I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by BR2 » 31 Mar 2008 13:10

royalroo Playing at this level Hunt's "airy" in missing a golden scoring opportunity is the equivalent of Tiger Woods doing an 'airy". For the amount he gets paid, that miss was bread and butter stuff. Maybe he could be forgiven if it was a one off but i travelled 12000 miles to watch the team for the first time live (as opposed to live on Sky) in 33 years to see Hunt do exactly the same thing against Postsmouth on New Years Day. Sorry Mr Hunt but you ain't good enough for the Premier League and to those who dissagree, ask yourself this, if you were running the club, paying him high wages, desperate for 3 points and we do get relegated by say one point, would you have him in our team?? Answer = No Brainer


It takes somebody who lives on the other side of the world to point out what so many of our blind(apologies to the real blind)somehow do not see.
The fact that people are at odds over who is the better between Hunt and Oster only goes to show that we have two of the worst wide players at this level.
One other point-it is a fallacy that as one poster puts it "Hunt puts his body on the line....".
Watch him a bit closer next time-he jumps out of the way and although not as bad as Oster in that area he is also a bottler as is Convey and I suspect Kebe so ALL of our wide players are a bit timid and regrettably I include the great Mr Little but he is excused because he is.........just great.

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Re: I am officially bored with Stephen Hunt

by CMRoyal » 31 Mar 2008 13:15

Hunt's a paradox wrapped up in a dichotomy. He was the man with the energy, positivity and pace to get level with Longy and into a great goalscoring opportunity so late in the game, but out of all our attacking players he was the most likely to do what he did, ie thrash at thin air. Why couldn't it have been Harper up there? (Rhetorical question. I know there was little chance of that when we were a player down).

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Gordons Cumming » 31 Mar 2008 13:18

brendywendy
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People who say that really no nothing about football. They think they do, but they don't.



then explain it to us oh wise one


The previous posters have answered it for me. :wink:

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Tommy Youlden's Ears » 31 Mar 2008 13:27

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royalroo Playing at this level Hunt's "airy" in missing a golden scoring opportunity is the equivalent of Tiger Woods doing an 'airy". For the amount he gets paid, that miss was bread and butter stuff. Maybe he could be forgiven if it was a one off but i travelled 12000 miles to watch the team for the first time live (as opposed to live on Sky) in 33 years to see Hunt do exactly the same thing against Postsmouth on New Years Day. Sorry Mr Hunt but you ain't good enough for the Premier League and to those who dissagree, ask yourself this, if you were running the club, paying him high wages, desperate for 3 points and we do get relegated by say one point, would you have him in our team?? Answer = No Brainer


It takes somebody who lives on the other side of the world to point out what so many of our blind(apologies to the real blind)somehow do not see.
The fact that people are at odds over who is the better between Hunt and Oster only goes to show that we have two of the worst wide players at this level.
One other point-it is a fallacy that as one poster puts it "Hunt puts his body on the line....".
Watch him a bit closer next time-he jumps out of the way and although not as bad as Oster in that area he is also a bottler as is Convey and I suspect Kebe so ALL of our wide players are a bit timid and regrettably I include the great Mr Little but he is excused because he is.........just great.


Oster actively avoids contact. Hunt doesn't. The tackle with Dunn in the Citeh game (which took Dunne out of the game, and probably turned the match) was all about two blokes who weren't going to quit. It was proper football.

Oster v Hunt? Take the best bits of each player and you'd have a bloody good winger. And one we couldn't afford. Of course we don't have the best pair of wingers in the league. We ain't got the cash. Let's just enjoy what we have and see if Coppell can make em better. It's what we do.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Fezza » 31 Mar 2008 13:30

For me it's quite simple - Hunt is better than Convey, will always give 100% and does more than enough to justify his place in the team. Should we have taken the £6 million Scumderland offered, maybe, but who do you replace him with?

Bobby is to lighweight and injury prone, also still trading off one good season two years ago.
Robson-Kanu (Sp?) may prove excellent in the future but isn't there yet.

Without Hunt we are a weaker team.


