QPR - Back from watching on TV

[Tilehurst End]

Please ensure Ian Harte is shown the highlights of the Stoke/Sunderland game to see where a 'dead ball specialist' is supposed to deliver the ball.

Pays not to hit the first defender.

[Elm Park Old Boy]

I know many will disagree, but our lack of pace and creativity was a disappointment. Time for Cummings to be given a run, and urged to overlap. And frankly Howard would have been worth using in that game. At least he wouldn't have just hoofed it upfield for Long to get clattered again, or Church to run away from it.

[Handsome Man]

I watched some of the TV yesterday:
Their man would have got a red card from 95% of refs - it was a bad challenge
Mills could easily have got a red card as well, but mosts refs would have gone for yellow
Long missed an open goal

[Snowball]

I know many will disagree, but our lack of pace and creativity was a disappointment. Time for Cummings to be given a run, and urged to overlap. And frankly Howard would have been worth using in that game. At least he wouldn't have just hoofed it upfield for Long to get clattered again, or Church to run away from it.

ouch!

[Snowball]

Not ONE person has said Harte is quick.

Everyone (including himself) acknowledges he is slow.

I keep expecting a game where a winger runs riot over him.

It still hasn't happened. He mostly compensates for his lack of speed and we have let in just 30 goals in 28 league games (20 goals in 24 plus the 10 in 4 blip)

We have a pretty tight defence.

Without our most in form centre-back and our best central midfielder we limited the clear best team in the division to ONE shot on goal in 94 minutes.

So Harte was done for speed? Mills was done for speed. So would have almost every player in our team if the pass and run is right, just like Long kept out-stripping their back four. Certainly Griffin, Mills, Pearce, Ingi could not legally stop Routledge in full flight.

That's why he's a premiership player on good wages.

If Ian Harte playes for the rest of the season, he will get caught a few more times, yes. And, unless we collapse we will end up, over the season having let in 46 goals or less (note I say the defence will improve)... if that is the case, then Harte will have done his job.

Incidentally, while he has played we've conceded 23 goals in 24 games, the fourth best defence after QPR, Forest, Swansea.

Are you really saying that the back five can't defend?

[loyalroyal4life]

Really disappointed, but credit to QPR they did what they had to do and will win the league.

Guess 3 points at Norwich now is a must

[ZacNaloen]

That's not the best demonstration, because Harte rarely tries to chase someone who has pace on him.

Knowing he has no chance, it's always the case that one of the central defenders comes across to cover in this instance while he will move into the middle of defense.

[ZacNaloen]

It's something that has worked very well since Harte has played at left back.


We got caught out there because we are so high up the pitch and narrow.

[Ian Royal]

It's something that has worked very well since Harte has played at left back.


We got caught out there because we are so high up the pitch and narrow.

'greed. Don't think it helped that Ivar was stepping up at the same time, which meant Mills had to come across from the other side. We were well and truely done up like a kipper with that one. Also partly because we got caught out in midfield.

Ideal is completely failing to take notice of the fact that regardless of pace Harte was caught flat-footed and by the pass and run (as was most of the team) and so was always going to be outpaced by Routledge who was already in full flow in the right direction rather than if anything moving the wrong way.

[floyd__streete]

Just seen the goal again. Whilst his colleagues get caught square with a through ball, Mills utterly fails to get even remotely close to stopping Routledge. Useless c*nt.

[Ian Royal]

Just seen the goal again. Whilst his colleagues get caught square with a through ball, Mills utterly fails to get even remotely close to stopping Routledge. Useless c*nt.

10 minutes left - take a red for the team to get the draw? Assuming the freekick isn't scored and we can hold out better. Routledge had quite a lot to do there and only just squeezed it in. Maybe Mills could have tried to be his usual cynical self and give him a kick or a nudge at the right time.

[prostak]

Ideal - please post one of those Netto Tactics Truck diagrams for every point you make in future.

[sandman]

Just seen the goal again. Whilst his colleagues get caught square with a through ball, Mills utterly fails to get even remotely close to stopping Routledge. Useless c*nt.

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Ian Harte hasn't put in a decent performance all season.

[Royal Lady]

Well that's not strictly true is it?

[LoyalRoyalFan]

Well that's not strictly true is it?

Most of our bad performances and poor goals conceded have originated from Ian Harte.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

Whoever said on here (can't remember) that there hasn't been a game yet where Harte has been skinned by a winger is a bit deluded.

Swansea at home immediately springs to mind. Dyer totally rinsed him all game. I'm definitely more of the mind set where he costs more points than he earns & I'd like someone else to get a go there. Don't agree with him monopolising every set piece either.

Lets not forget the clanger against Hull either - 2 pts thrown away when they hadn't been in the game at all.

[Snowball]

Well that's not strictly true is it?

Most of our bad performances and poor goals conceded have originated from Ian Harte.

Obviously a wind-up.

Try looking at each goal, one-by-one, carefully and assign responsibility.

Mills, Zurab, Howard, Federici and Harte have all screwed up.

[MmmMonsterMunch]

I'd also like to add that Griff was crying out for the ball on numerous occasions on Fri night & was ready to make the charge into the box yet every fcuking time we played it through the middle.

Both times Griff actually was given the ball it amounted to a decent attack. So frustrating.

[Snowball]

Ian Harte hasn't put in a decent performance all season.

If that REALLY was the case, don't you think McDermott would have tried Stretch there,
or taken another look at Williams, or played Cummings there and gone out and got someone?

Your remark is a totally ignorant one.

Harte is a long way from a perfect full-back, but we have let in just 24 goals in the 26 games he has played in = .92 goals per game

And when he doesn't play?

We let in 8 goals in six games before he joined, and one in one for the game against Bristol when he did not play. 9 goals conceded in 7 games = 1.29 a game

But heck, let's not let FACTS get in the way of a good wind up