informed that deals never went through because of Varying reasons and some supporters are still not happy. Keep it all behind closed doors and remain silent. When a deal is completed then hold a press conference if its warranted.
It would take the thunder out of the transfer window though.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by MmmMonsterMunch » 01 Feb 2013 19:55

I agree - Reading were far too vocal in this window.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Cypry » 01 Feb 2013 19:56

As I've said elsewhere I do wonder if the "transparency" on the Ince deal was aimed at Spurs as much as anyone to try to push them into a deal on Gylfi....

Quite a few people commented how out of character it was for us to be that open......I wondered there was a good reason for it?


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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by MmmMonsterMunch » 01 Feb 2013 20:01

Cypry As I've said elsewhere I do wonder if the "transparency" on the Ince deal was aimed at Spurs as much as anyone to try to push them into a deal on Gylfi....

Quite a few people commented how out of character it was for us to be that open......I wondered there was a good reason for it?


Possibly - I do think it smacked a bit of desperation though & if it was another manager doing it we'd be having a go at him.

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by Victor Meldrew » 01 Feb 2013 20:28

Royal Rother Interesting point mentioned on the radio yesterday...

In American football, when clubs are looking at potential players they will spend huge amounts of money with private investigators looking into their background, interviewing family, friends, college staff, coaches etc. before they make a decision because they recognise the importance of the personality and how it fits in with the team as a whole.

Over here, despite the huge sums being splashed around clubs will spend millions on a player on the basis of a fcuking YouTube clip or a few games seen on TV.

It has been said on many occasions by Coppell and McDermott how RFC will only sign who we consider the right sort of character, and we do our research to establish exactly that - another example other clubs would do well to follow.

We don't bid for players without doing our research on them. So we can't just say on TDD, oh well, look like we're not going to get Ince, let's make a bid for another similar player. We don't operate like that. That game's for suckers and gamblers who are happy to be held over a barrel whilst being royally screwed for a player they don't even know properly!

Laughable really when you think it through.


For a generally sensible bloke(that's enough of the compliments) you are a bit naiive here.
I remember the late,great Bill Shankly saying 50 years ago that anybody could watch a player and weigh up whether they could play or not but the important bit is to find out as much as you can about the individual and his character before trying to sign him.
The majority of clubs do this and I would suggest that it is the very few that don't-the naiivety comes in by you thinking that only Coppell and Brian do this.

It is probably one of the reasons why your mate Wenger finds it difficult to sign players-he looks too deeply and for too long into these aspects and by the time he has made up his mind it is too late.
I would hope that with Akpan Brian would have spoken at length to Coppell and in the case of Blackman to his old mate and ours,Dave Kitson.

BTW would you and melonhead have internally combusted if Reading had signed both Ince and Gylfi at a cost of £18 million and become the biggest spenders in this window? :wink:
Reckless throwing money at our problem or what?

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Royal Rother » 01 Feb 2013 21:38

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Royal Rother Interesting point mentioned on the radio yesterday...

In American football, when clubs are looking at potential players they will spend huge amounts of money with private investigators looking into their background, interviewing family, friends, college staff, coaches etc. before they make a decision because they recognise the importance of the personality and how it fits in with the team as a whole.

Over here, despite the huge sums being splashed around clubs will spend millions on a player on the basis of a fcuking YouTube clip or a few games seen on TV.

It has been said on many occasions by Coppell and McDermott how RFC will only sign who we consider the right sort of character, and we do our research to establish exactly that - another example other clubs would do well to follow.

We don't bid for players without doing our research on them. So we can't just say on TDD, oh well, look like we're not going to get Ince, let's make a bid for another similar player. We don't operate like that. That game's for suckers and gamblers who are happy to be held over a barrel whilst being royally screwed for a player they don't even know properly!

Laughable really when you think it through.

Mostly agree, but it's equally laughable to only investigate one player at a time for each position you're looking at. The sensible position is to identify a host of possibilities and then winnow them down to the final favourite as you look into them in more detail, so if you can't get your favourite, you already know who you're second and third choice will be.


You think that's what Reading FC does? On what basis?

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Royal Rother » 01 Feb 2013 21:58

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Royal Rother Interesting point mentioned on the radio yesterday...