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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by BR2 » 31 Mar 2008 13:46

Fezza For me it's quite simple - Hunt is better than Convey, will always give 100% and does more than enough to justify his place in the team. Should we have taken the £6 million Scumderland offered, maybe, but who do you replace him with?

Bobby is to lighweight and injury prone, also still trading off one good season two years ago.
Robson-Kanu (Sp?) may prove excellent in the future but isn't there yet.

Without Hunt we are a weaker team.


And a team that might end up 4th or 5th from bottom so a number of positions need looking at and in particular the wide areas.
Without any supply from out wide both Kitson and Doyle have been starved of chances and these are 2 players that we want to keep if we wish to stay at this level.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Alan Partridge » 31 Mar 2008 13:49

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Fezza For me it's quite simple - Hunt is better than Convey, will always give 100% and does more than enough to justify his place in the team. Should we have taken the £6 million Scumderland offered, maybe, but who do you replace him with?

Bobby is to lighweight and injury prone, also still trading off one good season two years ago.
Robson-Kanu (Sp?) may prove excellent in the future but isn't there yet.

Without Hunt we are a weaker team.


And a team that might end up 4th or 5th from bottom so a number of positions need looking at and in particular the wide areas.
Without any supply from out wide both Kitson and Doyle have been starved of chances and these are 2 players that we want to keep if we wish to stay at this level.


Exactly. Doyle, Kitson and Lita have been good/great goalscorers for Reading over the last 3 years. Reading's style since Coppell has taken over was to create from the flanks, via the two wingers and full backs (in particular Shorey) putting good crosses in for the forwards to feed off. For the majority of this season Hunt and Oster have been the two wingers. Doyle hasn't scored for 16/17 games? Lita has only 1 in the cup, Only Kitson has done anything in front of goal. In most cases it's been from a bit of individual brilliance from him, or picking up scraps in and around the box.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Man Friday » 31 Mar 2008 13:58

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Oster's excellent moments are few and far between and outweighed by the very bad moments.


It is hard to enter a debate with someone so obviously blinkered as you. Try doing a lttle 'tick sheet' of his good and bad moments and I am totally convinced that you'll find that the good heavily outweighs the poor.

Likewise.

Or to make it easier let's look at an external , impartial assessment. Last week, The Times gave Oster a "3", the lowest score for a Reading player. This week, The Times gave Oster a "5", the joint lowest score, with Hunt being awarded a "6".

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Re: I am officially bored with Stephen Hunt

by Stranded » 31 Mar 2008 14:33

CMRoyal Hunt's a paradox wrapped up in a dichotomy. He was the man with the energy, positivity and pace to get level with Longy and into a great goalscoring opportunity so late in the game, but out of all our attacking players he was the most likely to do what he did, ie thrash at thin air. Why couldn't it have been Harper up there? (Rhetorical question. I know there was little chance of that when we were a player down).


Harper was actually only a couple of yards behind Hunt when Long crossed as it happened. Though given his attempt at Chelsea in a similar position I doubt he'd have done much better!!


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Re: I am officially bored with Stephen Hunt

by CMRoyal » 31 Mar 2008 14:42

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CMRoyal Hunt's a paradox wrapped up in a dichotomy. He was the man with the energy, positivity and pace to get level with Longy and into a great goalscoring opportunity so late in the game, but out of all our attacking players he was the most likely to do what he did, ie thrash at thin air. Why couldn't it have been Harper up there? (Rhetorical question. I know there was little chance of that when we were a player down).


Harper was actually only a couple of yards behind Hunt when Long crossed as it happened. Though given his attempt at Chelsea in a similar position I doubt he'd have done much better!!


Well spotted, Stranded, I hadn't realised that. I had Boro and Newcastle in mind when I mentioned him, but yes you're right, he's not so good on the volley, is he?

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by Royal With Cheese » 31 Mar 2008 14:52

There are people on this board who would slag off Ronaldo if he signed for us and had a bad game.

I have no problems with constructive critcism but symptomatic witch huting that goes on in Hobnob does Reading fans (if that's what you actually are) no credit.

