FAO Federici

[Extended-Phenotype]

A keeper error is only an error if the ball ends up in the net but a fluffed shot would not have led to a goal in most cases. Even if Pog had hit the ball cleanly it could still have missed, or been saved.
The comparison is not a good one IMHO

Not that fussed arguing over the obvious m8 but if a striker fails to score when he should have, it can be as costly as a keeper not making a save he should have.

All Im saying is that its a team game, everyone has a job to do and mistakes are made all over the pitch. No point knocking a keeper when your front line aren't sticking their chances away, imo.

[Winston Smith]

Hearing word that all the players will warm up tomorrow night wearing t shirts with 'Federici' on the back

[jd82]

Hearing word that all the players will warm up tomorrow night wearing t shirts with 'Federici' on the back

- the only way that wouldn't be massively embarrassing is if Feds happens to die in the next 24 hours

[genome]

#pray4feds

[floyd__streete]

I won't be attending but wouldn't the best tribute be the usual polite applause as his name is read out and then just let him get on with concentrating on his job for 90 minutes?

if he ends up making another error with all this fuss and focus on him.

[genome]

I do agree with that. All this support may just end up making him feel under pressure not to fcuk up again.

[Forbury Lion]

Does Federici have a parking space?

I understand Sweet Caroline has been ditched tomorrow in favour of the Home and Away theme tune.

[Maguire]

I won't be attending but wouldn't the best tribute be the usual polite applause as his name is read out and then just let him get on with concentrating on his job for 90 minutes?

if he ends up making another error with all this fuss and focus on him.

Exactly. I'd LOL if he lets in another clanger.

[UpThePrem]

Wouldn't surprise me if Andersen gets a run out with Feds on the bench on Weds. Depends how he has reacted in training over the last two days I guess.

[Silver Fox]

I'll be absolutely stunned if Feds doesn't play tomorrow. No matter what the reason far too many chumps will see it as some sort of weakness

Having said that, once safety is assured after tomorrow I expect Andersen to get at least one of the last 3 games

[Royalclapper]

Yep, ripple of applause is enough. The last thing he needs is a load of over-fussing mothers trying to console him.

Good job we're not playing Leeds, imagine 3000 of their rough arse crew ripping into him when he was up their end. Brummies are a bit drier humoured so he should get through it.

[UpThePrem]

Yep, ripple of applause is enough. The last thing he needs is a load of over-fussing mothers trying to console him.

Good job we're not playing Leeds, imagine 3000 of their rough arse crew ripping into him when he was up their end. Brummies are a bit drier humoured so he should get through it.

He may get some of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC4KfGIWLgc#t=23

[Nameless]

A keeper error is only an error if the ball ends up in the net but a fluffed shot would not have led to a goal in most cases. Even if Pog had hit the ball cleanly it could still have missed, or been saved.
The comparison is not a good one IMHO

Not that fussed arguing over the obvious m8 but if a striker fails to score when he should have, it can be as costly as a keeper not making a save he should have.

All Im saying is that its a team game, everyone has a job to do and mistakes are made all over the pitch. No point knocking a keeper when your front line aren't sticking their chances away, imo.

No arguments with the fact that it's a team game, the club and players have made that point repeatedly.
And agree that there's no point arguing over your woefully wrong comparison !! We didn't miss any sitters on Saturday.

[Extended-Phenotype]

Well, maybe I need to watch it again. Thought at the time Pog should have buried it (or passed it) when two on one but let the ball get stuck under his feet for a bit of a duff trickle. I thought there were other moments we should have done better with the shot (Williams?) But if I'm being harsh then no worries. It was a harmless point in defence of keepers who I think get a bit of a hard time compared to the rest of the team, wasn't expecting beef tbh.

EDIT: In an interview with Pog, he apparently held his hands up regarding his missed chances on Saturday, so maybe I'm not completely off the mark

[From Despair To Where?]

It's a rubbish comparison because scoring a goal is the hardest thing in football (great cliché of course) whereas stopping the ball with the use of your whole body and hands for a shot like Federici's howler at the weekend is pretty basic.

Missing a tap in from 2 yards under no pressure would be a better comparison if you wanted to a comparison for an outfield player.

You mean something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q33ypZmkMFw

[Big Foot]

Is it too late for Federici to get called up for the Aussies Ashes squad?

Here's hoping not

[Hoop Blah]

Well, maybe I need to watch it again. Thought at the time Pog should have buried it (or passed it) when two on one but let the ball get stuck under his feet for a bit of a duff trickle. I thought there were other moments we should have done better with the shot (Williams?) But if I'm being harsh then no worries. It was a harmless point in defence of keepers who I think get a bit of a hard time compared to the rest of the team, wasn't expecting beef tbh.

EDIT: In an interview with Pog, he apparently held his hands up regarding his missed chances on Saturday, so maybe I'm not completely off the mark

Not scoring from the chances (perhaps only half chances really) that we created on Saturday is in now way comparable with the extent of the howler Federici made.

Pogrebnyak really could and probably should've done better with the opportunities he had, and I'm sure he expects better of himself, but they weren't glaring misses you'd expect him (or a decent forward) to take 9 times out of 10. I'd expect Federici to save that effort 99 times out of a 100 let alone 9 times out of 10.

[Extended-Phenotype]

If strikers aren't scoring goals they perhaps should, they deserve as much stick as keepers not saving goals they perhaps should. I appreciate Feds miss was worse than any of Pogs chances but the whole world seems to have recognised that Feds kept us in the game 'taking his chances' by pulling off some fine saves, while general consensus from the same world is that we would have nicked that game if our strikers took theirs.

Its hardly controversial to suggest that a game isn't won or lost solely by one man or in one area of the pitch - you need to score goals as much as keep them out to win games, last time I checked.

[Hoop Blah]

But you're making out that Pogrebnyak's misses are as blatant as Federici's, that's all I'm commenting on.

As for Federici keeping us in the game, I'd argue that he made saves he would probably expect to make. A couple of very good saves yes, but not quite the worldies I keep hearing about just because he cocked up for the winner and the hero to villain story makes for good copy.

There hasn't been much comment on the shot from distance from Ramsey that Federici failed to hold and it looped over the bar. If that had gone in I'd say it would've been chalked up as another Federici mistake on a shot from long range.

[GH Royal]

But you're making out that Pogrebnyak's misses are as blatant as Federici's, that's all I'm commenting on.

As for Federici keeping us in the game, I'd argue that he made saves he would probably expect to make. A couple of very good saves yes, but not quite the worldies I keep hearing about just because he cocked up for the winner and the hero to villain story makes for good copy.

There hasn't been much comment on the shot from distance from Ramsey that Federici failed to hold and it looped over the bar. If that had gone in I'd say it would've been chalked up as another Federici mistake on a shot from long range.

It was the save from the (Gabriel?) header that everyone commented on, from where I was stood it looked class, haven't seen a replay.