In American football, when clubs are looking at potential players they will spend huge amounts of money with private investigators looking into their background, interviewing family, friends, college staff, coaches etc. before they make a decision because they recognise the importance of the personality and how it fits in with the team as a whole.

Over here, despite the huge sums being splashed around clubs will spend millions on a player on the basis of a fcuking YouTube clip or a few games seen on TV.

It has been said on many occasions by Coppell and McDermott how RFC will only sign who we consider the right sort of character, and we do our research to establish exactly that - another example other clubs would do well to follow.

We don't bid for players without doing our research on them. So we can't just say on TDD, oh well, look like we're not going to get Ince, let's make a bid for another similar player. We don't operate like that. That game's for suckers and gamblers who are happy to be held over a barrel whilst being royally screwed for a player they don't even know properly!

Laughable really when you think it through.


For a generally sensible bloke(that's enough of the compliments) you are a bit naiive here.
I remember the late,great Bill Shankly saying 50 years ago that anybody could watch a player and weigh up whether they could play or not but the important bit is to find out as much as you can about the individual and his character before trying to sign him.
The majority of clubs do this and I would suggest that it is the very few that don't-the naiivety comes in by you thinking that only Coppell and Brian do this.

It is probably one of the reasons why your mate Wenger finds it difficult to sign players-he looks too deeply and for too long into these aspects and by the time he has made up his mind it is too late.
I would hope that with Akpan Brian would have spoken at length to Coppell and in the case of Blackman to his old mate and ours,Dave Kitson.


Did you really think that "another example other clubs would do well to follow" means I think we are the ONLY club who do it? That's pretty funny really.

I thought at the time about quoting the stories told about Fergie going round to visit Ryan Gigg's family when he was being signed up but thought such a comparison would take it a bit far...

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by redscot » 01 Feb 2013 23:04

Bandini *scrolls through only reading posts from sensible posters*

*finishes in record time*


But who are they? There cannot be that many of them... If you name them, maybe they could post in separate threads were others are excluded. It would be a dream to read threads without the dribble that one has to work ones way through to get to the facts...

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Big Ern » 02 Feb 2013 14:04

Royal Rother Interesting point mentioned on the radio yesterday...

In American football, when clubs are looking at potential players they will spend huge amounts of money with private investigators looking into their background, interviewing family, friends, college staff, coaches etc. before they make a decision because they recognise the importance of the personality and how it fits in with the team as a whole.


If we interviewed his "Big Time Charlie' dad, possible explains why we didn't push the boat out for Ince.

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Re: Well done McDermott and Hammond - Positive transfer wind

by Ian Royal » 02 Feb 2013 14:49

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Royal Rother Interesting point mentioned on the radio yesterday...

In American football, when clubs are looking at potential players they will spend huge amounts of money with private investigators looking into their background, interviewing family, friends, college staff, coaches etc. before they make a decision because they recognise the importance of the personality and how it fits in with the team as a whole.

Over here, despite the huge sums being splashed around clubs will spend millions on a player on the basis of a fcuking YouTube clip or a few games seen on TV.

It has been said on many occasions by Coppell and McDermott how RFC will only sign who we consider the right sort of character, and we do our research to establish exactly that - another example other clubs would do well to follow.

We don't bid for players without doing our research on them. So we can't just say on TDD, oh well, look like we're not going to get Ince, let's make a bid for another similar player. We don't operate like that. That game's for suckers and gamblers who are happy to be held over a barrel whilst being royally screwed for a player they don't even know properly!

Laughable really when you think it through.

Mostly agree, but it's equally laughable to only investigate one player at a time for each position you're looking at. The sensible position is to identify a host of possibilities and then winnow them down to the final favourite as you look into them in more detail, so if you can't get your favourite, you already know who you're second and third choice will be.


You think that's what Reading FC does? On what basis?

No I don't. Because we're not stupid. But you're argument was that we can't switch to a different target on transfer deadline day because we do lots of research on the players we want first. Well, if we do our job properly and have several players in mind at once, we most certainly can. As demonstrated by us giving up on Ince and going for Sigurdsson - I can't imagine we intended to spend £18m and bring them both in.

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