As for Hunt. We'd be well and truly in the shit without him this season. Anyone who feels otherwise should get glasses and some perspective.

We're not Arsenal or Man United - we're never going to be. If we stay up this season I personally feel this will be Coppell's greatest achievement.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by The Surgeon of Crowthorne » 31 Mar 2008 16:48

I doubt very much that SSC or anyone at the club think that we need a new left winger, so those expecting someone new to come in on the left in the summer are going to be disappointed. Unless, that is, someone comes in with a ridiculous offer or they decide that cover - & cover only - is needed for Hunt if Convey is sold.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by readingbedding » 31 Mar 2008 17:00

I'm not bored of any of our players.
What a stupid thing to say.


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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by RTFC Drummer » 31 Mar 2008 17:11

readingbedding I'm not bored of any of our players.
What a stupid thing to say.


totally agree with you there mate, you need to get behind your team even if you don't like individual players ect.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by zummerset » 31 Mar 2008 17:21

Stephen Hunt uses his great heart and energy to provide so many options going forward and tireless harrassing in defence - thats why I love him. That said witchhunts and character assasination are an entertaining feature of HNA!

If I can divert a little, the energy and pace of SH's game and the premiership are in such contrast with the 1990's 'continental' game imposed by that huge mistake Capello at national level. How long before the search for an English successor - arise Copello?

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by brendywendy » 31 Mar 2008 18:16

i for one aint saying we need to get rid of hunty, or that hes rubbish

just that hes been off recently, one run and hitting the bar aside
that said his energy and workrate makes up for the games he has where he isnt up to standard

i believe convey would have slotted one of hunts chances away at least
though he may not have got there in the 1st place.

which sums them both up pretty well

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by PEARCEY » 31 Mar 2008 18:21

I dont know why some of you get so worked up about Hunty getting a bit of criticism. Most of us have appreciated all of his efforts and at times no little skill, ie Goodison Park last season, Sunderland this season but there have been games when he has been poor. It does not mean that those of us that dare mention that are traiterous...just pointing out he was below par.
I agree with Stranded's comments. It seems its ok to vilify Oster but if anything is said about Hunt heaven help.
I would also point out that when Rosenior pushed forward Oster dropped back and covered for him not that many on here will give him credit for that.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by West Stand Man » 31 Mar 2008 18:22

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Oster's excellent moments are few and far between and outweighed by the very bad moments.


It is hard to enter a debate with someone so obviously blinkered as you. Try doing a lttle 'tick sheet' of his good and bad moments and I am totally convinced that you'll find that the good heavily outweighs the poor.

Likewise.

Or to make it easier let's look at an external , impartial assessment. Last week, The Times gave Oster a "3", the lowest score for a Reading player. This week, The Times gave Oster a "5", the joint lowest score, with Hunt being awarded a "6".


Yet Oster consistently gets better marks than many others in the team (if you look across the whole gamut of sports reporters). If you are going to introduce evidence to support your case then at least make it count. Check out the player ratings in all the papers for the Blackburn game and I think you'll find that the spread is large, and that Oster was not the worst (in one paper he gets 6 versus Hunt's 3!).

In case you suspect otherwise, I am a big fan of Hunt - which you would know if you had read other threads. I am not necesssarily a big fan of Oster's, but I will not knock him unjustifiably, which is what you and several others are doing. He is a good quality pro footballer - not some drain on the club's resources as you seem to think.

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by PEARCEY » 31 Mar 2008 18:27

Well said West Stand Man

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Re: I am officially bored of Stephen Hunt

by andrew1957 » 31 Mar 2008 18:34

I really like Hunty but I do wonder if we were offered £6M again by Sunderland at the end of the season if we should take it and look elsewhere.

Hunt gives us energy and drive but the end product is variable and he was truly awful on Saturday (Oster was indeed much better). If I were SC I may even be tempted to rest Hunty and give Convey a chance next Saturday. We have to find out if he (Convey) is up to the PL by the end of the season.

Hunty is the ideal player for a relegation fight BUT I would like us to be aiming higher than that next year. Selling him and buying an equivalent priced replacement would be a risk but may may be one worth taking.

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